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01-19-2013, 11:43 AM
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It is amazing how many other fanbases try and trade for a player that 99% of other fans say is a locker room cancer, immature, nothing but issues, a massive ego....etc, etc



As to the OP, it is one of the better offers, but I personally would rather keep him or trade him for another young star if I were to trade him at all
SJ fans didn't start this thread.

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Counter offer

Couture for Subban
Terrible offer. Even if they were equal players, Couture is signed to a much better contract.

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01-19-2013, 12:06 PM
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When Markov is healthy, he's not your number one and he wouldn't be on the Jets.

Bogosian can be just as physical, and put up better offensive numbers last year with less PP time. It's very close, but I prefer Bogosian's game a little. He's bigger and is growing into his frame.
I don't know where u get your numbers but subban got 36 point with +9 and bogo got 30 point with -3 so subban had better offensive numbers !!

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01-19-2013, 12:15 PM
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PK Subban



Gustav Nyquist
Patrick Eaves
2013 DET 1st



Trade makes the Wings much stronger on defense, and the Habs receive assets for their future.

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01-19-2013, 12:19 PM
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I don't know where u get your numbers but subban got 36 point with +9 and bogo got 30 point with -3 so subban had better offensive numbers !!
Except Subban played 16 more games than Bogosian.

AND his D partner was better than Bogosian's

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01-19-2013, 12:20 PM
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If Detroit wants Subban, Smith has to come the other way

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01-19-2013, 12:26 PM
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I like Subban as a player, but I still wouldn't want him as a Penguin. The monetary issues, what we would have to give up for him, and his personal issues all say this is something the Pens do not need.

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01-19-2013, 12:27 PM
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PK Subban



Gustav Nyquist
Patrick Eaves
2013 DET 1st



Trade makes the Wings much stronger on defense, and the Habs receive assets for their future.
Smith + Nyquist are a must. I wouldn't mind adding a bit to Subban if necessary. Something like Collberg or one of our 3 2nds this year.

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01-19-2013, 12:50 PM
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Subban = Bogo

Plek, Gionta <<<< Kane

Jets say no quite easily
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Not bad

imo:

Subban=Bogosian

Plekanec+Gionta=Kane


Value is good but Jets won't do it just because:

-Kane+Bogosian aren't going anywhere anytime soon. Faces of the Franchise of the future

-They definitely do not need more 2nd line centers because they have plenty.

-Jets don't want aging forwards. They are looking for future players/young guys.
On what planet exactly?

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lol Eaves.....

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01-19-2013, 12:54 PM
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Smith + Nyquist are a must. I wouldn't mind adding a bit to Subban if necessary. Something like Collberg or one of our 3 2nds this year.
I'd like to see PK in red and white but I don't see Detroit trading their 2 top prospects (one with top line potential, one with top pairing potential) for the negotiating rights to Subban who will likely want a boat load of money.

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01-19-2013, 01:05 PM
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P.K. Subban is a talented defenseman, but his value is too much. Montrčal would want a player like James Neal in return.
Neal is worth more than Subban

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Make that Letang and a 2nd and you have a deal!
Letang is the better dman plus you want a 2nd
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If subban is traded it will be in a 1 on 1 trade not a bunch of player for one ...
Something like

Pk vs ROR That makes sense
Pk vs yakupov EDM is not trading Yak straight up for PK
Pk vs Kane WIN needs Kane more than PK
Pk skinner If Skinner performs like his rookie year I would value Skinner more
Etc

I put 1on1 trade but some low pick or prospect can be add but the mane piece will be youngster like this .. Despres is good but will never be pk same for Harrington and the 1 round pick we don't know who it is so no deal
PK is a good dman but he is not one of the top dmen in the league.

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01-19-2013, 01:07 PM
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This can all be done by buying out Martin and replacing him by a prospect(Depres or Harrington). You get about a 4 millions economy there! So you got enough to sign Subban short term and win another Stanley Cup... I doubt Letang want's that much of a raise since he will want to stay put in PITT to win stanleys...

Geno is getting payed enough as it is so no raise needed!
Letang already took one big pay cut he is not going to take another huge one.

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01-19-2013, 01:14 PM
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A polite no thank you.

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01-19-2013, 01:19 PM
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To : Vlasic+Demers

To : Subban+Weber

Thoughts?
We have an abundance of RHD on this team. In addition, we have enough puckmovers from that side as well. However we need more of a shutdown defenseman as well as a LHD. This makes no sense for us.

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Counter offer

Couture for Subban
Yeah because we REALLY need to trade away our top 6 for a defenseman

Change Couture to Wingels and Subban for Galchenyuk

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01-19-2013, 01:22 PM
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Counter offer

Couture for Subban
A Sharks fan has to make the initial offer in order for a Habs fan to counter offer...

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01-19-2013, 01:22 PM
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The thing is, Subban is our major asset for the future.

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01-19-2013, 01:41 PM
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This can all be done by buying out Martin and replacing him by a prospect(Depres or Harrington). You get about a 4 millions economy there! So you got enough to sign Subban short term and win another Stanley Cup... I doubt Letang want's that much of a raise since he will want to stay put in PITT to win stanleys...

Geno is getting payed enough as it is so no raise needed!
you and almost all of HFBoards seem to insist that Paul Martin's season last year was indicative of how he's always played in the NHL. last year was about as much of an off year for him as any defenseman in the NHL can have.

buying him out at this point means that the Pens have to move Lovejoy into the top 6, which would hurt more than having Martin.

also, you don't understand how NHL teams and contracts work if you think Malkin AND Letang are going to make any less than they have on their previous contracts. if anything, Letang and Malkin played themselves into gigantic raises (on any other team, maybe Malkin about $10M per year, Letang about $5-6M per year).


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01-19-2013, 01:44 PM
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I don't know where u get your numbers but subban got 36 point with +9 and bogo got 30 point with -3 so subban had better offensive numbers !!
Look at games played, and the offensive opportunities that each had.

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01-19-2013, 01:59 PM
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I'd like to see PK in red and white but I don't see Detroit trading their 2 top prospects (one with top line potential, one with top pairing potential) for the negotiating rights to Subban who will likely want a boat load of money.
I never said it was realistic. But neither is our GM even entertaining the idea of trading Subban.

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01-19-2013, 02:02 PM
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As a Pens fan i think i'd say no. PK apparently wants a ridiculous amount of money. and i wanna keep Harrington. he's gonna be the kinda player the Pens need.

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Neal is worth more than Subban



Letang is the better dman plus you want a 2nd


PK is a good dman but he is not one of the top dmen in the league.
Yeah, I know that. But, you would have to overpay to get a defenseman like P.K. Subban.

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01-19-2013, 02:11 PM
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If subban goes to Detroit , smith will have to be involve !!

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personally i dont even like either of these teams so i dont really care

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Just a question what does eaves do in the deal ?? Cause he's really useless to mtl

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