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01-24-2013, 08:32 AM
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Without a contract, the Habs are completely handcuffed when trading him. They can get maybe HALF the return they possibly could if he was signed. If I was Lou Lamoriello, I would, however, trade John Merrill, Henrik Tallinder, a 1st, and a 2nd for him haha.
Kessel?

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Yakupov + Petry
I would jump all over this, too bad Edmonton would never do it.

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Exciting player detected. Must trade.
-page 2 of the Habs GM handbook.

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01-24-2013, 08:34 AM
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An unsigned Subban wouldn't fetch anywhere near Couturier.
Uhh what? If a team is willing to spend the big bucks and long term contract on him, yes definitely he is worth alot.

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An unsigned Subban wouldn't fetch anywhere near Couturier.
yes he will


He is still RFA for 3 more years. So his value isnt hurt at all by the contract status

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Without a contract, the Habs are completely handcuffed when trading him.
Not at all. You've never heard of a sign and trade type of deal?

Obviously whatever team that trades for PK would have permission to talk to his agent and presumably have a deal in place prior to a trade.

You think a team would trade for him just hoping to sign him?

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An unsigned Subban wouldn't fetch anywhere near Couturier.
Yeah he will, not like he's a UFA.

The only reason we don't sign him ourselves is Bervevin's idiotic bridge contract policy that he remains firm on, anyone else won't have any problems signing him.

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Exciting player detected. Must trade.
-page 2 of the Habs GM handbook.
There aren't any other exciting players in the NHL except for Subban?

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Kessel?
Yeah... Brian Burke pulled the trigger on that trade. How's his job security?

Boston won a cup and have SICK depth and prospects because of it. That type of trade will never happen again.

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Niño, mayfield and a 3rd for subban? Isles would probably have to add more I'm assuming

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The problem is, if he is seeking $6-7M or so, how many teams

1) Are willing to pay that
2) Have the cap room
3) Have the kind of assets that Montreal would want back

I honestly don't know the answer. Are you looking at 1-2 teams seriously bidding or 10? Keep in mind the cap drops back to $64M next season.

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An unsigned Subban wouldn't fetch anywhere near Couturier.
Sure he would. When Flyers want their guy, they'll pay. In this case they will pay both Montreal and Subban.

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Yeah I don't think many Habs fans will complain if that were to go down. Then we would need to deal one of Plekanec or Desharnais though because we are overcrowded at center for the moment.
My thought would be that MTL would accept a trade for a player with roots in Quebec (his father is a Quebec native) to appeal to the fan base.

The Kreider suggestion comes because MTL needs help on the wings (obviously help on D now too). The NYR DESPERATELY need a PP QB with a shot...who is a Righty.

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Not at all. You've never heard of a sign and trade type of deal?

Obviously whatever team that trades for PK would have permission to talk to his agent and presumably have a deal in place prior to a trade.

You think a team would trade for him just hoping to sign him?
Please list me the last three sign and trades.

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I know it's the most repeated line when talking about Couts on HF but: If Homer wasn't willing to give him up for a signed Weber, why would he give him up for an unsigned Subban? I know that was then and this is now, but honestly, it's 3 games into the season. Homer may panic somewhat and go hard for him, but I don't think he, nor the Flyers, are worried enough yet to trade Couturier for PK Subban

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The one interesting thing about this scenario will be if PK is traded. Hab fans will suddenly change their opinion to "PK was overrated, he isn't that good, he was too much trouble", etc. That will be worth the price of admission, seeing PK's upside in the eyes of Habsfan go from Shea Weber to Jay Boewmeester in a millisecond.
Absolutely this will happen. At the moment, I'm unsure of his upside. He has all the atheleticism in the world but there are times where I question his hockey sense/instinct.

That said, I know he has a lot of potential and value if he were to be traded, contract or not.

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Subban could be headed to Philly.

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Please list me the last three sign and trades.
I can't name the last 1 sign and trade deal.

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It was the panel's opinion of the situation. While some thought that a trade was imminent on TSN, most well-informed journalists/commentators in Montreal are saying that a trade will not occur. Bergevin also told the media that he WILL NOT trade PK Subban.

I know it's entertaining to propose trades, but it's very unlikely that he's being dealt.

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Uhh what? If a team is willing to spend the big bucks and long term contract on him, yes definitely he is worth alot.
His value will be lowered based on the money being asked. That being said he should still easily return Couturier+.

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An unsigned Subban wouldn't fetch anywhere near Couturier.

When you are the GM of the Flyers, who have lots of pressure to put out a great product and your defense sucks, sure it does. However, you have no cap room. If Philly wants him, it starts with Couts.

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Subban could be headed to Philly.
As a NYR fan I dread this...Sather is really in no position to do anything, but he obviously has mind control over the entire city of Montreal.

So, I will not rule the overlord out of the PK Subban mix.

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Question reamins, what other team will give Subban a contract he accept? If he is looking for a home run deal and the club who knows him the best wont give him one then what say other teams will? At least with Kessel it was more then just the money, it was about Phil not fitting in etc.

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