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02-24-2013, 11:26 AM
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To bring this thread back to the titled player, what is the news about resigning Brunner? As a Jackets fan I would love to dream about signing him to give us at least one guy who can score.
nothing beyond the Wings would like to re-sign him before the end of the regular season as far as I know

don't think the two sides have even started talking about it yet but not sure

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02-24-2013, 08:01 PM
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Send him back to EVZ. We're missing him and I bet his big nose is missing the smell of a good swiss fondue.
Don't worry, we'll pay for the shipping.

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02-24-2013, 08:06 PM
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First multi-point game. Congratulations!

2+2, 5 shots on goal. Just like at Swiss league.

It's easy when you are goooood.

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02-24-2013, 08:35 PM
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Sign him and keep him. He's a STAR!

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02-24-2013, 08:52 PM
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I say we do everything in our power to keep this kid. Not EVERYTHING of course, keep it within reason, but he's got a nose (hah) for the net that I don't think the wings have seen in a while. Its nice to have a legitimate sniper on the top line

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02-24-2013, 09:31 PM
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Kenny needs to start the negotiations on a multi-year deal. He is only going to get better as the year goes on and he continues to learn ways he can (and can't) score in the NA game. 2 yrs at 3 mil per sounds fair. Maybe 3.5 per.

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02-24-2013, 09:36 PM
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shhhhh... don't drop the h bomb. you never know if eva's lurking

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02-24-2013, 09:48 PM
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i like PP better when brunner is low and zetterberg on the point.

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02-24-2013, 09:51 PM
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Brunner is good. But i think Tatar is already a better player -- offensively, defensively and along the boards.

I wouldn't mind locking him up and then trading him when his value is highest.

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02-24-2013, 09:55 PM
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Let's see Eva explain why Hudler at 4 mil is a better investment than Brunner. It would be fun.
I don't see why we're comparing Hudler to Brunner. Hudler is my choice as an upgrade to Samuelsson/Cleary.

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02-24-2013, 10:08 PM
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Brunner is good. But i think Tatar is already a better player -- offensively, defensively and along the boards.

I wouldn't mind locking him up and then trading him when his value is highest.
I think Tatar is better too, but I think there is room for both on this team.

Honestly it sucks that we seem to have so much junk in our bottom 6 and even junk playing in our top 6, but I think right now a 3rd line of

Tatar - Sheahan - Nyquist would be pretty good in at the NHL level defensively, and have pretty good offensive chops

and even a 4th line of

Ferraro - Helm - Tootoo could be pretty damn awesome too as our crash and bang line

Unfortunately next season we probably won't even get to see some of these players on the big club yet. I secretly hope as much as I am fan of Big Bert, that he just decides to retire at the end of this season, who cares if we have to keep his cap hit for the following season as it isn't even high anymore.

Imagine if we managed to pull off the Getzlaf signing

Franzen - Getzlaf - Zetterberg
Filppula (or UFA winger if we don't resign Flip) - Datsyuk - Brunner
Tatar - Sheahan/Andersson - Nyquist
Ferraro/Abdelkader - Helm - Tootoo

I think we could be real contenders still with that lineup

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02-24-2013, 10:54 PM
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Brunner is good. But i think Tatar is already a better player -- offensively, defensively and along the boards.
i think that is probably right, but it is too early to be sure.

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02-24-2013, 10:58 PM
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Brunner is good. But i think Tatar is already a better player -- offensively, defensively and along the boards.

I wouldn't mind locking him up and then trading him when his value is highest.
Tatar is definitely better defensively and along the boards, but offensively I think they are a wash.

Tatar is more gifted with the puck and passes better, but I don't think his shot is as accurate or as hard. I think Tatar is more agile, but doesn't have Brunner's straight ahead speed either.

Honestly I think the 2 of them would probably develop some good chemistry together, and its a line combination I wouldn't mind seeing at some point.

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02-24-2013, 11:03 PM
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I wouldn't mind locking him up and then trading him when his value is highest.
Team need: top 6 goal scoring winger
Team response: acquire top 6 goal scoring winger
Reaction: trade him

Brunner is playing like a better Ryder right now. This is perfect for the Wings. Let's just enjoy the fact that him and Tatar look legit and that everybody who wanted the Wings to fall into obscurity is going to be disappointed if these two keep playing like they have been.

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02-24-2013, 11:12 PM
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Team need: top 6 goal scoring winger
Team response: acquire top 6 goal scoring winger
Reaction: trade him

Brunner is playing like a better Ryder right now. This is perfect for the Wings. Let's just enjoy the fact that him and Tatar look legit and that everybody who wanted the Wings to fall into obscurity is going to be disappointed if these two keep playing like they have been.
And that those 2 guys are only the very tip of the iceberg. What will happen when when the rest of this generation of prospects make the show (assuming that everyone else doesn't bust). We can criticize Holland as much as we want but he's set this team up well with a very good prospect pool.

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02-24-2013, 11:20 PM
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I think I was one of the few people who actually thought he was going to succeed when he came over...

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02-25-2013, 12:41 AM
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I think I was one of the few people who actually thought he was going to succeed when he came over...
I'll admit it, I thought he'd bust. Not because I saw him play or anything, but just due to the odds. What are the odds an NHL level sniper was tucked away in the Swiss league until age 26?

Well, he looks legit through 20 games. I hope he keeps it up and carves out a nice career.

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02-25-2013, 12:44 AM
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His shooting percentage is at 13.1%, which isn't really that high for a goalscorer. He's scoring because he actually shoots the friken puck. I don't see him slowing down from this pace much, if at all honestly.

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02-25-2013, 06:02 AM
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His shooting percentage is at 13.1%, which isn't really that high for a goalscorer. He's scoring because he actually shoots the friken puck. I don't see him slowing down from this pace much, if at all honestly.
Yeah, he just shoots the god damn puck with a pretty good shot. His shots per minute is at higher rate than Crosby, Tavares, Ovechkin, Parise, Kessel, Vanek, Kovalchuk, E.Staal, Zetterberg, Stamkos to name some "mediocre" comparisons.

When looking those stats deeper, his shooting rate compared to other NHLrs at Swiss league during the lockout, really doesn't differ at all when comparing that rate now against NHLrs in NHL. Only his total production is less, but that definitely comes from better goaltending in NHL.


Damien Brunner game-by-game:

1. @STL, 0+0=0p, 3 shots, +0
2. @CBJ, 0+0=0p, 6 shots, -1 (Shootout winning goal)
3. v.DAL, 1+0=1p, 6 shots, +1
4. v.MIN, 1+0=1p, 3 shots, -1
5. @CHI, 0+1=1p, 4 shots, +0
6. v.DAL, 1+0=1p, 3 shots, +1
7. v.STL, 0+1=1p, 2 shots, +2
8. @CBJ, 1+0=1p, 2 shots, -1
9. v.CGY, 0+0=0p, 3 shots, +0
10. @STL, 1+0=1p, 2 shots, +1
11. v.EDM, 0+1=1p, 5 shots, +0
12. v.LAK, 1+0=1p, 3 shots, +1
13. v.STL, 0+0=0p, 1 shot, -3
14. v.ANA, 0+1=1p, 1 shot, -3
15. @MIN, 1+0=1p, 4 shots, +1
16. @NSH, 0+0=0p, 5 shots, -1
17. v.CBJ, 1+0=1p, 4 shots, +0
18. v.NSH, 0+0=0p, 4 shots, +0
19. v.VAN, 2+2=4p, 5 shots, +1

19 games, 10+6=16 points, 66 shots (3.47 shots per game), -2 plus/minus, 15.2% shooting percentage.

He has only 2+4=6 on the power-play, 8+2=10 are made at even strength. Imo, he has potential to be a lot productive than he is now through the power-play, when we take him out from the point.


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02-25-2013, 08:19 AM
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And that those 2 guys are only the very tip of the iceberg. What will happen when when the rest of this generation of prospects make the show (assuming that everyone else doesn't bust). We can criticize Holland as much as we want but he's set this team up well with a very good prospect pool.
only problem is they never get to play

realistically we could have a half dozen NHL ready forward prospects next year(Tatar,Nyquist,Andersson,Ferarro,Sheahan,Jarnk rok)

how many of them will actually be in the lineup?

hell forget about being penciled in,will guys like Ferarro and Sheahan even get a legit shot at making the lineup?

I think we all know the answer to that one

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02-25-2013, 08:23 AM
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only problem is they never get to play

realistically we could have a half dozen NHL ready forward prospects next year(Tatar,Nyquist,Andersson,Ferarro,Sheahan,Jarnk rok)

how many of them will actually be in the lineup?

hell forget about being penciled in,will guys like Ferarro and Sheahan even get a legit shot at making the lineup?

I think we all know the answer to that one
if we are smart and we dont resign cleary and miller, buyout sammy and look to trade one of filppula or abdelkader then Nyquist, tatar and Sheahan should all be in the lineup with Jarnkrok the year after when Bertuzzi is finished

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02-25-2013, 09:33 AM
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only problem is they never get to play

realistically we could have a half dozen NHL ready forward prospects next year(Tatar,Nyquist,Andersson,Ferarro,Sheahan,Jarnk rok)

how many of them will actually be in the lineup?

hell forget about being penciled in,will guys like Ferarro and Sheahan even get a legit shot at making the lineup?

I think we all know the answer to that one
Filling out your twelve forwards with six rookies seems like a recipe for disaster.

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02-25-2013, 09:43 AM
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I'm very pleased with Brunner. When you consider he's only got 19 NHL games under his belt he's really been a great addition. I don't know if he'll ever be a great all around player but he's a goal scorer, seems to have a nose(no pun intended) for the puck and a nice wrist shot.

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