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01-23-2013, 03:27 PM
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Please explain a better deal for Perry who will be unsigned if he wants out of Anaheim?
Perry could be traded to Vancouver for instance for Booth, Jensen, First in 2013 and second in 2013/14 etc. As an example obviously this is likely a huge underpayment.

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01-23-2013, 03:29 PM
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Please explain a better deal for Perry who will be unsigned if he wants out of Anaheim?
Listen, if Perry can't be signed before trade deadline, he can be traded for much better package than Hartnell + 2nd.

Like I said, I like Hartnell but his contract doesn't make sense for Ducks.

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your fanship has been revoked. lol

Really dude? Perry for Hartnell... Many other teams would offer far greater value regardless if Perry is a rental or not.

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01-23-2013, 03:32 PM
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your fanship has been revoked. lol

Really dude? Perry for Hartnell... Many other teams would offer far greater value regardless if Perry is a rental or not.
Take into consideration wed also be losing our 1st dsp for a 2nd -.-

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01-23-2013, 03:32 PM
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What if perry agrees to sign with your team laundry?
Then I'd most certainly do it. I'm not entirely sure it would make sense as a deadline deal though because the Flyers offense typically isn't the problem (you wouldn't know it from these first three games) and if they're making the playoffs this year, it certainly won't be because of the team defense. The Flyers would probably make a deal at the deadline to bolster their defense for a playoff run, not to ship out someone with proven chemistry with Giroux (albeit for an upgrade from Hartnell)

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01-23-2013, 03:33 PM
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I don't see how this deal makes Anaheim any better in the future or the present. They lose...


- 40 to 50 goal scorer in Perry (Up coming UFA)
- Prospect in DSP who could fill a void left on the second line.
- First in a deep draft


for...


- A good player but not someone you build around in Hartnell
- 2nd round pick



I fail to see the good in this. Don't get me wrong I like Hartnell but you do not build your team around him he is a guy you bring in to support your core.

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01-23-2013, 03:33 PM
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Im confused why are we trading our 1st(in a deep draft) and dsp + perry?
For a guy that who had a good year but could potentially go back to less then 50 point seasons away from giroux?

Ill pass... ill trade perry for a package of prospect/picks like kovalchuck/hossa and hope our scouts do a good job with the picks.

that is just terrible from a ducks perspective.
This would be my main concern. We see it all of the time, but no one ever seems to consider these things. I understand it is hard to quantify, but it still should be considered.

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01-23-2013, 03:33 PM
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So if Anaheim expects to lose Getzlaf, Koivu and Selanne, then they will trade Perry to make Hartnell their teams centerpiece?
Hartnell on the Ryan line. Don't think they would mesh? I think they would

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01-23-2013, 03:35 PM
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Im confused why are we trading our 1st(in a deep draft) and dsp + perry?
For a guy that who had a good year but could potentially go back to less then 50 point seasons away from giroux?

Ill pass... ill trade perry for a package of prospect/picks like kovalchuck/hossa and hope our scouts do a good job with the picks.

that is just terrible from a ducks perspective.
Kovy was signing long term bro... We won't get that for an unsigned Perry. Your dreaming if we could pull that off.

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01-23-2013, 03:36 PM
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Perry (even unsigned) > Hartnell
1st > 2nd
DSP > nobody

Typically team paying for the rental buy at a premium in these situaitons.
As a fan of niether team, I have to agree with this.

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01-23-2013, 03:38 PM
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Hartnell on the Ryan line. Don't think they would mesh? I think they would
Hartnell stats are good beacuse of giroux... Last season he was an over achieving 20-25 goal scorer on the basis of giroux play making ability.

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01-23-2013, 03:40 PM
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Take into consideration wed also be losing our 1st dsp for a 2nd -.-
Were on pace for a playoff run with Winnik being acquired according to Yahoo. Our draft pick will be bad. So this is a non argument if true.

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Hartnell on the Ryan line. Don't think they would mesh? I think they would
he probably would mesh with whoever he is with, i just think Anaheim could get more that Hartnell and a 2nd.

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01-23-2013, 03:41 PM
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Kovy was signing long term bro... We won't get that for an unsigned Perry. Your dreaming if we could pull that off.
Wed def get better then your offer... you trading a top 5 RW(i dont care the contract situation), a 1st and a decent prospect for a 20-25 goal scorer with gritt and a 2nd?

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your fanship has been revoked. lol

Really dude? Perry for Hartnell... Many other teams would offer far greater value regardless if Perry is a rental or not.
Dude you are over valuing our players man. This is PERRY unsigned.

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01-23-2013, 03:41 PM
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Is Perry for 1st + Matt Read fair?
Conditional 1st maybe. If he signs fine if not the 1st becomes something else (another pick?). Bad decent prospect could be added from the flyers too (that wouldn't be conditional).

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01-23-2013, 03:45 PM
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he probably would mesh with whoever he is with, i just think Anaheim could get more that Hartnell and a 2nd.
I told posters to add or subtract. If fans think we can pull more then that's fine. Make your proposal with Hartnell included. Use him as center piece

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01-23-2013, 03:45 PM
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Were on pace for a playoff run with Winnik being acquired according to Yahoo. Our draft pick will be bad. So this is a non argument if true.
My bad forgot winnik was going to score 96 goals and lead us to a 48-0 record and onward to the cup... yahoo where i go for my hockey knowledge. We drafted Rikard rakell with a 30th pick, emerson etem with a 29th pick, kyle palmeiri a 26th, gibson with a 39th, and vatanan with a 106th pick plus others in late 1st round+... but ya the draft pick will be bad.

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01-23-2013, 03:50 PM
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Hartnell stats are good beacuse of giroux... Last season he was an over achieving 20-25 goal scorer on the basis of giroux play making ability.
Oh god really? Really now? Let me guess blaming top 6 minutes is your next argument.

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01-23-2013, 03:54 PM
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Oh god really? Really now? Let me guess blaming top 6 minutes is your next argument.
Go look at his stats he broke 30goals twice and 50 points twice in 11 seasons. Season before last he had 24 goals 25 assist thats more of the player he is.

Its not arguments its facts, hes not a consistant 30/60guy hes a consistant 25/45ish guy over achieving at last seasons stats because of his center.

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01-23-2013, 03:54 PM
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[QUOTE=Ducksgo;58168217]I told posters to add or subtract. If fans think we can pull more then that's fine. Make your proposal with Hartnell included. Use him as center piece[/QUOT

Perry +3rd For Hartnell + 1st + 2nd

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Conditional 1st maybe. If he signs fine if not the 1st becomes something else (another pick?). Bad decent prospect could be added from the flyers too (that wouldn't be conditional).
don't think that would work, at best you might be able to get some sort of swap of 2nds if he re-signs.

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01-23-2013, 03:56 PM
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My bad forgot winnik was going to score 96 goals and lead us to a 48-0 record and onward to the cup... yahoo where i go for my hockey knowledge. We drafted Rikard rakell with a 30th pick, emerson etem with a 29th pick, kyle palmeiri a 26th, gibson with a 39th, and vatanan with a 106th pick plus others in late 1st round+... but ya the draft pick will be bad.
Wow all for whom we wish would prosper to pull 37 goals in the NHL and be healthy for a full 2 82 games seasons. Signed long term no bs contract negotiations....

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01-23-2013, 04:01 PM
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Wow all for whom we wish would prosper to pull 37 goals in the NHL and be healthy for a full 2 82 games seasons. Signed long term no bs contract negotiations....
His career average is 22 goals a season... without giroux he could go back to a 22 goal scorer... wed lose perry our 1st and dsp who could potentially become a 22 goal scorer with almost the same play style to hartnell

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01-23-2013, 04:02 PM
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Hartnell stats are good beacuse of giroux... Last season he was an over achieving 20-25 goal scorer on the basis of giroux play making ability.
And Perry's stats are good because he played with Getzlaf and Ryan

This is the second time Hartnell has scored 30+, and the first time Giroux had nothing to do with it. (Perry has "only" scored 30+ 3 times). If you're going to characterize Hartnell as an over achieving 20-25 goal scorer, then I don't want to EVER hear you characterize Perry as a 40-50 goal scorer, he's an overachieving 30 goal scorer. He'll likely never approach 50 again.

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