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Niño Neiderreiter vs Chris Kreider

View Poll Results: Better long-term player?
Nino Niederreiter 72 64.86%
Chris Kreider 39 35.14%
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01-19-2013, 08:11 AM
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Niño Neiderreiter vs Chris Kreider

We all know Nino's struggles last season in the NHL (who wouldn't struggle as a rookie with line mates such as Reasoner and Gillies) and Kreider's impressive performance in the playoffs. This is not a debate about who the better prospect is to this point but rather who will be the better player LONG TERM. Which player has the better tools to succeed? It's hard to have such a rational debate when one player is trending up(Kreider) with Niño on the opposite side of the spectrum (although he is off to impressive start in Bridgeport this season)

Enough talk, please help me settle this debate with a rangers buddy.

-Who will be a better player Niño or Kreider?

EDIT: Yes Niederreiter is spelt incorrectly in the title, please no ignorant comments

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Nino will be better in the Swiss league

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Nino will be better in the Swiss league
well he is currently better in the ahl

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Nino, I feel that he was rushed last year but it's really nice to see that he's bounced back very well.

Any player with the potential down the line to play with Tavares is going to be a good player. Nino is already a great prospect, Tavares has the ability to make him better.

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Niederreiter should be much better than Kreider.

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Kreider is a lot bigger and a much better skater than Nino.

Kreider will be on a great team surrounded by great players for a long time. The odds are that Kreider will have the better long term future than Nino.

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admitted homer vote.

could go either way.

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Nino will be the better of the two!! Krieder will likely be a 2nd or 3rd line player for the Rangers and will likely score 20-25 goals, 50 points a season in his prime. Nino playing with Taveres or Strome might very well end up being a 30 goal, 60-70 point forward a year.

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Krieder I think does better, his skating is better and he will also be playing on a better team so he'll have a more positive development path Imo.

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Kreider is a lot bigger and a much better skater than Nino.

Kreider will be on a great team surrounded by great players for a long time. The odds are that Kreider will have the better long term future than Nino.
Nino Niederreiter 6-2/205
Chris Kreider 6-3/230

Better skater yes, "a lot" bigger no. However, I think Nino has more talent and a greater upside.

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Nino Niederreiter 6-2/205
Chris Kreider 6-3/230

Better skater yes, "a lot" bigger no. However, I think Nino has more talent and a greater upside.
Well, I don't think this a huge factor but 25 pounds for an inch difference in pretty significant.

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Well, I don't think this a huge factor but 25 pounds for an inch difference in pretty significant.
OK, he's fatter.

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Nino will be the better of the two!! Krieder will likely be a 2nd or 3rd line player for the Rangers and will likely score 20-25 goals, 50 points a season in his prime. Nino playing with Taveres or Strome might very well end up being a 30 goal, 60-70 point forward a year.
Yeah because there is no way Kreider reaches those numbers playing with the likes of Gaborik, Stepan, Nash, Hagelin, Richards, and Callahan . Kreider may be slotted on the third line to start the season, but he could easily rise through the depth charts depending on his play and that of the other wingers in our top 9.

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Krieder had a very nice playoff last year Nino Struggled....

Both will be top 6 wingers imo

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Yeah because there is no way Kreider reaches those numbers playing with the likes of Gaborik, Stepan, Nash, Hagelin, Richards, and Callahan . Kreider may be slotted on the third line to start the season, but he could easily rise through the depth charts depending on his play and that of the other wingers in our top 9.
Or his play could be similar to the AHL this year and he does not sniff the top two lines on the Rangers and plays with the likes of Boyle, Rupp, Asham etc. on the 3rd line and does not come close to 30 goals 60 points.

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Well, I don't think this a huge factor but 25 pounds for an inch difference in pretty significant.
It would only be significant if he used it. Nino is much more physical than Kreider.

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Nino Niederreiter 6-2/205
Chris Kreider 6-3/230

Better skater yes, "a lot" bigger no. However, I think Nino has more talent and a greater upside.
It is very interesting that both players when they were drafted were listed at 6'2 around 205 pounds. It seems Kreider got a lot bigger since he was drafted. Nino is listed at the same size and weight as his draft year.

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Well, I don't think this a huge factor but 25 pounds for an inch difference in pretty significant.
The inch not really but the 25 pounds sure

Both guys to me seem like they will be the product of the system and linemates they play with. In the case of Nino he will be useless unless you have people to feed him pucks and in the case of Kreider he will be useless unless his linemates can capitalize on his speed(ie he opens up ice for them)

I think Kreider is probably better then Nino in most aspects of the game but the one aspect Nino is better(ie goal scoring) will determine who is the better player(ie can he translate his goal scoring ability to the NHL level or not)


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