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01-18-2013, 04:35 PM
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Cloning Extinct Species

We all know that the Japanese are working on cloning mammoths within the next decade, but a Harvard scientist has now told Der Spiegel that he might be interested in cloning neanderthals.

http://gawker.com/5977130/could-you-...in-30000-years

I brought something like this up in an evolutionary anthropology course and got scolded at for thinking unethically. I don't think that was necessarily a wrong judgement, cloning extinct hominins seems like it's asking for trouble.

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Now that we've proven things like chimpanzees, gorillas, orangutans, etc are self-aware, cloning a sophisticated hominin opens up a colossal can of worms.

This last past is especially troubling:

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Once the baby's out, though, you're in good shape Neanderthal babies are thought to have grown much more quickly than their human counterparts. And Church seems to think that there'll be a Neanderthal craze, as he told Bloomberg Businessweek last year:

"We have lots of Neanderthal parts around the lab. We are creating Neanderthal cells. Let's say someone has a healthy, normal Neanderthal baby. Well, then, everyone will want to have a Neanderthal kid. Were they superstrong or supersmart? Who knows? But there's one way to find out."
Designer neanderthal babies? Give me a break.

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Sounds like a good way to create an underclass that revolts against their cruel creators.

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I wonder if Neanderthals would have the rights of people. Wouldn't anything else be slavery?

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I wonder if Neanderthals would have the rights of people. Wouldn't anything else be slavery?
They should, since we're 3% Neanderthal

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Last week's NOVA was on Neanderthals (and Monday's Bones had a Neanderthal twist).

Apparently, there is some immunity to a few diseases due to the Neanderthal in our DNA.

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Sounds like a good way to create an underclass that revolts against their cruel creators.
Funny AND true!

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As fascinating as this is, don't play God.

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Things are extinct for a reason.

Just because scientists can do it doesn't mean they should do it.

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Things are extinct for a reason.

Just because scientists can do it doesn't mean they should do it.
In a sense I agree with you. But if the extinction is due to man's hand then if we can bring something back then why not? For example, say when Rhinos become extinct, bring a couple back, keep them in sanctuaries and try and bring the species back.

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Sounds like a good way to create an underclass that revolts against their cruel creators.
My thoughts exactly.

Though the Epsilon caste in Brave New World was happily tranquil. Likely due to all the government-mandated sex and drugs. Maybe that's all we need.

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In a sense I agree with you. But if the extinction is due to man's hand then if we can bring something back then why not? For example, say when Rhinos become extinct, bring a couple back, keep them in sanctuaries and try and bring the species back.
I don't think there is anything that could be a surrogate for a Rhino, but we have them on zoos, so we can breed them.

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The idea of mammoth cloning is boosted with the retrieval of a mammoth blood sample.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/05...n_3360442.html

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I'm torn. On the one hand, neat. On the other hand, unethical - the neanderthal would essentially be a living experiment that, for all we know, is deserving of all the rights of a person.

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I'm torn. On the one hand, neat. On the other hand, unethical - the neanderthal would essentially be a living experiment that, for all we know, is deserving of all the rights of a person.
Yup.

Had the same debate in Anthro as well.

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