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Has Ovechkin actually regressed or is he just complacent?

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03-03-2013, 03:30 PM
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Has Ovechkin actually regressed or is he just complacent?

He has a wife and a huge contract, things that he didn't have when he was the best player in the league. Do you think he has just become complacent or has he actually regressed?

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He just doesn't have the passion anymore.

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Complacent, I don't think he does much of anything to get better in the off season.

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The team changed to a defensive game when they shouldn't have. Forced Ovechkin to do the same and ruined him. They should never had left the offensive style they played.

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Are there players who thrived after landing a retirement contract?

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He has a wife and a huge contract, things that he didn't have when he was the best player in the league. Do you think he has just become complacent or has he actually regressed?
Are the two options mutually exclusive?

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I can't believe someone would factor the wife. Is it a joke?

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It's the wife.

Before he had to impress the ladies and work hard to earn them bodies. Not so much anymore... Sad really.

It's the russian in him.

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Are there players who thrived after landing a retirement contract?
Hossa. Caps should trade OV.

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Seems just complacent.

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He's got to leave Washington. I have no idea what he would fetch in trade, but i really can't see it hurting this team except for attendance which is probably enough to keep him.

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When I read the comments on Ovechkin's recent play in the NHL I realize how tough it is for North Americans to break the cycle of prejudice against Russians, the KHL and so on. Ovechkin is still Ovechkin on every other team than the Caps. So why blame it on Ovechkin? Maybe something's wrong with the team/coaching? On any other team, with any other coach Ovechkin is doing great.

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It's the wife.

Before he had to impress the ladies and work hard to earn them bodies. Not so much anymore... Sad really.

It's the russian in him.
Here we go. Just stupid.

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Why is it hard to believe that a 27 year old man is married? NHL players are people too...
Oh of course. It's just that thinking it would have a negative effect on his game is just a ridiculous assumption, bordering on misogynistic territory.

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A change of scenery won't help. It doesn't matter where he plays, they need to allow him to flourish offensively. Employ an offensive system in which he can pot 60 goals, 120 points a season.

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Are the two options mutually exclusive?
Beat me to it.

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I think they switched over to a defensive scheme and it hurt the whole team. Then they switched coaches, goalies and other personnel .

Then Ovie went to Russia, where he loves playing in the KHL and was not shy about tell us all. His girlfriend is one of the hottest female tennis players in the history of the game and is also Russian.

I dont think his heart is with the Capitals anymore. He made a commitment to the team and the city and he is going to honor it but he does not have the motivation to succeed the way he had before.

Hes being paid a ton of cash so he does feel obligated to do whatever he can but you can tell something is missing.

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When I read the comments on Ovechkin's recent play in the NHL I realize how tough it is for North Americans to break the cycle of prejudice against Russians, the KHL and so on. Ovechkin is still Ovechkin on every other team than the Caps. So why blame it on Ovechkin? Maybe something's wrong with the team/coaching? On any other team, with any other coach Ovechkin is doing great.
He has been on a consistent downward trajectory under three consecutive coaches. What more do you want?

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Everyone was ogling his stats and didn't see the obvious holes in his game. Horrible defensive play, predictable moves and not really grasping the idea of cycling.

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if there was an NHL fantasy draft today

Ovechkin would be a top 10 pick

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When I read the comments on Ovechkin's recent play in the NHL I realize how tough it is for North Americans to break the cycle of prejudice against Russians, the KHL and so on. Ovechkin is still Ovechkin on every other team than the Caps. So why blame it on Ovechkin? Maybe something's wrong with the team/coaching? On any other team, with any other coach Ovechkin is doing great.
Wow, there's no need to pull the prejudice card. People blame it on Ovechkin because an elite player should be able to adapt to a new system, and give it his all no matter what. He doesn't do what he's paid to do. Not because he's Russian. Do you see people attacking Malkin or any other Russian player because they're Russian? No, and when they do criticize, it's because of their play. Ovechkin's play sucks and he deserves all the criticism he gets, he has no passion left and he's embarrassing the people who pay him $10mil a year.

The caps have tried different coaches and coaching methods and Ovechkin hasn't respond to any of them. He has flashes of his old brilliance, but for the most part he is complacent. He doesn't have the compete levels of players like Malkin, Crosby, or Stamkos, and really doesn't deserve to be put in their category anymore.

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He just doesn't have the passion anymore.
If you watch Ovy play now and you can remember what he used to play like it's pretty clear this is the answer. He just doesn't play with that "I'm going to score - try and stop me" attitude anymore.

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He has been on a consistent downward trajectory under three consecutive coaches. What more do you want?
Try to read my post. Really. There is a world outside the Washington Capitals and the NHL for that matter. The so called new system in Washington doesn't work, the coaches they are hiring doesn't work. Ovechkin does. Just not on the Caps.

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Oh of course. It's just that thinking it would have a negative effect on his game is just a ridiculous assumption, bordering on misogynistic territory.
Not in the slightest. Wife = greater life satisfaction. Greater life satisfaction = less hunger. Not sure how that is misogynistic...

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