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Lupul re-signs with Toronto 5 years (5.25 average)

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01-20-2013, 12:32 PM
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.25 more then expected. Excellent deal.

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01-20-2013, 12:32 PM
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Meh. About what he'd get on the open market, for a year longer than you should like.

So... meh.

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01-20-2013, 12:33 PM
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How is Lupul injury prone? He had an infection in his back which caused him to lose a season, but other than that he hasn't had any severe injury that any other player with his skillset has.

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01-20-2013, 12:36 PM
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5 year ext for Lupul. $5.25 average salary. Ltd no-trade. Leafs can request list of 14 teams. #TSN
They will regret this....at least there are still compliance buyouts

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01-20-2013, 12:36 PM
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You think Lupul is going to sign for 2 years? If that's the term the Leafs offer he probably doesn't get signed. Furthermore he's making 4.25 million this season after a career season. Even if by some chance you do convince him to only sign 2 years in what fantasy world does he only earn a quarter million raise?
The one were the cap is going down, you have an injury history, have consistently been given up on by past teams and have never produced like that before.

Tell him he gets his money when e can show a repeat in his performance. Maybe that means waiting till later in this year to sign the contract (if he continues to produce, pay the man). But, personally, I am of the opinion that you want to sign guys like this to a short contract with a smaller raise as a "show me" and then give them a bigger pay day.

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01-20-2013, 12:37 PM
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They will regret this....at least there are still compliance buyouts
Cap hit seems okay but it's the term that is a little much.

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01-20-2013, 12:39 PM
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Fair deal.

But I am really troubled by the fact that Leaf GMs can't seem to get players signed for less.

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01-20-2013, 12:40 PM
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It certainly sets a precedence for Perry / Getzlaf over the summer (if they come to TO) and how much they will command.

Same can be said for Kessel.

All 3 of those players will want substantially more than a iffy-1st-2nd-liner.

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01-20-2013, 12:44 PM
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I think this is a bad signing. I see Lupul's season as quite the anomaly and I strongly believe he will never produce like that again.

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01-20-2013, 12:45 PM
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It certainly sets a precedence for Perry / Getzlaf over the summer (if they come to TO) and how much they will command.
With the Ducks 7m/8yrs, elsewhere 7.5m/7yrs

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Same can be said for Kessel.

All 3 of those players will want substantially more than a iffy-1st-2nd-liner.
Same goes for Kessel.

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01-20-2013, 12:46 PM
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It certainly sets a precedence for Perry / Getzlaf over the summer (if they come to TO) and how much they will command.

Same can be said for Kessel.

All 3 of those players will want substantially more than a iffy-1st-2nd-liner.
Not really.

Getzlaf and Perry are going to bet paid because teams need them, not because of what Joffrey Lupul was signed for. I would also think that this signing would put to rest any idea in Leafs fans heads about signing Corey Perry. Without the backdiving deals, they could quite easily be looking close to $8m per season... that wasn't going to be changed by Lupul making $5.25m or $4.25m.

It should have a greater impact on Kessel, who I suspect the Leafs will want to tie up in the coming offseason.

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01-20-2013, 12:47 PM
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Similar risk to the Grabbo deal. Not a bad contract about right around what I thought he'd get (5x25).

Leafs need to retain their talent and reward their top players and they are showing that they are. Nonis' 1st big deal lets see if he made the right call in 5 years.

Now he's gotta lock up Kessel.

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01-20-2013, 12:48 PM
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A lot of people have to see Lupul's chemistry with Kessel before writing him off. Contract's risky but if he continues to play the same it's a solid deal.

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01-20-2013, 12:50 PM
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Fair deal.

But I am really troubled by the fact that Leaf GMs can't seem to get players signed for less.
Franson, McClement, JML all signed for below market value. What are you talking about?

Not every FA deal can be perfect.


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01-20-2013, 12:52 PM
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It certainly sets a precedence for Perry / Getzlaf over the summer (if they come to TO) and how much they will command.

Same can be said for Kessel.

All 3 of those players will want substantially more than a iffy-1st-2nd-liner.
Not happening but if it did Komi/Liles would have to go.

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01-20-2013, 12:55 PM
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Not the greatest contract if you look at his overall career history, but with the Leafs (and Kessel in particular) he's been consistently very effective, so it may well be worth it in the end. Assuming he doesn't go back to being a serious IR regular, of course.

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Why are so many 4 mil players getting paid 5 mil?

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01-20-2013, 12:57 PM
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Fair deal.

But I am really troubled by the fact that Leaf GMs can't seem to get players signed for less.
Because we're a basement hockey team in the largest hockey market.

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Why are so many 4 mil players getting paid 5 mil?
Partially inflation, a 3 million contract 4 years ago = 5 mil today, again it's and overpay with way too much term but not completely terrible

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01-20-2013, 01:02 PM
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Not happening but if it did Komi/Liles would have to go.
Even if Komisarek/Liles were to go... they have to be replaced.

The Leafs have Lupul, Grabovski & VanRiemsdyk committed to $15m for the forseeable future. Phil Kessel has 1 year left at $5.4m, then will probably be looking at around $7m. That's $22m. Even if we call Perry/Getzlaf's salaries $7.5m a piece, that's $37m committed to 6 forwards long term.... nevermind the fact that you have access to cheaper guys like Kulemin.

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01-20-2013, 01:03 PM
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Yikes. The guy has some skills, no doubt, but hardly what I'd call consistent. 50/50 chance he lives up to this deal.
I know you shouldn't judge a player on one game but Lupul looked like a "star" player last night. not a great game but he seems to have some "it" factor and he isn't reliant on Kessel

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01-20-2013, 01:09 PM
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Franson, McClement, JML all signed for below market value. What are you talking about?

Not every FA deal can be perfect.

Those players are not worth a lot are they?

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01-20-2013, 01:11 PM
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Partially inflation, a 3 million contract 4 years ago = 5 mil today, again it's and overpay with way too much term but not completely terrible
Isnt salary inflation what caused lockouts? Im gonna be glad once the owners pwn the players, again

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I like Lupul. Liked his dad more. He played for the Canucks.

Joffery has size, speed and skill . However, there has always been something missing, whether it be his focus or work ethic. He has been traded several times and that does not happen with players who are 'keepers' . Maybe once , but how many times has Lupul been traded ? More than one or 2.

But so what? If it makes Kessel happy then great right? Well, my issue is that Kessel may or may not even want to play in Toronto . If he does. Great.

But Lupul's contract is a pretty darn hefty cap hit for a guy who can tune out at any given moment . He doesnt exactly have the career history of someone who can consistently deliver.

Im not trying to 'rain' on the Leafs parade. I guess it was better than letting him walk for nothing. But I guess the whole 'rebuilding' schtick just went FLYING out the window.

Leafs commitment apparently isnt to 'youth' signing a winger at 30 to age 35. They are trying to win now.

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I like Lupul. Liked his dad more. He played for the Canucks.

Joffery has size, speed and skill . However, there has always been something missing, whether it be his focus or work ethic. He has been traded several times and that does not happen with players who are 'keepers' . Maybe once , but how many times has Lupul been traded ? More than one or 2.

But so what? If it makes Kessel happy then great right? Well, my issue is that Kessel may or may not even want to play in Toronto . If he does. Great.

But Lupul's contract is a pretty darn hefty cap hit for a guy who can tune out at any given moment . He doesnt exactly have the career history of someone who can consistently deliver.

Im not trying to 'rain' on the Leafs parade. I guess it was better than letting him walk for nothing. But I guess the whole 'rebuilding' schtick just went FLYING out the window.

Leafs commitment apparently isnt to 'youth' signing a winger at 30 to age 35. They are trying to win now.
What? Shipping Lombardi out for a pick, waiving Connolly, bringing up the Marlies, putting Kadri into an expanded role, rolling Reimer and Scrivens as our starting goalies, and you get that we're trying to win now? Uh, okay.

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