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01-23-2013, 02:45 PM
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Why just not try Hartikainen as 2nd C when Jones comes back. He was drafted as a C and played C in finnish Elite league?

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01-23-2013, 02:47 PM
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Actually, O'Reilly would be perfect. I just don't know what the Oilers have to offer up to Colorado. Maybe Smid.
Smid is a UFA at the end of this season.

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01-23-2013, 02:48 PM
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So who would be the easiest to acquire out of this list?

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01-23-2013, 02:53 PM
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Paul Gaustad? Nashville has several of the same players in Legwand, Fisher and Spaling. Good defensively and on the dot, not necessarily a "2nd" but a 2b.

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01-23-2013, 02:58 PM
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Bolland - CHI has little reason to move him
Dubinsky - Not really playing center, but CBJ keeps him for now.
Galyenchuk - price might be too high for him though ( I agree with this).
Jarett Stoll - I like this idea, but Stoll is more of a 3rd liner. Would like him as he could be used on the PP on the point with his shot.
Kyle Brodziak - Means too much to Minny at that price.
Hanzel - Doubtful
Bozak - Maybe dealt later in the year, but no reason right now.
Steen? - not physical but prob an improvement on Gagner..
Brooks Liach. - Not sure what cost would be.

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01-23-2013, 02:59 PM
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Paul Gaustad? Nashville has several of the same players in Legwand, Fisher and Spaling. Good defensively and on the dot, not necessarily a "2nd" but a 2b.
Pass he's a 4th line center making 3.25mil

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01-23-2013, 03:03 PM
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Paul Gaustad? Nashville has several of the same players in Legwand, Fisher and Spaling. Good defensively and on the dot, not necessarily a "2nd" but a 2b.
Do you want your second line center only scoring low teens in goals - I'm talking 12? To me, he is a third liner at best, but mostly a fourth line guy.

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Do you want your second line center only scoring low teens in goals - I'm talking 12? To me, he is a third liner at best.
Considering our first line scores around 20 a 2nd line with 12 would probably be peachy.

Gaustad wouldn't be brought in to score goals for EDM they need defense and someone who'll win a draw. The only reason Gaustad's a no.3 on Nashville is Legwand and Fisher,
and Nashville is a better overall club then Edmonton.

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01-23-2013, 03:09 PM
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I'll toss Umberger's name out there. Played center off and on in CBJ. Was generally 50% on draw, plays PK, generally lead forwards in blocked shots, healthy, 20g-20a last 4 years.

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Considering our first line scores around 20 a 2nd line with 12 would probably be peachy.

Gaustad wouldn't be brought in to score goals for EDM they need defense and someone who'll win a draw. The only reason Gaustad's a no.3 on Nashville is Legwand and Fisher,
and Nashville is a better overall club then Edmonton.
He played a 4th line role for them last year with only 11 minutes in the playoffs.

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Big, defensively solid #2 centers are prohibitively expensive these days.

I think Oilers would probably be better off trying to switch Hemsky for a big, physical winger that's good enough to play on a second line. Perhaps Laich/Malone.

Hemsky/Gagner/Yakupov is fun to watch, but they seem to be a 1 goal for/2 goals against type of line.

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01-23-2013, 03:22 PM
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If you're not picky, someone like Stajan/Antropov/etc could probably be had for cheap.

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01-23-2013, 03:24 PM
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He played a 4th line role for them last year with only 11 minutes in the playoffs.
He came in as a new addition and I believe he was injured at one point too. He certainly wasn't going to come in without playing with any of the new teammates and usurp Legwand or Fisher.

Nashville loves to roll 4 equal lines, I'd be very comfortable with Legwand, Fisher, Spaling, and Gaustad playing the 1st line if injuries were to occur.

Edmonton needs defense and doesn't have the same depth we do.

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Ryan O'Reilley + Avs 1st round 2013 for Jordan Eberle

I know Oilers wont do it but the Avs would only be interested in players that are deemed untouchable.

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I would ask if Edmonton would want Connolly for free but if that was the case they could have picked him up on waivers.
If they somehow acquired someone like Kesler, I'd be looking out for Edmonton.
It would take an untouchable of the Oilers to get Gillis to send Kesler inside the division

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If you're not picky, someone like Stajan/Antropov/etc could probably be had for cheap.
I've suggested Antropov in the past, with yak it could make sense

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He came in as a new addition and I believe he was injured at one point too. He certainly wasn't going to come in without playing with any of the new teammates and usurp Legwand or Fisher.

Nashville loves to roll 4 equal lines, I'd be very comfortable with Legwand, Fisher, Spaling, and Gaustad playing the 1st line if injuries were to occur.

Edmonton needs defense and doesn't have the same depth we do.
Even in Buffalo he didn't play a top 6 role. He is a guy you get to replace Horc or Belanger not Gagner.

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01-23-2013, 03:40 PM
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Even in Buffalo he didn't play a top 6 role. He is a guy you get to replace Horc or Belanger not Gagner.
Fine, just thought he'd be a good fit.

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Could try going after a guy like Mark Letesu or Derrick Brassard. Anything better than Horc.
In theory, Letestu is available. In practice, we'd like to keep that depth handy.

And Brassard is as "tradable" as Gagner right now: we wouldn't mind trading him, but we're looking for an upgrade at that position, which renders it impractical to do so.

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What would it take to get Dubinsky out of Columbus? Would Dubnyk be of any interest to them?
He's playing wing, not center here. He does not presently qualify as "available". And Dubnyk is... not of interest, to put it mildly. What we'd look for there is a skilled winger...

...and as G-d is my witness I swear if anyone here dares try to run with that and come up with a two-for-one with us losing two guys and getting Hemsky I will DEVOUR YOUR SOUL.

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I'll toss Umberger's name out there. Played center off and on in CBJ. Was generally 50% on draw, plays PK, generally lead forwards in blocked shots, healthy, 20g-20a last 4 years.
Umby's going through hard times, so expect a few Jackets fans to say "yes, please, take him". Don't listen to them. They're crazy.

That said, he's significantly better on the wing than at center.


The simple truth of the matter is that we're presently making use of all the forward depth we have and are not in a position to spare any. Ask us again when we have Eberle/Hall type guys on the roster (or when Attaboy and Johan get there ).

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this is why it was we smart for Edmonton to trade Yarkipov for 2 second line players....a center plaus a winger or vet dman.

I do think Phiily could be an interesting trade partner with Brierre (though he likely blocks it).

Another possible team would be Boston after the season because of the serious cap issues. they will need to unload some contracts to get below the cap.
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If only Phoenix didn't like Martin Hanzal so much. Literally a perfect fit.

Could try going after a guy like Mark Letesu or Derrick Brassard. Anything better than Horc.
If Hanzal was acquired for lets say Gagner+, my guess is that a few weeks later, folks may feel a little offense from that 2C position (than Hanzal's ~35 points average provides) would be more desirable, especially when considering he'd be centering dynamic wingers like Yakupov, Hall or Eberle.

With Horcoff, IMO, likely to be bought out this summer, the best course of action may be to leave Gagner in place and find a replacement 3C for Horcoff by dangling Hemsky in the trade market this TDL.

Perhaps Derrick Brassard is that target -- a relatively cheap 3C acquisition with 2C upside.

And then fill the hole left by Hemsky's departure by internal promotion (young wingers Hartikanen or Paajarvi) or UFA market (top six wingers are typically more available than top six centers).

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Perhaps Derrick Brassard is that target -- a relatively cheap 3C acquisition with 2C upside.
This evaluation is why a deal is not going to be made.

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Okay just for conversation purposes, lets ASSUME that the Oilers traded Gagner.

So here is my questions. What #2Cs are available around the league that the Oilers could acquire to replace Gagner if he were traded.

And what would it take to get them? (obviously you wouldn't trade hall,ebs,rnh,yak, or shultz for a 2C...).

Im more interested in a bigger centre, doesnt need to be all star caliber, just someone who can play between Yak and Hemsky and through the body around a bit.
Better start drafting defenceman and goaltenders cause after what i seen last night this team is terrible!

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Big, defensively solid #2 centers are prohibitively expensive these days.

I think Oilers would probably be better off trying to switch Hemsky for a big, physical winger that's good enough to play on a second line. Perhaps Laich/Malone.

Hemsky/Gagner/Yakupov is fun to watch, but they seem to be a 1 goal for/2 goals against type of line.
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What about something like paajarvi + for plekanec ??? That would be good for both team ...

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