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04-05-2014, 01:06 PM
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Today's Music

I noticed that a lot of the most popular music today uses samples of older music. That worst part of that is the younger generation think its a brand new song. Why can't artists make up there own music?

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04-05-2014, 01:15 PM
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Seriously it's not a new thing. Artists have always paid homage to their favorites whether it is covering a song, stealing a lyric or sampling.

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Entertainment board is thataway

Also, if you're looking to the sort of modern-day stuff you mention as some representation of creativity in music, you're in the wrong place.

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Entertainment board is thataway

Also, if you're looking to the sort of modern-day stuff you mention as some representation of creativity in music, you're in the wrong place.
I really hope you're never a news anchor. It would be unsettling if an inmate escaped from jail and the news said he was heading 'thataway'.


How would I know whether he's coming in my direction?



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I really hope you're never a news anchor. It would be unsettling if an inmate escaped from jail and the news said he was heading 'thataway'.


How would I know whether he's coming in my direction?


Because I'd point when I said it, duh.

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04-05-2014, 03:53 PM
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Because I'd point when I said it, duh.
I don't know what direction your TV studio is facing.

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Just get with the times, old man.

Hot Fuzz has evolved and became one with the younger generations. It's your turn now.

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Just take those old records off the shelf
I'll sit and listen to 'em by myself
Today's music ain't got the same soul
I like that old time rock 'n' roll
Don't try to take me to a disco
You'll never even get me out on the floor
In ten minutes I'll be late for the door
I like that old time rock 'n' roll

Still like that old time rock 'n' roll
That kind of music just soothes the soul
I reminisce about the days of old
With that old time rock 'n' roll
Won't go to hear 'em play a tango
I'd rather hear some blues or funky old soul
There's only one sure way to get me to go
Start playing old time rock 'n' roll
Call me a relic, call me what you will
Say I'm old-fashioned, say I'm over the hill
Today's music ain't got the same soul
I like that old time rock 'n' roll

Still like that old time rock 'n' roll
That kind of music just soothes the soul
I reminisce about the days of old
With that old time rock 'n' roll

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People pay tribute to other bands and composers all the time, and have always done so. But in the mainstream pop scene, sometimes they just borrow to improve their song, nothing else. That is dumb.

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Artists sample all the time. Sometimes it worries me when some people have no idea they're using a sample, especially if it's an extremely popular song.

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Even classical composers borrowed stuff from others. I don't have a problem with that as long as the original artist is ok with it.

As far as people not knowing whether it is sampled/borrowed material or if it is new, that just means that the average person is fine listening to whatever the top 40 is and has no desire to explore music new to them. They are the same way with tv, movies, books. Most people don't want to take the time to explore different things and are fine with whatever is being force fed to them. Their loss.

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The vast majority of today's music sucks.

The only good thing is that it will be forgotten quickly.

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The vast majority of today's music sucks.

The only good thing is that it will be forgotten quickly.
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The vast majority of today's music sucks.

The only good thing is that it will be forgotten quickly.
The vast majority of today's popular music sucks. That's the problem. '50s pop, '60s pop, '70s pop, etc., they are all good. '90s top 40 radio was also good. The radio now is generally garbage. I listen to Sirius radio, only certain channels, and that's about it. There's wonderful music out there. You don't even have to look that hard. But popular music is where the poison is. That's what changes the landscape.

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Oh boy it's this thread again.

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The vast majority of today's popular music sucks. That's the problem. '50s pop, '60s pop, '70s pop, etc., they are all good. '90s top 40 radio was also good. The radio now is generally garbage. I listen to Sirius radio, only certain channels, and that's about it. There's wonderful music out there. You don't even have to look that hard. But popular music is where the poison is. That's what changes the landscape.
No, all eras were filled with **** music, but the bad stuff gets forgotten and the cream rises to the top. So many of the most iconic songs of yesteryear barely charted.

The radio stuff today is significantly worse than it was in the past since there were at least good songs that came on there, now it's just all marketed to the couple demographics that still listen to the radio (namely 14 year-old girls), but to say that other eras were inherently better quality is ignoring the massive **** heaps that climbed the chart just like the crap doing so today.

Heartbeat was a top 5 single when I was born. Yes, the Don Johnson song. America really liked Miami Vice in 1986.


The sampling of old music is annoying, but it's not new and typically now they're more upfront about it, rather than just ripping off the same progression/riff/whatever and calling it their own.

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A thread attacking modern music? Haven't seen this in a while.

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Popular music isn't THAT BAD. It's catchy.

You all bash these pop songs, but they're the same pop songs being used as NHL goal horns!


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Pop music is like a big buffet that has been open for two-thirds of a century. Grab a plate and pick and choose what you like. If you want snails, help yourself; if you don't want sardines, keep in mind other people might.

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Even classical composers borrowed stuff from others.
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I definitely lean towards thinking that modern music (both popular and not) has been far worse than the other decades, even considering that there's halfway decent stuff when you dig deeper-- I think it's consistently trended downwards since the 60s/70s as well. And I'm closer to being of this generation than that one.

I started out listening to newer music exclusively (looking through Pitchfork-esque lists for albums), but I lean progressively more and more in the former direction as I try more and more stuff (I find that even digging through the 50s tends to yield better results than 90-2014, IMO-- particularly when I started opening up to Jazz and Blues).

It's not about getting with the times, its all the same as long as you're looking for the most satisfying stuff-- For me, the cream is usually mostly from the pre-90s. The bad pop music will always be bad and will eventually be forgotten, but there's far less top-drawer cream now too, IMO (that sounds really weird). Every decade from the 50s to the 80s, there tend to be three or four artists that hit me on a Beatles-ish level (not necessarily as much, but still-- I go nuts about them). I haven't really found much of any of that in the 90s, 2000s, and 2010s, personally.

You can complain about people complaining all you want, but it's just their sincere matter-of-fact opinion.

As far as POPULAR music goes, catchy pop music serves a function, sure, but that function flat out doesn't matter as much, in my opinion-- It's like comparing a cheap hooker to true love, except it's extra annoying because the average person in real life tends to go "True love? Blegh!! That stuff's weird and alienating. Cheap hookers are where it's at! More accessible and fun!"

And sure, it's subjective-- but if you feel that way, why not act accordingly? By doing so, I'm not directly attacking people who think otherwise, I'm just disagreeing.
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Popular music isn't THAT BAD. It's catchy.

You all bash these pop songs, but they're the same pop songs being used as NHL goal horns!
Are people supposed to read this and go "Gee whiz, you're right! If it's good enough for the NHL, it's good enough for me!" or something?


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It's like comparing a cheap hooker to true love, except it's extra annoying because the average person in real life tends to go "True love? Blegh!! That stuff's weird and alienating. Cheap hookers are where it's at! More accessible and fun!"
What average people do you hang out with?

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I definitely lean towards thinking that modern music (both popular and not) has been far worse than the other decades,
Said somebody in every generation/decade/era.

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This was a #1 hit single in the 50s...



Every generation has its share of ****** popular music. It seems more abundant in today's world, mainly due to modern technology (twitter, youtube, MTV (lol), etc).

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