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02-12-2013, 05:03 PM
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2013/14 leafs cap

13 games into the season, rfa's and ufa's we have to sign in the summer, how much? or who gets traded? or not signed? 13 players signed. cap space 20 mil, komi buyout compliance

RFA
kadri - 2mil per

franson - 1.8mil. per
komorov- 2 mil. per
gunnersson- traded
fraser- 1.2 mil per
holzer- 1.2 mil per
mclaren- 800 per

UFA
bozak - 3.8 mil per
macarther- gone
kostka- 1.2 mil per
orr- 1.2 mil per
steckle- gone

13. 6 mil added to cap , added 9 players, 2 more to add. 6.4 mil cap space

21 players signed for 2013/14 cap space 6.4 mil

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Gota think Rielly makes the team out of camp. Not sure we let Mac walk either.

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Gota think Rielly makes the team out of camp. Not sure we let Mac walk either.
who goes who stays?
gardiner comes in to, i think

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I wouldn't give Bozak 3.8M, more like 2.8M 1-2 year deal.

Komarov I would think would be more around 1.5M as well. Orr will only get 1M again.

I would think Komisarek will be amnestied... I like the guy, but 4.5M to sit in the press box isn't the best thing.

That in itself adds another 6.2M and leaves us with 12.6M in cap space.

Sign Perry/Getzlaf to a 6 Year, 8M per deal. (let's assume Perry)

4.6M remaining. We can deal Lupul as well for a pick/prospects, and deal Liles for a pick/prospect (or amnesty him). That adds another 9.125M for a grand total of 13.725M in cap space with the following line up.

JVR - Bozak - Kessel
Frattin - Kadri - Perry
Kulemin - Grabo - Komarov
Mclaren/Brown - McClement - Orr

Phaneuf - Holzer
Gardiner - Franson
Rielly - Fraser
Kostka

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With the cap space we have, it leaves us room to maybe let Bozak go and sign a guy like Derek Roy or Mike Riberio to be our #1C.

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I wouldn't give Bozak 3.8M, more like 2.8M 1-2 year deal.

Komarov I would think would be more around 1.5M as well. Orr will only get 1M again.

I would think Komisarek will be amnestied... I like the guy, but 4.5M to sit in the press box isn't the best thing.

That in itself adds another 6.2M and leaves us with 12.6M in cap space.

Sign Perry/Getzlaf to a 6 Year, 8M per deal. (let's assume Perry)

4.6M remaining. We can deal Lupul as well for a pick/prospects, and deal Liles for a pick/prospect (or amnesty him). That adds another 9.125M for a grand total of 13.725M in cap space with the following line up.

JVR - Bozak - Kessel
Frattin - Kadri - Perry
Kulemin - Grabo - Komarov
Mclaren/Brown - McClement - Orr

Phaneuf - Holzer
Gardiner - Franson
Rielly - Fraser
Kostka

Reimer
Scrivens

With the cap space we have, it leaves us room to maybe let Bozak go and sign a guy like Derek Roy or Mike Riberio to be our #1C.
so we sign lupul to trade him. we let bozak go , kessel follows.
maybe we move grabo, sign getzlaf or perry

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I wouldn't give Bozak 3.8M, more like 2.8M 1-2 year deal.

Komarov I would think would be more around 1.5M as well. Orr will only get 1M again.

I would think Komisarek will be amnestied... I like the guy, but 4.5M to sit in the press box isn't the best thing.

That in itself adds another 6.2M and leaves us with 12.6M in cap space.

Sign Perry/Getzlaf to a 6 Year, 8M per deal. (let's assume Perry)

4.6M remaining. We can deal Lupul as well for a pick/prospects, and deal Liles for a pick/prospect (or amnesty him). That adds another 9.125M for a grand total of 13.725M in cap space with the following line up.

JVR - Bozak - Kessel
Frattin - Kadri - Perry
Kulemin - Grabo - Komarov
Mclaren/Brown - McClement - Orr

Phaneuf - Holzer
Gardiner - Franson
Rielly - Fraser
Kostka

Reimer
Scrivens

With the cap space we have, it leaves us room to maybe let Bozak go and sign a guy like Derek Roy or Mike Riberio to be our #1C.
Bolded, this right here. And im not even joking. This has to happen.

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so we sign lupul to trade him. we let bozak go , kessel follows.
maybe we move grabo, sign getzlaf or perry
1. Things change, JVR has replaced him. I like Lupul, but do we really need him anymore?

2. Do you really think Bozak is the only reason Kessel is in Toronto

3. I would be fine with that, lets us keep a cheaper Bozak. but then that brings me to this... why sign Grabo just to trade him

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Were going to lose a dman or two somewhere. And I dont forsee Mac with us beyond this season.

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You think Bozak will get less money than Garbo? He doesn't get alot of respect but right now Bozak is our #1 center ahead of Garbo, plays PP, PK, takes all the key faceoffs. Like it or not he is will get Garbo/Plekanec/Kesler type money near $5 mil.

Mac we will let walk, but we will keep him past the deadline. I see alot of people saying we should trade him when Lupul comes back to a playoff team for a prospect/pick but that doesn't make sense since the leafs will be a playoff team. He is the type of depth guy that can fill in when need be on any line 1-4. Mac and Connolly will be good depth guys to have come playoff time.

Orr will be back at $1 mil, remember anything over 900k and the cap hit stays if sent down.

Kadri at this pace will probably be more like $2.5-3 mil

Komorov $1.5 mil

Kostka will not be back, he is just filler for now. Too many young guys in the wings.

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Were going to lose a dman or two somewhere. And I dont forsee Mac with us beyond this season.
I honestly can't even see us keeping him passed this years trade deadline. Especially with Lupul getting closer to returning.

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1. Things change, JVR has replaced him. I like Lupul, but do we really need him anymore?

2. Do you really think Bozak is the only reason Kessel is in Toronto

3. I would be fine with that, lets us keep a cheaper Bozak. but then that brings me to this... why sign Grabo just to trade him
nonis did not sign grabo

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nonis did not sign grabo
He likely did. I'm pretty sure Nonis handled most of the re-signings. Burke just gave final word

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You think Bozak will get less money than Garbo? He doesn't get alot of respect but right now Bozak is our #1 center ahead of Garbo, plays PP, PK, takes all the key faceoffs. Like it or not he is will get Garbo/Plekanec/Kesler type money near $5 mil.

Mac we will let walk, but we will keep him past the deadline. I see alot of people saying we should trade him when Lupul comes back to a playoff team for a prospect/pick but that doesn't make sense since the leafs will be a playoff team. He is the type of depth guy that can fill in when need be on any line 1-4. Mac and Connolly will be good depth guys to have come playoff time.

Orr will be back at $1 mil, remember anything over 900k and the cap hit stays if sent down.

Kadri at this pace will probably be more like $2.5-3 mil

Komorov $1.5 mil

Kostka will not be back, he is just filler for now. Too many young guys in the wings.
so cap space is not going to be as big as we thought for next year.
i think grabo and kulimen get moved this year,
sign perry over the summer

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He likely did. I'm pretty sure Nonis handled most of the re-signings. Burke just gave final word
that was a stupid signing, rushed. nonis has patience, he would of not sign grabo for that much, burkie all over that signing

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I honestly can't even see us keeping him passed this years trade deadline. Especially with Lupul getting closer to returning.
Depends if were in or not. If we're out, theres not a chance we keep him. If we're in, I could see it.

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Depends if were in or not. If we're out, theres not a chance we keep him. If we're in, I could see it.
even if were in, he is getting moved, unless we want to sign him next year.
2nd round pick is good , future. its not all about this year

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even if were in, he is getting moved, unless we want to sign him next year.
2nd round pick is good , future. its not all about this year
Teams rarely sell assets when they're in the playoff picture. Nonis wont risk screwing with team chemistry, or leaving us slim on offensive depth going into that grind. He'll let him walk if he has to.

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You think Bozak will get less money than Garbo? He doesn't get alot of respect but right now Bozak is our #1 center ahead of Garbo, plays PP, PK, takes all the key faceoffs. Like it or not he is will get Garbo/Plekanec/Kesler type money near $5 mil.
Bozak will not get anything close to 5.5 mil lmfao. Yeah hes a good player but the only reason he is on our top line is because Grabo hasn't worked out with Kessel. Once we have a high end centermen Bozak will be a 3rd line center who can play on the PK. Nothing more.

Something around 3mil is more realistic for him.

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Bozak will not get anything close to 5.5 mil lmfao. Yeah hes a good player but the only reason he is on our top line is because Grabo hasn't worked out with Kessel. Once we have a high end centermen Bozak will be a 3rd line center who can play on the PK. Nothing more.

Something around 3mil is more realistic for him.
he is going to use Grabo's contract as a comparable he only had 3-4 points less then Grabo last season and is currently out producing him and playing better overall then Grabo, he won't get 5.5 but you can depth bet he'll be looking for 4-4.5 on a long term deal.

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RFA:

Kadri - 2,000,000
Franson - 1,750,000
Komarov - 1,500,000
Gunnarsson - 2,500,000
One of Fraser/Holzer - 800,000 (Both if Franson/Gunnarsson are gone)

UFA:

Bozak - 2,500,000 (If he wants to stay)
MacArthur - Walks
Kostka - Walks
One of Orr/Mclaren- 1,000,000/800,000 (respectively)
Steckel - Walks

Compliance Buyout:

Komisarek - (-4,500,000)

=$7,750,000

New '13-'14 Cap Space = 9,400,833

Lupul Bozak Kessel (Scoring)
JVR Kadri Frattin (Secondary Scoring)
Komarov Grabovski Kulemin (Shutdown)
Orr McClement Brown (Energy)

Phaneuf Gunnarsson
Liles Franson (Franson on the wrong side/Possibly trade bait)
Gardiner Holzer
Rielly

Reimer
Scrivens

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he is going to use Grabo's contract as a comparable he only had 3-4 points less then Grabo last season and is currently out producing him and playing better overall then Grabo, he won't get 5.5 but you can depth bet he'll be looking for 4-4.5 on a long term deal.
Not sure which games you are watching but when I watch the leafs play it's still fairly clear Grabovski is our best centerman. Even when he is on a bit of a cold streak he is a more dynamic player than Bozak, being better both offensively and defensively. I love bozak but the reality is he is a very skilled and responsible #3 center in this league and I hope one day he can get this role in Toronto. Until then we're just gonna have to hope Kadri pans out in a couple seasons, otherwise that makes Bozak expandable for a #1 centerman.

Bozak at 4.5 per, long term, would be the laughing stock of the league buddy

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8 Million for perry, everyone knows he has 1 goal this year right.
Its all Kouivu and Selanne.


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bozak should know his role moving forward is a #3 C and should not price himself out of it. He's getting top line duties because we don't have anything better, chemistry reasons.

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Not sure which games you are watching but when I watch the leafs play it's still fairly clear Grabovski is our best centerman. Even when he is on a bit of a cold streak he is a more dynamic player than Bozak, being better both offensively and defensively. I love bozak but the reality is he is a very skilled and responsible #3 center in this league and I hope one day he can get this role in Toronto. Until then we're just gonna have to hope Kadri pans out in a couple seasons, otherwise that makes Bozak expandable for a #1 centerman.

Bozak at 4.5 per, long term, would be the laughing stock of the league buddy
I didn't say we would sign him but thats what he'll be asking for 4.5 is 20% less then Grabo's contract is grabo that much better? no, if anyone thinks that he's going to get half of what Grabo got 2.75 there dreaming. Bozak is not half the player nor is he all that far behind and yea imo he's played better overall then Grabo so far and has had the bigger impact on the team. he will not sign for less then 4-4.5 mill here in Toronto before testing the open market. this is part of the reason why Grabo's contract is so bad.

btw Grabo is so good defensively he averages 1 second of pk time per game. the only reason Grabo's line plays the shutdown role is because it would be stupid to have JVR and Kessel trying to shutdown the top players. and the same goes for Kadri's line and the 4th line so that leaves Grabo's by default. Bozak is much better defensively, and miles better at taking draws as he takes the majority of the important draws. the value Bozak brings to this team right now is bigger then Grabo's.

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