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01-22-2013, 12:42 AM
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That Scott fella is quite the dangler. I am assuming that you are not considering that weasel Kaleta a tough guy.
Scott is a plug (much like Orr), who saw less than 2 mins of icetime. I wasn't talking about scrappers, but guys who consistently outmuscled us along the boards. It seemed like especially in the first two periods, we were also getting outhit by a fair margin. We closed the gap a bit in the 3rd when the Sabres started sitting back on their 2 goal lead. Maybe "tough" wasn't the right phrase. Gritty, maybe?

As for something unrelated.

Having just finished reading through the whole thread, I'm somewhat surprised that Liles didn't get more of a mention. I distinctly remember some of his pinches that caused some havoc around the net. He was very mobile, and created some chances.

Also, I noticed Kadri and Kessel being the first forwards back on defense on their respective lines a few times tonight. Great to see, considering the amount of flack they've gotten for the lack of their defensive game.

We need to bring our PP plans back to the drawing board. The players were way too stationary, making defensive coverage much easier for the opponents.

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01-22-2013, 12:45 AM
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How was there NOT an interference call on that buffalo second goal?

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01-22-2013, 12:47 AM
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dion played unreal his rushes in the 3rd period were unreal.

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01-22-2013, 12:48 AM
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Generally agree with most of the criticism towards Kulemin.

I'm a big Kulemin fan, but he was terrible tonight. Soft on the puck, soft on the boards, losing puck battles, and at fault for both goals.

The first goal, I think you have to get into that shooting lane.

Second goal though - you just cannot lose the puck there, and that softly.

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01-22-2013, 12:49 AM
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One thing that pisses me off is McClement is not winning his draws. He can't be going 50% or less on a regular basis because we have Steckel who could be in his position. Kadri is doing ok for his first real stint as a center, Grabo above average and Bozak kicking ass. Everyone obviously needs more games but players need to get to doing their jobs in a shortened season.

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01-22-2013, 12:50 AM
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The only goalie to blame for the loss is Miller.

That said, I'm not ready to annoint Scrivens as #1.
No doubt he is more game ready, but Reimer does need to play sooner than later because in a short season the games are only going to get more important, and quickly.
I tend to agree with those saying they would rather see Reimer start against the Islanders though, but only because he hasn't had a chance to get his game legs. Still if he is the Reimer we saw two years ago, he can handle it.

I still don't like going with these two though. I really want a veteran in the mix, regardless of if it is as starter or back-up. I think it will do more good in the long run for which ever younger goalie stays to get some veteran mentoring.

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01-22-2013, 01:00 AM
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To all of you blaming Scrivens for the loss, seriously? The first goal was a deflection off a screen shot that was going to miss the net until it hit Hodgson and went in at the last second. The second goal was a breakaway on a fluky play that came out of nowhere. Everything aside he allowed two goals, if that's insurmountable your team has some very serious offensive issues.

The blame lies on both Miller standing on his head and sloppy play up front, particular the passing game. That being said it's now Reimer's turn so we'll see what he can do.

On a lighter note, Kadri is having a monster start to the year.

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01-22-2013, 01:03 AM
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Not many are posting about Komarov... i thought he played excellent. showed some offensive flash while finishing every check
I figured he was just a pest, I was pleasantly surprised to see the hands on that guy.

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01-22-2013, 01:09 AM
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We'll blame goaltending when we start losing by 3+ goals.


Scrivens has been good enough. I feel sorry for whatever goalie is in net vs Pittsburgh though.


May God have mercy. I really hope people dont expect a low scoring game vs pittsburgh with great goaltending because Neal and Malkin are going to take a giant dump on the chest of Reimer/Scrivens, Crosby will make a joke of our AHL D-men

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How did holzer and fraser do??

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01-22-2013, 01:16 AM
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We'll blame goaltending when we start losing by 3+ goals.


Scrivens has been good enough. I feel sorry for whatever goalie is in net vs Pittsburgh though.


May God have mercy. I really hope people dont expect a low scoring game vs pittsburgh with great goaltending because Neal and Malkin are going to take a giant dump on the chest of Reimer/Scrivens, Crosby will make a joke of our AHL D-men
I'm almost certain it will be Reimer, Carlysle knows he has to be carefull with the much more inexperienced Scrivens right now and Reimer is a bit more battle tested, that and he's used to getting lit up

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01-22-2013, 01:23 AM
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Anyone hating on Scrivens can shut up. He played very well today. 1st goal was just a good bounce where a point shot hit a player and went in. 2nd goal is on Kulemin/Gunnarsson. Tough to stop a 3 on 1. Plus its questionable whether or not there should have been a penalty on Pominville for interference on Gunnar.

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01-22-2013, 01:28 AM
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We'll blame goaltending when we start losing by 3+ goals.


Scrivens has been good enough. I feel sorry for whatever goalie is in net vs Pittsburgh though.


May God have mercy. I really hope people dont expect a low scoring game vs pittsburgh with great goaltending because Neal and Malkin are going to take a giant dump on the chest of Reimer/Scrivens, Crosby will make a joke of our AHL D-men
This pittsburgh you speak of must be the greatest team in all Christendom!!

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Anyone hating on Scrivens can shut up. He played very well today. 1st goal was just a good bounce where a point shot hit a player and went in. 2nd goal is on Kulemin/Gunnarsson. Tough to stop a 3 on 1. Plus its questionable whether or not there should have been a penalty on Pominville for interference on Gunnar.
Can't blame Gunnar on that goal and it was a straight up interference that should have been called

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01-22-2013, 01:44 AM
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I say leave Bozak with Kessel and Lupul. Promote the Kadri line to 2nd line, minutes, etc..and Grabo's line is 3rd line for now.

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01-22-2013, 01:48 AM
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Phaneuf - Kostka

Gardiner/Liles - Komi

Fraser - Franson


PP1:

Kostka - Phaneuf

PP2:

Franson - Gardiner


Wouldn't mind those parings for now

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01-22-2013, 01:51 AM
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I really don't think its MacArthur's issue on that line, it's Grabovski lol. His passes are all miscalculated, that backhand pass to MacArthur was lucky as hell. He just seems to force things and is handling it like a grenade right now.

Let's hope that changes.
Really? Grabo's the problem? Have you been watching Kulemin at all?

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Plain and simple Kadri needs to be playing more asap.

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Not all faceoff wins are clean FYI. If the cneter wins the faceoff(doesn't matter how) then it's up to the wingers and D to control it.
I don't know. To me, the team that ends up with possession wins the faceoff. I don't see why a center should be awarded a faceoff win for knocking the puck in the wrong direction. Regardless, my initial point wasn't even about Grabo, I only used that particular play as an example, because it resulted in a goal, and more people were likely to remember it. Honestly, without watching the game again, it's the only one that stood out to me, as well.

The point was, our faceoff win rate for the last 2 games have been:

 vs Habsvs Sabres
Bozak43%85%
Grabo35%77%
Kadri33%54%

 vs Flyersvs Leafs
Ennis65%14%
Hodgson55%23%
Grigorenko56%57%

Many were raving about our faceoff success in the thread, but honestly watching the game, it didn't really seem like we dominated the faceoffs outside of the last 5 mins. If you look at the tables, that's a HUGE discrepancy for both teams, which I believe is the result of homer statistician votes. I was certain after our faceoff struggles vs the Habs that we'd need Steckel's expertise in the lineup tonight.

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01-22-2013, 02:00 AM
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To all of you blaming Scrivens for the loss, seriously? The first goal was a deflection off a screen shot that was going to miss the net until it hit Hodgson and went in at the last second. The second goal was a breakaway on a fluky play that came out of nowhere. Everything aside he allowed two goals, if that's insurmountable your team has some very serious offensive issues.

The blame lies on both Miller standing on his head and sloppy play up front, particular the passing game. That being said it's now Reimer's turn so we'll see what he can do.

On a lighter note, Kadri is having a monster start to the year.
Wasn't really a breakaway, it was a 3-1 turned to a 4-2 and it wasn't "fluky". Kule was soft on the puck and lost it at the blue-line.

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01-22-2013, 02:06 AM
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Wasn't really a breakaway, it was a 3-1 turned to a 4-2 and it wasn't "fluky". Kule was soft on the puck and lost it at the blue-line.
Wrong word choice on both counts. Pominville came in and took the shoot alone ahead of the defender and a defensive error led to the play happening very quickly. Regardless it was a tough save.

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Frattin, growing pains and all.
Maybe. I don't think he's any better defensively, or offensively. Unless it's a "play the kids" move, I don't see much benefit in having Frattin over Mac on the 3rd line.

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how would a Gardiner - Phaneuf pairing work?
Not good I think! Phaneuf and Gardiner are offensive players by nature, both need a defensive stalwart beside them at all times, pairing them together would lead to a lot of defensive blunders and one would have to sacfirice his game to fit the pairing.

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Bozak killed it on the faceoff circle.

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I figured he was just a pest, I was pleasantly surprised to see the hands on that guy.
Me to. When he was on the PP I was wondering why Carlyle would experiment with the line ups when we where behind with a goal but he could actually pass the puck very well.

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