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01-24-2013, 09:38 AM
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Good for Sneep, I assume he'll have a better shot in Houston. Doesnt neccessarily indicate more moves are on the way though. He got a cup of coffee last year and this year hes AHL depth/ECHL starter. Let him get a shot somewhere else to work his way up?


Kolarik for Ferriero sounds like we want a good AHL scorer because we want the Baby Pens to do better, and the Rangers probably want a guy that can be depth for thier NHL team. He played enough for the Sharks Im sure he can be a fourth line guy for Torts in a pinch.

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With the Pens D-prospects and them faltering lacking forward presence this only makes sense to bolster the offense in, WBS.

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01-24-2013, 09:51 AM
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Somebody needs to update the 2nd round draft pick bust sheet. Another one bites the dust.

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01-24-2013, 10:21 AM
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Good moves. Now let's go big. Let's get Subban. Orpik, Despres and Pouliot should get it done.

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01-24-2013, 10:35 AM
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Good moves. Now let's go big. Let's get Subban. Orpik, Despres and Pouliot should get it done.

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Not sure if I want that attitude on our team. Good player but always puts himself first

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01-24-2013, 10:51 AM
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Not sure if I want that attitude on our team. Good player but always puts himself first
And people wanted Semin.

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i'm crushed. i'm probably this board's biggest Sneep enthusiast. those in the know will know it was his ACT score that brought him down.

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01-24-2013, 10:55 AM
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I love how the ESPN New York reporter has to cite anonymous sources for the Kolarik/Ferriero trade -- a full half-hour after the team already announced it on its official web site.
she was the Islanders' former beat writer. not surprising how the quality of one's reportage takes a hit after joining ESPN

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01-24-2013, 11:07 AM
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I think Ferriero can be serviceable when/if he's called up. Wouldn't count on him sticking, but he won't be a train wreck when he's in the lineup.
He was a train wreck in Wilkes Barre. I guess this is what it took to stop Hynes from force feeding him ice time.

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01-24-2013, 11:19 AM
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He was a train wreck in Wilkes Barre. I guess this is what it took to stop Hynes from force feeding him ice time.
Exactly. Point is, he obviously didn't fit this system. Doesn't take away that he's a decent NHL tweener.

Which is something the Pens don't need. Hopefully Kolarik is what Shero thought Smith would be. We need an AHLer scorer to place with the young guys to kick up the offensive production.

Not sure where he fits yet, since he seems like a smaller guy with a questionable defensive game. Wouldn't want to pair him with BB except for the PP.

Would laugh and call Shero a genius if this guy can become gold on the PP and Morrow starts ripping them into the net....I'm being very optimistic here

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But....but....Shero sucks.

He got nothing for Strait.....wasted 3rd round pick

And now....

He got a conditional 7th for a 2nd round pick.

Geeeeeeeez how does this guy still have a job?!
The irony is he got something, albeit very little (nothing if Sneep doesn't see NHL games), for Sneep, while nothing for Strait. I would have thought it would have been the opposite, with Strait garnering at least a conditional pick, and Sneep being given away for free.

If Dallas wanted to take a chance on a defenseman, why Sneep and not Strait?

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01-24-2013, 11:20 AM
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It's a conditional 7th round pick.

EDIT: We only get the pick if he plays 10 or more regular season games in Dallas.
This is about as close to "for a bag of pucks" as you can get.

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Not sure if I want that attitude on our team. Good player but always puts himself first
There are some people who believe that, and then there are others who say the exact opposite.

He's a player you win with, that's all I know. Our team could use a little personality, too. We've become extremely bland.

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01-24-2013, 11:22 AM
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2006 NHL Entry Draft 2nd Round

31 Tomas Kana (Centre) Czech Republic St. Louis Blues HC Vítkovice (Czech Republic)

32 Carl Sneep (Defence) United States Pittsburgh Penguins Brainerd High School (USHS-MN)

33 Igor Makarov (Right Wing) Russia Chicago Blackhawks Krylia Sovetov (Russia)

34 Michal Neuvirth (Goaltender) Czech Republic Washington Capitals HC Sparta Praha (Czech Republic)

35 Francois Bouchard (Right Wing) Canada Washington Capitals (from Boston) Baie-Comeau Drakkar (QMJHL)

36 Jamie McGinn (Left Wing) Canada San Jose Sharks (from Columbus) Ottawa 67's (OHL)

37 Yuri Alexandrov (Defence) Russia Boston Bruins Severstal Cherepovets (Russia)

38 Bryce Swan (Right Wing) Canada Anaheim Ducks (from New York Islanders via Vancouver) Halifax Mooseheads (QMJHL)

39 Andreas Nodl (Right Wing) Austria Philadelphia Flyers (from Phoenix) Sioux Falls Stampede (USHL)

40 Ondrej Fiala (Centre) Czech Republic Minnesota Wild Everett Silvertips (WHL)

41 Cory Emmerton (C/LW) Canada Detroit Red Wings (from Phoenix via Florida and Philadelphia) Kingston Frontenacs (OHL)

42 Michael Ratchuk (Defence) United States Philadelphia Flyers (from Los Angeles) US National Team Development Program (NAHL)

43 Riley Holzapfel (Centre) Canada Atlanta Thrashers Moose Jaw Warriors (WHL)

44 Nikolai Kulemin (Winger) Russia Toronto Maple Leafs Metallurg Magnitogorsk (Russia)

45 Jeff Petry (Defence) United States Edmonton Oilers Des Moines Buccaneers (USHL)

46 Jhonas Enroth (Goaltender) Sweden Buffalo Sabres (from Vancouver) Södertälje SK (Sweden)

47 Shawn Matthias (Centre) Canada Detroit Red Wings (from Phoenix via Tampa Bay and Philadelphia) Belleville Bulls (OHL)

48 Joey Ryan (Defence) United States Los Angeles Kings Quebec Remparts (QMJHL)

49 Ben Maxwell (Centre) Canada Montreal Canadiens Kootenay Ice (WHL)

50 Milan Lucic (Left Wing) Canada Boston Bruins (from Edmonton) Vancouver Giants (WHL)

51 Nigel Williams (Defence) United States Colorado Avalanche US National Team Development Program (NAHL)

52 Keith Seabrook (Defence) Canada Washington Capitals (from Anaheim) Burnaby Express (BCHL)

53 Mathieu Carle (Defence) Canada Montreal Canadiens (from San Jose) Acadie-Bathurst Titan (QMJHL)

54 Artem Anisimov (Centre) Russia New York Rangers Lokomotiv Yaroslavl (Russia)

55 Denis Bodrov (Defence) Russia Philadelphia Flyers HC Lada Togliatti (Russia)

56 Blake Geoffrion (Left Wing) United States Nashville Predators US National Team Development Program (NAHL)

57 Mike Weber (Defence) United States Buffalo Sabres Windsor Spitfires (OHL)

58 Alexander Vasyunov (Left Wing) Russia New Jersey Devils Lokomotiv Yaroslavl (Russia)

59 Codey Burki (Centre) Canada Colorado Avalanche (from Calgary) Brandon Wheat Kings (WHL)

60 Jesse Joensuu (Winger) Finland New York Islanders (from Dallas) Ässät (Finland)

61 Simon Danis-Pepin (Defence) Canada Chicago Blackhawks (from Ottawa) University of Maine (NCAA)

62 Dick Axelsson (Winger) Sweden Detroit Red Wings Huddinge IK (Sweden)

63 Jamie McBain (Defence) United States Carolina Hurricanes US National Team Development Program (NAHL)

See above. Highlighted in blue is anyone who has made any kind of showing in the NHL. Highlighted in purple are guys who'd be backup goalie, top four defenseman, top six forward type impact, likely even on the Pens.

Another Shero 2nd rounder bites the dust . . .

Lucic, Kulemin, McGinn, Anisomov . . .

10 out of 30 guys are regular NHL guys making varying levels of real to significant impact.

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01-24-2013, 11:24 AM
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Another Shero 2nd rounder bites the dust . . .
upcoming poll: worst Shero (and for that matter Penguins going back to the late 80s) 2nd round bust. it's a brutal list

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The irony is he got something, albeit very little (nothing if Sneep doesn't see NHL games), for Sneep, while nothing for Strait. I would have thought it would have been the opposite, with Strait garnering at least a conditional pick, and Sneep being given away for free.

If Dallas wanted to take a chance on a defenseman, why Sneep and not Strait?
I don't believe Shero ever offered Strait up for a trade. The idea was that Strait would pass through waivers and we would keep him (at least I hope that's what the intention was). Shero took a risk and lost.

As a side note, I don't think Sneep is as bad as most people on here do.

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There are some people who believe that, and then there are others who say the exact opposite.

He's a player you win with, that's all I know. Our team could use a little personality, too. We've become extremely bland.
ya I'd take Subban in a heartbeat. Obviously it depends on the cost in both assets and actual salary but in general he's a player I would love to have on our team.

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upcoming poll: worst Shero (and for that matter Penguins going back to the late 80s) 2nd round bust. it's a brutal list
This one might be it when you consider the alternatives. One third of that round had guys making a major or significant impact. Another five are/were regulars in bottom roles in the league.

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There are some people who believe that, and then there are others who say the exact opposite.

He's a player you win with, that's all I know. Our team could use a little personality, too. We've become extremely bland.
Agreed.

Only problem with your trade proposal is that Orpik isn't headed to Montreal.

If you wanted to say Niskanen and Despres and something, then I could see that.

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2006 NHL Entry Draft 2nd Round

31 Tomas Kana (Centre) Czech Republic St. Louis Blues HC Vítkovice (Czech Republic)

32 Carl Sneep (Defence) United States Pittsburgh Penguins Brainerd High School (USHS-MN)

33 Igor Makarov (Right Wing) Russia Chicago Blackhawks Krylia Sovetov (Russia)

34 Michal Neuvirth (Goaltender) Czech Republic Washington Capitals HC Sparta Praha (Czech Republic)

35 Francois Bouchard (Right Wing) Canada Washington Capitals (from Boston) Baie-Comeau Drakkar (QMJHL)

36 Jamie McGinn (Left Wing) Canada San Jose Sharks (from Columbus) Ottawa 67's (OHL)

37 Yuri Alexandrov (Defence) Russia Boston Bruins Severstal Cherepovets (Russia)

38 Bryce Swan (Right Wing) Canada Anaheim Ducks (from New York Islanders via Vancouver) Halifax Mooseheads (QMJHL)

39 Andreas Nodl (Right Wing) Austria Philadelphia Flyers (from Phoenix) Sioux Falls Stampede (USHL)

40 Ondrej Fiala (Centre) Czech Republic Minnesota Wild Everett Silvertips (WHL)

41 Cory Emmerton (C/LW) Canada Detroit Red Wings (from Phoenix via Florida and Philadelphia) Kingston Frontenacs (OHL)

42 Michael Ratchuk (Defence) United States Philadelphia Flyers (from Los Angeles) US National Team Development Program (NAHL)

43 Riley Holzapfel (Centre) Canada Atlanta Thrashers Moose Jaw Warriors (WHL)

44 Nikolai Kulemin (Winger) Russia Toronto Maple Leafs Metallurg Magnitogorsk (Russia)

45 Jeff Petry (Defence) United States Edmonton Oilers Des Moines Buccaneers (USHL)

46 Jhonas Enroth (Goaltender) Sweden Buffalo Sabres (from Vancouver) Södertälje SK (Sweden)

47 Shawn Matthias (Centre) Canada Detroit Red Wings (from Phoenix via Tampa Bay and Philadelphia) Belleville Bulls (OHL)

48 Joey Ryan (Defence) United States Los Angeles Kings Quebec Remparts (QMJHL)

49 Ben Maxwell (Centre) Canada Montreal Canadiens Kootenay Ice (WHL)

50 Milan Lucic (Left Wing) Canada Boston Bruins (from Edmonton) Vancouver Giants (WHL)

51 Nigel Williams (Defence) United States Colorado Avalanche US National Team Development Program (NAHL)

52 Keith Seabrook (Defence) Canada Washington Capitals (from Anaheim) Burnaby Express (BCHL)

53 Mathieu Carle (Defence) Canada Montreal Canadiens (from San Jose) Acadie-Bathurst Titan (QMJHL)

54 Artem Anisimov (Centre) Russia New York Rangers Lokomotiv Yaroslavl (Russia)

55 Denis Bodrov (Defence) Russia Philadelphia Flyers HC Lada Togliatti (Russia)

56 Blake Geoffrion (Left Wing) United States Nashville Predators US National Team Development Program (NAHL)

57 Mike Weber (Defence) United States Buffalo Sabres Windsor Spitfires (OHL)

58 Alexander Vasyunov (Left Wing) Russia New Jersey Devils Lokomotiv Yaroslavl (Russia)

59 Codey Burki (Centre) Canada Colorado Avalanche (from Calgary) Brandon Wheat Kings (WHL)

60 Jesse Joensuu (Winger) Finland New York Islanders (from Dallas) Ässät (Finland)

61 Simon Danis-Pepin (Defence) Canada Chicago Blackhawks (from Ottawa) University of Maine (NCAA)

62 Dick Axelsson (Winger) Sweden Detroit Red Wings Huddinge IK (Sweden)

63 Jamie McBain (Defence) United States Carolina Hurricanes US National Team Development Program (NAHL)

See above. Highlighted in blue is anyone who has made any kind of showing in the NHL. Highlighted in purple are guys who'd be backup goalie, top four defenseman, top six forward type impact, likely even on the Pens.

Another Shero 2nd rounder bites the dust . . .

Lucic, Kulemin, McGinn, Anisomov . . .

10 out of 30 guys are regular NHL guys making varying levels of real to significant impact.
Most of those you highlighted were forwards. Forwards are just not how Shero rolls.

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01-24-2013, 11:34 AM
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The irony is he got something, albeit very little (nothing if Sneep doesn't see NHL games), for Sneep, while nothing for Strait. I would have thought it would have been the opposite, with Strait garnering at least a conditional pick, and Sneep being given away for free.

If Dallas wanted to take a chance on a defenseman, why Sneep and not Strait?
Well i really doubt they want Sneep for there NHL team, and if they claimed Strait, they couldn't send him down to the AHL

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Most of those you highlighted were forwards. Forwards are just not how Shero rolls.
Sid says 'thanks'.

And, lest we forget, he did take a forward in the first round that year, the next year (2007), and 2010. Saying 'forwards isn't how he rolls' isn't close to as accurate as saying 'he prefers to take defensemen in the second and third rounds'.

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See above. Highlighted in blue is anyone who has made any kind of showing in the NHL. Highlighted in purple are guys who'd be backup goalie, top four defenseman, top six forward type impact, likely even on the Pens.

Another Shero 2nd rounder bites the dust . . .

Lucic, Kulemin, McGinn, Anisomov . . .

10 out of 30 guys are regular NHL guys making varying levels of real to significant impact.
You might add Joensuu in blue : 60 games in NHL, should be playing this year but is currently injured.

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You might add Joensuu in blue : 60 games in NHL, should be playing this year but is currently injured.
Oops . . . 10 out of 30 with real or more significant impact. 6 more out of 30 who have been or are NHL regulars.

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Sid says 'thanks'.

And, lest we forget, he did take a forward in the first round that year, the next year (2007), and 2010. Saying 'forwards isn't how he rolls' isn't close to as accurate as saying 'he prefers to take defensemen in the second and third rounds'.
Crosby was Patrick right? Though I do not doubt Shero would have taken him if he was handling the draft. Well 99% sure anyways.

Edit 2007 was Esposito. I blocked him out, but yes he did go forward.

2010 also.

That said, Shero's preference for defensemen absent almost having his hand forced is undeniable and it shows in the organization.

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