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03-04-2013, 12:18 PM
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Don't blame em'. Id ask for a trade outta here too.

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I now blame AV for creating another distraction to this team.

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Oh, AV... brilliant.

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03-04-2013, 12:20 PM
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I dont blame Ballard or AV for this.

This one has to go onto Mike Gillis for forcing AV to keep ballard and mould him into something he wasnt.

our GM should have seen he didnt fit in here and traded him somewhere where he could flourish into a top 4.

Ballard has always been the odd man out. He is not a 5th or 6th defenseman. Hes a top 4 defenseman.

What if you are a top 4 guy with nowhere to play on the top 4 ? You are a square peg in a round hole.

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Neews1130 just tweeted that Ballards agent will be calling the team in regards to Ballard.

Now if there was a deal in place or if he was hurt, this wouldn't be a step made by the agent would it?
Yeah, doesn't seem like something an agent would do if there was a trade on the table. Agent would have been notified at least.

Good for Ballard. He deserves better.

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03-04-2013, 12:21 PM
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**** this. Now we will have to pay a team to take him. Joke. Gillis needs to grab av by the balls.

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03-04-2013, 12:22 PM
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How long until AV has a quarrel with one of our more important players, forcing them to ask for a trade

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Now what little value Ballard had will be gone.

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03-04-2013, 12:26 PM
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Who'll be AV's new scapegoat?

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Good for Ballard, the way he was treated was horrible here, he deserves better

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03-04-2013, 12:27 PM
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**** this. Now we will have to pay a team to take him. Joke. Gillis needs to grab av by the balls.
I dont know what you expected AV to do. Alberts and Barker needed to get into the line up quickly . He had kept them both out all season and the trade deadline is approaching.

Why did gillis go get Garrison if Ballard is a top 4 ? This situation has been ongoing for years. Hes not a top 4 on our team. Ballard deserves to be a top 4 somewhere but it aint going to be here.

Why does it have to be where AV childishly HATES ballard . Cant we see beyond something as superficial as this?

Gillis doesnt correct AV'S childish hate by now after all these years? Mrs AV apparently is ok with him making out with Aaron Rome?

Or....................

Ballard is a smaller skill guy who is not a top 4 guy here and is too gifted and expensive to be a crashing 3rd pairing guy like cheap contracts such as Rome, Alberts and now Barker.

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03-04-2013, 12:28 PM
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Who'll be AV's new scapegoat?
AV is not using some kind of childish line of reasoning such as this. He doesnt go looking for 'scapegoats' like a high school bully.

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03-04-2013, 12:29 PM
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Poor Ballard, he's like my favourite player or one of them at least. I love that guy :<

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I dont know what you expected AV to do. Alberts and Barker needed to get into the line up quickly . He had kept them both out all season and the trade deadline is approaching.

Why did gillis go get Garrison if Ballard is a top 4 ? This situation has been ongoing for years. Hes not a top 4 on our team. Ballard deserves to be a top 4 somewhere but it aint going to be here.

Why does it have to be where AV childishly HATES ballard . Cant we see beyond something as superficial as this?

Gillis doesnt correct AV'S childish hate by now after all these years? Mrs AV apparently is ok with him making out with Aaron Rome?

Or....................

Ballard is a smaller skill guy who is not a top 4 guy here and is too gifted and expensive to be a crashing 3rd pairing guy like cheap contracts such as Rome, Alberts and now Barker.

Yeah, he is too expensive to be a 3rd pairing guy. That being said, his contract has been on the books for the past 3 years anyway and that money was sitting in the press box. It's not like he was outplayed by Alberts or anything, and honestly, Ballard isn't a big guy but he always seems to be the first guy into a scrum. He plays bigger than plenty of the other players.

I can't recall the last time we used Andrew Alberts or Aaron Rome to "keep people in check", so using them over Ballard is baffling.

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I dont blame Ballard or AV for this.

This one has to go onto Mike Gillis for forcing AV to keep ballard and mould him into something he wasnt.
our GM should have seen he didnt fit in here and traded him somewhere where he could flourish into a top 4.

Ballard has always been the odd man out. He is not a 5th or 6th defenseman. Hes a top 4 defenseman.

What if you are a top 4 guy with nowhere to play on the top 4 ? You are a square peg in a round hole.
Gillis isn't the one refusing to play Ballard-Beiksa is injured & Ballard is being scratched by the coacha top 4 dman injured another top 4 d man a healthy scratch when you are playing back to back games vs teams the scratched player has a history of playing well against.It's on the stubborn Coach not the gm.

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Just trade him already, quit letting AV torture the guy.

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03-04-2013, 12:30 PM
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Don't blame em'. Id ask for a trade outta here too.
Ballard should have asked for a trade over a year ago, and Gillis should have traded him over a year ago regardless if he asked for trade or not.

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03-04-2013, 12:31 PM
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AV is not using some kind of childish line of reasoning such as this. He doesnt go looking for 'scapegoats' like a high school bully.
He did with Hodgson's back......

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AV is not using some kind of childish line of reasoning such as this. He doesnt go looking for 'scapegoats' like a high school bully.
It's the coaches decision to decide who plays and who doesn't. He did this with Wellwood. I wouldn't want Barker ahead of me in the depth chart. You have to think about Ballard's declining self confidence. Enough is enough, this whole Ballard debacle is making me upset. We've paid him $4.2 Million to sit in a pressbox, with plugs like Barker or Alberts playing over you. It is a coaches fault.


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03-04-2013, 12:33 PM
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03-04-2013, 12:35 PM
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Good. Ballard is a NHL calibre defenceman and a nice guy. Deserves better than this crap. Organization gets what it deserves here. You reap what you sew.

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03-04-2013, 12:39 PM
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So now we HAVE to have Barker or Alberts in.

****ing Brilliant work Alain Vigneault. ****ing Brilliant.

Fire this clown already.

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03-04-2013, 12:40 PM
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Gillis isn't the one refusing to play Ballard-Beiksa is injured & Ballard is being scratched by the coacha top 4 dman injured another top 4 d man a healthy scratch when you are playing back to back games vs teams the scratched player has a history of playing well against.It's on the stubborn Coach not the gm.
Scratch tanev instead ? Hamhuis? Garrison? Who do you scratch instead?

This was the Calgary freaking flames. Not the Black Hawks. This was a perfect situation to slip Barker into the line up.

It was back to back games so ballard was only out for 2 days. It wasnt like each game was a week apart so he was out for 2 weeks.

This ongoing Ballard saga is not Ballards fault. He got put on a team where he didnt fit in. Thats also not the coaches fault.

Its not even Gillis' fault initially. But cmon, we have all been screaming for a Ballard trade for going on 2 years now so he can go play somewhere in a top 4 role and we cut down on payroll.

Gillis thinks if he hangs on long enough, he will get some kind of value for him and nobody will know the trade was a mistake. lol.

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This is a joke. At the beginning of the season when our entire defense was playing horrendous, this guy was playing like a top pairing defenseman. The minute he slips up (from putting him on the right side...), he gets put in the doghouse in favor of #7 scrubs. Just trade him already, he clearly deserves a better coach than what we have to offer

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03-04-2013, 12:44 PM
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It's the coaches decision to decide who plays and who doesn't. He did this with Wellwood. I wouldn't want Barker ahead of me in the depth chart. You have to think about Ballard's declining self confidence. Enough is enough, this whole Ballard debacle is making me upset. We've paid him $4.2 Million to sit in a pressbox, with plugs like Barker or Alberts playing over you. It is a coaches fault.
The coach puts in his #7 and #8 defensemen for ONE friggin game (two for Alberts) and you use this an EXCUSE that they are now ahead of him on the depth chart?

I guess the 18 games before where they were scratches and Ballard was in the line up was a MIRAGE to you?

A coach usually has injury problems and slides his other defensemen into the line up that way . After more than 1/3rd of the season, Barker and Alberts have no games whatsoever.

You cant go into the playoffs like that. Get them both into games now. Since there was no injury to promote this, who sits?

AV chooses ballard. I would have sat Garrison for one of them but I am not the coach.

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I dont blame Ballard or AV for this.

This one has to go onto Mike Gillis for forcing AV to keep ballard and mould him into something he wasnt.

our GM should have seen he didnt fit in here and traded him somewhere where he could flourish into a top 4.

Ballard has always been the odd man out. He is not a 5th or 6th defenseman. Hes a top 4 defenseman.

What if you are a top 4 guy with nowhere to play on the top 4 ? You are a square peg in a round hole.
Ballard has played fantastically on the bottom 6 this year. Having a top 4 D in the bottom 6 spot is a luxury for a coach, not a hinderance.

If AV seriously can't deal with having too many good players...he should go elsewhere.

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