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01-20-2013, 04:03 PM
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Game #2| Jan. 20, 2013|Flyers at Sabres |12:30 p.m. ET II

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01-20-2013, 04:09 PM
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Wish one of the players or coaches would come out and bash the refs

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01-20-2013, 04:15 PM
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Wish one of the players or coaches would come out and bash the refs
They can't, they'll get fined and lose even more money this season. They won't do that. They can complain about the refs but they need to play smarter. The PK is awful so they need to straighten up on defense. Many little things can turn this around.

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01-20-2013, 04:19 PM
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Someone needs to step up and call out the pp and pk. THAT is why we lost. they are really going to steggle without practice time

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Do you not think the turning point was that stupid diving/tripping play Luke did was stupid. I understand he was limited on what to do but at 2-2 do you do that? Did he have that leafer sweater on underneith? **** about spelling.

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Just got home from the game...

First off, that waved off Fedotenko goal was pathetic. It was worse than I even expected when I saw the replay just now. Easily one of the worst calls I have ever seen.

The Luke Schenn penalty to put the Sabres on the 2 man advantage was an awful call. Was stick on stick.

Giroux is on a whole other planet.

Simmonds has been the best forward besides Giroux. He had a monster game. I said it after yesterday's game, take Schenn off the top line and slot Simmonds there.

Laughton I thought was great. Coburn was the best defensemen.

Did the winning goal go off Timonen?

Offence is scaring me. Schenn was physical I thought, but he his holding that line down. Read has had an awful two games. Briere is really missed.

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01-20-2013, 04:41 PM
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They can't, they'll get fined and lose even more money this season. They won't do that. They can complain about the refs but they need to play smarter. The PK is awful so they need to straighten up on defense. Many little things can turn this around.
Isn't the max they can get fined 2500 dollars?

If so, Bryzgalov made 2640 dollars between puck drop and the 2nd minute of the first

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01-20-2013, 04:42 PM
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Anyone else think that lavis system is holding this team back?

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You guys should've gotten at least one more goal. Tender interference on Miller was a weak call, even though I don't see Miller having "sold" it.

Second one in question I didn't get a good look on due to blackout (broadcast, not me).

The Hodgson goal was good IMO, but it could've been called either way. Then again, Hartnell coulda gotten a boarding call twice, as well.
So, tough luck after two games for you guys. I'd love to write you guys off since I don't like you, but I don't see it.

Giroux is way too good, Couturier is only getting better and once you've got Briere back, you can roll three scoring lines again. D needs upgrading, though. Replacing Pronger is not an easy thing to do, I guess.

So, good luck, but preferably not against us

Btw. that Laughton guy looked kinda good, too. What's your take on him?

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01-20-2013, 04:46 PM
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We need a pmd haha. A fast, smooth skating, offensive defensmen. We used to have one of those but he had to get paid somewhere else.

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01-20-2013, 04:49 PM
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We need a pmd haha. A fast, smooth skating, offensive defensmen. We used to have one of those but he had to get paid somewhere else.
I hear Subban is looking for a job

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Lots of bugs that need to be worked out. We just have no time to wait to fix it lol. Its hard to battle against a team when you battle the refs. Our special teams sucks, but i feel it will come around. Shockingly, Bryz isnt our biggest issue, but that may be a good thing. Im not panicing yet. I probably wont, this season was lost before the lockout (just dont think this team is there yet) and i really wanna see how these young guys improve.


And if Wayne Simmonds could actually shoot the puck he'd be a superstar. He plays the game right. I love him, but damn his hands are stone.

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01-20-2013, 05:31 PM
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just had a chance to watch both disallowed goals again because I taped the game. now that my initial anger had subsided I thought maybe I'd give it another look. the interference was horrible. then the second was bad, not just because it was a premature whistle but also because the ref (the same one that called the first goal off hmmmmm) was completely out of position to make that call in the first place, off to the side and not behind the net. when a ref makes a bad call, like the first interference disallowed goal, isn't it par for the course to let the team have the next close call in their favor?? or is the conspiracy theory of anti Philadelphia refs really true?

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01-20-2013, 06:42 PM
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Anyone else think that lavis system is holding this team back?
This isnt even lavys system anymore. They changed it up. Defense arent pitching as much. They arent playing high intensity forchecking as they usually do.

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You guys should've gotten at least one more goal. Tender interference on Miller was a weak call, even though I don't see Miller having "sold" it.

Second one in question I didn't get a good look on due to blackout (broadcast, not me).

The Hodgson goal was good IMO, but it could've been called either way. Then again, Hartnell coulda gotten a boarding call twice, as well.
So, tough luck after two games for you guys. I'd love to write you guys off since I don't like you, but I don't see it.

Giroux is way too good, Couturier is only getting better and once you've got Briere back, you can roll three scoring lines again. D needs upgrading, though. Replacing Pronger is not an easy thing to do, I guess.

So, good luck, but preferably not against us

Btw. that Laughton guy looked kinda good, too. What's your take on him?
Actually I though Couturier was just plain awful these first few games. (Goal aside)

Laugton is our first round pick from this past draft. Based on his play so far I think he sticks wit the team

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01-20-2013, 07:10 PM
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if this team plays bad like the 07 season i dont know what changes have to be made with the roster. i think it starts with the gm and the coach.

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Flyers got conned out of two goals tonight no question. Hartnell could have gotten another 10 minutes worth of penalties though. I hate him so much I wish he were a Sabre,

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if this team plays bad like the 07 season i dont know what changes have to be made with the roster. i think it starts with the gm and the coach.
We still have about 95% of the season left to play. That's not an exaggerated made up stat, that's actually about how much we have left. It's too early to get so dramatic. We aren't the only team lacking cohesion, it's just what happens when you dive into a season with minimal camp and no preseason.

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if this team plays bad like the 07 season i dont know what changes have to be made with the roster. i think it starts with the gm and the coach.
2 losses and we're already the worst team in the league? Flyers won't be a lottery pick of that I'm sure. With that said if the flyers don't make the playoffs I pretty sure Lavy is fired but I doubt that happens.

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We still have about 95% of the season left to play. That's not an exaggerated made up stat, that's actually about how much we have left. It's too early to get so dramatic. We aren't the only team lacking cohesion, it's just what happens when you dive into a season with minimal camp and no preseason.
It's never too early to be dramatic

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There are no good coaches available right now anyways

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We still have about 95% of the season left to play. That's not an exaggerated made up stat, that's actually about how much we have left. It's too early to get so dramatic. We aren't the only team lacking cohesion, it's just what happens when you dive into a season with minimal camp and no preseason.
They're also a young team, with new personnel playing with a short camp. Cohesion was bound to be poor. And it has been and that has been what cost them games. They haven't lost to a noticeable talent deficit. I'm not too worried just yet. They look like they are what I thought they were. Likely a 6 seed with an exploitable but not awful defense.



I'm watching the Rangers game. I know I'm not supposed to but I really like their team. Callahan in particular and Nash is looking like a friggin' beast.

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There are no good coaches available right now anyways
Well, unless you could convince Patrick Roy to come to us, which I'm not sure he'd want.

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2 losses and we're already the worst team in the league? Flyers won't be a lottery pick of that I'm sure. With that said if the flyers don't make the playoffs I pretty sure Lavy is fired but I doubt that happens.
actually lavy has been criticized by snider so i would say he's on the hot seat

read this article:http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Bill-...8#.UPyn35wgXys

skip to Laviolette Under Pressure to Change the System? in the article



plus if snider wants changes he will make them, he fired stevens.

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if this team plays bad like the 07 season i dont know what changes have to be made with the roster. i think it starts with the gm and the coach.
No changes need to be made if this team bombs. Our GM gets us to the playoffs every season. Our coach got us to the Stanley Cup Finals. Get a good young puck-moving defensemen, with this core, and a little experience, and we're golden. Key's to be PATIENT.

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