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not that i know of. but andy rufener(?) was his agent that said the trade request was "solely my idea"
Might have been his idea, but IMO no way would an agent make the request without his client's blessing. It looks like the agent taking the heat for his client.
Pronman is not describing Nino's play as dynamic.He says he spoke to a scout, who described Nino's play as dynamic.
There's also a quote from a recent Friedman article, that said Nino was one of the best players in the AHL this season.
I'm gonna guess if an oppising gm wants to know how Nino's development is going, he's gonna rely on his NHL scouts and AHL coaches who've seen Nino this yr.
One scout, and really vague. I dont really see the point. He wasn't dynamic in the NHL, he was dynamic in the AHL. Its still potential. Nikita Filatov in his short stint, was pretty impressive in the AHL, despite having poor NHL numbers. Now he is in Russia.
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nino did not request a trade. in the article that crew posted, ninos agent says that the trade request was his idea, not ninos.
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Has he fired his agent?
Exactly. Agents handle the trade talk. Thats one of the reasons they are there.
Or Vis trying 3x to get out of his deal, before finally saying OK, I'll be there after my son's Feb. 9th surgery?
These have been contract issues rather than playing time dissatisfaction. Different players, different issue and at completely different points of their careers. Plus, Snow and Wang's stubbornity on such issues has resulted in a pretty poor product on the ice.
The Islanders are in a embarassing state when they have to force players that repudiate playing there into uniforms.
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The Islanders are in a embarassingly repudiated state when they have to force players to play there.
Tavares chose to sign a 6-year deal.
Moulson chose to sign a 3-year deal.
Grabner chose to sign a 5-year deal.
Okposo chose to sign a 5-year deal.
MacDonald chose to sign a 4-year deal.
Nielsen chose to sign a 4-year deal.
Martin chose to sign a 4-year deal.
Nabokov chose to re-sign for a year after originally refusing to report.
All of these players chose to commit themselves to the Island after playing there. Things can't be that bad.
Tavares chose to sign a 6-year deal.
Moulson chose to sign a 3-year deal.
Grabner chose to sign a 5-year deal.
Okposo chose to sign a 5-year deal.
MacDonald chose to sign a 4-year deal.
Nielsen chose to sign a 4-year deal.
Martin chose to sign a 4-year deal.
Nabokov chose to re-sign for a year after originally refusing to report.
All of these players chose to commit themselves to the Island after playing there. Things can't be that bad.
Mostly RFAs and reclamation projects. Little choice to leave.
Maybe Leblanc + pick but Eller alone is worth more than Nino
I'm not saying anything about Eller, but if Nino's not worth a lot, why when whisper of him being available comes out, does pretty much half the fans on the board want to acquire him?
Mostly RFAs and reclamation projects. Little choice to leave.
They may have been RFAs (Moulson and Nabokov would have been UFAs and would have been quite desirable) but they definitely had a choice not to sign a long-term contract. They could have bided their time on 1 or 2 year deals before jumping ship. Instead, they jumped right in to lock themselves in for a spot on the Island.
Maybe it was, though I'd expect Nino to be looking for new representation if that is the case.
THAT is exactly what im expecting. nino either goes public saying "rufener(?) spoke on his own and i never requsted to be traded" or he fires him for speaking out of turn.
the report that nino wants a trade is true and ryan o'rielly is still unsigned by the off season
to the isles
Ryan O'rielly
Steve Downie
the the avs
El Nino
Frans Nielsen
nino and landeskog in their prime on the same team would be a great treat for avs fans
Frans Nielsen would finally be a third line center which isles fans have been saying he needed to be for years
Ryan O'Rielly gives the isles a number 2 center that plays their style with a very appealing takeaway stat
steve downie is kinda a throw in, but will help improve the isles bottom 6
You are assuming O'Reilly would sign with the Islanders. I'm not sure I'd do that if I were Colorado.
Maybe Leblanc + pick but Eller alone is worth more than Nino
Eller is a safer choice for becoming a solid NHLer, but Nino has far more upside. Other than Gally, the Habs don't have any youngsters in their organization with that type of offensive upside.
Leblanc + pick wouldn't be close to what the Isles could get for Nino, unless it was a top 10 pick, and in that case, I'd rather the Habs hold on to it.
THAT is exactly what im expecting. nino either goes public saying "rufener(?) spoke on his own and i never requsted to be traded" or he fires him for speaking out of turn.
If Nino's agent did that without his consent, he should have been fired right after it happened. Apparently this request happened around training camp and somehow() leaked.
I watched Mark in Montreal..his defense was atrocious at best...so don't tell me Weber's defense is so bad....simply not true....as i said he is miles ahead of Streit ever was at 100 game mark ...
Weber has only played 109 games......30 pts
Mark Streit first 128 nhl games 47 pts.
Again Weber needs more than avg 13-15 mins a night..and he needs to be be played at defense not at forward....just stupid.
Again Carbo and Martin did STREIT and Weber no favors......
What a ridiculous statement! Me too, I saw him play in Montreal and he was rarely playing on defense! He was use most of the time as a fourth liner thanks to Guy Carbonneau. And because of that, when he was playing on defense, which was rare, he had all the pression in the world to not make a single mistake because he knew he would be back on the fourth line. Not an ideal environment to succeed. The only time he was playing "defense" was during the pp.
When he became UFA, one of his request was to be use only as a defenseman. And it seems that only the Islanders gave him that insurance.
Thank you Guy Carbonneau!
These have been contract issues rather than playing time dissatisfaction. Different players, different issue and at completely different points of their careers. Plus, Snow and Wang's stubbornity on such issues has resulted in a pretty poor product on the ice.
The Islanders are in a embarassing state when they have to force players that repudiate playing there into uniforms.
They may have been RFAs (Moulson and Nabokov would have been UFAs and would have been quite desirable) but they definitely had a choice not to sign a long-term contract. They could have bided their time on 1 or 2 year deals before jumping ship. Instead, they jumped right in to lock themselves in for a spot on the Island.
Nabakov did exactly that. He signed a one year deal. The others (bar Moulson, who is intelligently staying in a good situation) were RFAs. Tavares, Grabner, Okposo and Martin will all be UFAs and all be under 30 when their deals expire. That entire young core of the Islanders have left themselves with the option to walk away in their prime. I hardly call that career commitment.
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Haha. I also like the Catch-22 reference in the username.
One scout, and really vague. I dont really see the point. He wasn't dynamic in the NHL, he was dynamic in the AHL. Its still potential. Nikita Filatov in his short stint, was pretty impressive in the AHL, despite having poor NHL numbers. Now he is in Russia.
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Filatov's a Russian, having no adjustment issues playing at home.
Nino is a Swiss kid, who is signed to an NHL contract. The KHL stopped Vis from playing in NHL games because of his NHL contract.Also, 20 yr old Nino wants to play in international tournaments for his country. Unlike 36 yr old Vis, Nino cares about avoiding a suspension from the IIHF.
Below are comments from Elliotte Friedman. I hope they are not as vague
26. I got a lot of requests on Sunday for updates on prospects. More of that than anything else. So I emailed two NHL guys who have great AHL eyes and asked them to let me know who they liked. They weren't shy. Both agreed on (NHL team in parenthesis): Nino Niederreiter (NYI), Tomas Tatar (DET), Jason Zucker (MIN), Justin Schultz (EDM), Oliver Ekman-Larsson (PHO), Richard Panik & Tyler Johnson (TB), Jake Gardiner (TOR).
27. Executive A said he could've done two or three players per team, but cut down to: Jordan Eberle (EDM), Brayden Schenn (PHI), Brock Nelson (NYI), Nazem Kadri (TOR), Justin Faulk (CAR), Gustav Nyquist (DET), Roman Horak, Sven Baertschi & Barry Brust (CAL), Robin Lehner (OTT) and Curtis McElhinney (CLB).
Snow has shopped his high lottery picks. According to Strang, offering those picks for a 20-22 yr old, with similar upside.
So, yeah, we can say Snow would want a young player who fits into his rebuild. One who's development is 2-4 yrs ahead of Snow's draft pick.
Trading 20 yr old Nino for an undrafted 17/18 yr old, is the exact opposite of what Snow's tried to do the last few yrs.
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I dunno, it seems a number of people in this thread grasped what the Islanders would be looking for. A prospect/young player of comparable value. If a pick or something smallish is necessary to even out the value, that's fine, but the Islanders would be looking for the bulk of the value to be from one prospect/young player, I doubt we'd be looking to move him for a quantity type offer. Neither the late first rounder or Savard would be of comparable value to Nino, so that would make it the quantity type offer we'd be looking to avoid. It's not that the value wouldn't be fair, but I agree with Crew that it's not what management would be looking for.
However, despite what Crew says above, if CBJ put their own 1st rounder on the table, I'm sure Garth would listen.
Yep I get all this but Savard or Erixson plus a first-round pick (even if it's not the best/highest of the three the CBJ hold) is not a quantity-for-quality offer. I know NYI has rounded out its blueline but either of those guys would be a welcome addition, I'd think.
And I'll stop before this becomes one of those "my offer is good you're a dummie" posts. Not my intent.
Again, I don't think Isle will or should trade Nino, but I'd hope Howson/Davidson would be in on it with some combo of the aforementioned pieces available. If they were to get outbid, so be it.
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