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03-03-2005, 11:17 AM
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Great Minds - What The Heck Is Softexpress?

http://vansoftware.net/index.html

I came across this website and was wondering if anything knows if it is legit or not. It seems ridiculously cheap but if it's for real - is utterly cool.

Is it baloney?

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looks sketchy to me -- i would test the waters with something 20 bucks or less (just my thoughts) -- its direct downloading and no media, do they offer a replacement if say your HD blows? no media also makes me wonder about the legitimacy of the software licensing they are selling

Domain Name : vansoftware.net
: :Registrant: :
Name : ANTHONY CRIPPEN
Email : xmasta@gmail.com

The dude that owns this domain name has a gmail address? Not a user@vansoftware.net address, sketchy

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looks sketchy to me -- i would test the waters with something 20 bucks or less (just my thoughts) -- its direct downloading and no media, do they offer a replacement if say your HD blows? no media also makes me wonder about the legitimacy of the software licensing they are selling

Domain Name : vansoftware.net
: :Registrant: :
Name : ANTHONY CRIPPEN
Email : xmasta@gmail.com

The dude that owns this domain name has a gmail address? Not a user@vansoftware.net address, sketchy
My thoughts exactly. I emailed Microsoft to see if they were a licenced provider of their software. I'm curious if they would even say? I'll post it here if they reply.

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Another thing that frightens me is that on the page that you "purchase" stuff from is not secure


http://vansoftware.net/gate.php?a=or...purchase_024=1

should be https especially at the point where you input your C-Card number

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Another thing that frightens me is that on the page that you "purchase" stuff from is not secure


http://vansoftware.net/gate.php?a=or...purchase_024=1

should be https especially at the point where you input your C-Card number
It says this:

Please, enter all your billing information as it appears at your card. All fields are required. All the information you enter into this form will be sent to the server through 128-bit secure connection at the final step. Please note, that our processing bank automatically adds a transaction fee for amount $0.95 - $9.95.

This information is provided by the customer and is entered into our certified secure network. Any information provided by our customers is never shared, sold, or released to any third party outside our network.


But no little lock on the bottom of my browser? No kidding Aki Fan - this is starting to look like it and smell like it.

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so I can enter my CCard info on an insecure page where it can get picked off in transit to a secure site -- no faith there that this is safe or legitimate

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Moreover -- vansoftware.net resolves to 63.162.23.123 and traces back to a NIC or Modem named cblmdm63-162-23-123.buckeye-express.com [63.162.23.123]

Now buckeye-express is a ISP in Ohio - and they do offer commercial as well as residential service:

http://buckeye-express.com/bci_html/...feesandcharges

Now could it be a start-up business with a low budget (they claim to have started in Nov 2004) or are they a home user, using their cable connection in a get rich quick scheme.

Scanning their IP, only port 80 is available, which is good as it is not a idiot scammer trying to run an http server off his home machine - well he could be but at least as enough common sense to have a firewall or everyday router with port forwarding enabled.

No telnet, ssh, or ftp enabled dammit no fun for me today on their server

3059: ssh: connect to address 63.162.23.123 port 22: Connection refused

They have their system locked down which is good but I still dont trust it. Mainly due to their lack of https:, their no media and cheap pricing, but more so to the oddities of the domain registration (it expires in 1 year - no confidence in the business or a one and done get rich deal), it looks like a home-user to me

DNS record qas created:

Created Date 2005-02-21 15: 30: 15 EST
Updated Date 2005-02-21 15: 30: 15 EST
Expires Date 2006-02-21 15: 30: 15 EST

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They are also on numerous SPAM blacklists

http://www.joewein.de/sw/spam-bl-v.htm#bl

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Looks like our friend is selling pirated software from home - I am guessing.

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Nice work, Aki.

How do you port scan- Do you have a mac?

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Nice work, Aki.

How do you port scan- Do you have a mac?
I have various tools that I use, all Solaris or Unix based, some standardized tools like nmap, ethereal etc... and a bunch of customized tools from Cisco that I use to track down virus idiots at work.

ANyone can do it though, there so many free shareware ones out there for Windows, Languard makes a cool one if I remember from my Windows' days. Most smart admins though will lock down the ports that allow you to see any ports open on their sites but sometimes you can get lucky and catch traffic leaving-entering the site.

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You can also use www.whois.net it shows all registration data for the specified domain name.

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