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01-24-2013, 12:54 PM
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Sarcasm?

Sneep shouldn't even be considered an "asset". He held no value, and basically took up a contract spot.

And what's the % of players picked in the 7th round that turn out to be NHL regulars? Not like even if we get that 7th there's a chance we gain an asset.
Probably about the same as our second rounders who become regulars

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01-24-2013, 12:59 PM
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Oh, well. You don't like Steve MacIntyre and I don't like P.K. Subban.
One is good at hockey and the other is not.

I don't like Subban one bit, but I'd ****ing love that guy on the Penguins.

Mind you that is the pipiest of all pipe dreams. This team can't afford to pay both Letang and Subban huge deals come 2014.

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01-24-2013, 01:02 PM
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One is good at hockey and the other is not.

I don't like Subban one bit, but I'd ****ing love that guy on the Penguins.

Mind you that is the pipiest of all pipe dreams. This team can't afford to pay both Letang and Subban huge deals come 2014.
i'd have to agree.

i'm still miffed about his pirouette crap from a few seasons ago, taking out opposing players' legs/feet. he directly caused Jordan Staal's first real NHL injury and that lead to a weird chain of injuries, taking him out for about half a season.

still, he's a really good d-man and i'd love it if he played for the Pens. i just don't love what the Pens would potentially be giving up for a rental d-man. just like the Staal situation, i wouldn't expect anyone to trade for him unless they knew he'd re-sign.

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01-24-2013, 01:03 PM
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Probably about the same as our second rounders who become regulars



....and why is this thread turning into a Subban love/hate fest?

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01-24-2013, 01:22 PM
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[QUOTE=Dangles78;58221951]Sarcasm?

Sneep shouldn't even be considered an "asset". He held no value, and basically took up a contract spot.

And what's the % of players picked in the 7th round that turn out to be NHL regulars? Not like even if we get that 7th there's a chance we gain an asset.[/
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Rangers fan in peace... some vezina winner named King Henrik from last season was a 7th round pick...

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01-24-2013, 01:33 PM
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I put Orpik in there because a) I think Therrien would like more players that play/know his system, and b) we could really use losing a salary. That said, I have no problem dealing Niskanen instead. Niskanen, Pouliot and Jeffrey then.
You really think that package could get us Subban? Maybe last year with Gauhier as their GM but not now, Habs could do much better IMO

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01-24-2013, 01:41 PM
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Subban is a "ME" first type of player. We need a "team" first type of player.

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Am I the only one happy that we now have a legitimate AHL scoring center?
Isn't Kolarik a right winger?

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01-24-2013, 01:44 PM
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Oh, well. You don't like Steve MacIntyre and I don't like P.K. Subban.
Steve MacIntyre is a terrible hockey player. I have nothing against him other than that.

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Subban is a "ME" first type of player. We need a "team" first type of player.
What do you have to support this claim?

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Steve MacIntyre is a terrible hockey player. I have nothing against him other than that.
Yeah plus he's a terrible hockey player.

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01-24-2013, 02:01 PM
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Yeah plus he's a terrible hockey player.
Don't forget he's also a terrible hockey player. Seems like a decent guy otherwise.

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Steve MacIntyre is a terrible hockey player. I have nothing against him other than that.
He might be a terrible player, but he's arguably the best fighter in hockey.

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He might be a terrible player, but he's arguably the best fighter in hockey.
Best fighter in hockey? Sure. Not in the NHL though. Because nobody wants him on their NHL team. Because he is really terrible at hockey.

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He might be a terrible player, but he's arguably the best fighter in hockey.
And what's that?

Oh that's right - Completely irrelevant in todays NHL.

He can fight bears in his spare time and win 100/100 times and still be a god-awful hockey player and have no value or use whatsoever in hockey.

His kind is useless, just lose the dream of pure fighters having a spot.

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And what's that?

Oh that's right - Completely irrelevant in todays NHL.

He can fight bears in his spare time and win 100/100 times and still be a god-awful hockey player and have no value or use whatsoever in hockey.

His kind is useless, just lose the dream of pure fighters having a spot.
Why do think the Atlantic Division has been getting more enforcers/toughness lately? Fights help create momentum, enforcers are used to protect star players. They are also great in the locker-room with the players.

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Why do think the Atlantic Division has been getting more enforcers/toughness lately? Fights help create momentum, enforcers are used to protect star players. They are also great in the locker-room with the players.
We have had enforcers for Sid's entire career. How have they done protecting him? Do you think he's more likely to be hurt this year because we don't have an enforcer compared to every other year he got hurt while we did have one? How did Godard do at preventing the circus that was long island a few years ago?

star players get hurt during hockey plays. Even the cheapest of cheap shots happen during hockey plays. There is absolutely nothing an enforcer can do to stop it. Does Steckel still hit Crosby with MacIntyre on the bench? Absolutely. Does Myers still fall on Geno's knee? Absolutely. Hell, would Vitale have laid that hit on Briere to end last season if Jody Shelly was on the bench? Of course he would have. He would have done it if Shelly was on the ice.


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Why do think the Atlantic Division has been getting more enforcers/toughness lately? Fights help create momentum, enforcers are used to protect star players. They are also great in the locker-room with the players.
Enforcers never fight the guys that would actually be able to hurt star players since they aren't good enough at hockey to be on the ice against them. Also, the great locker room thing is so silly. It's like you are talking about a dog. "He's really good with the kids".

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We have had enforcers for Sid's entire career. How have they done protecting him? Do you think he's more likely to be hurt this year because we don't have an enforcer compared to every other year he got hurt while we did have one? How did Godard do at preventing the circus that was long island a few years ago?
What? Do you expect Eric Godard to fight every player who was involved in the NYI brawl a few years ago?

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What? Do you expect Eric Godard to fight every player who was involved in the NYI brawl a few years ago?
No. I don't. That's my point. There is nothing a single guy can do to stop things like that. The pure enforcer is useless in today's NHL. Guys like Engo and Asham are the best guys to have to fill that role today. They need to be able to play a regular shift.

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What? Do you expect Eric Godard to fight every player who was involved in the NYI brawl a few years ago?
No but you have yet to prove how having an enforcer actually protects star players. It sounds nice and all, but there is no evidence to back it up.

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Enforcers never fight the guys that would actually be able to hurt star players since they aren't good enough at hockey to be on the ice against them. Also, the great locker room thing is so silly. It's like you are talking about a dog. "He's really good with the kids".
Well, from what I've heard, they certainly are. Players on the team have a lot of respect for them.

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No. I don't. That's my point. There is nothing a single guy can do to stop things like that. The pure enforcer is useless in today's NHL. Guys like Engo and Asham are the best guys to have to fill that role today. They need to be able to play a regular shift.
I agree, but sometimes when you have a super-heavyweight like Steve MacIntyre. Some pest/grinders are afraid to play physical against the star players.

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Well, from what I've heard, they certainly are. Players on the team have a lot respect for them.
they have a lot of respect for guys like Adams and Glass too. And Crosby and Malkin. They aren't respected above the rest of the team.

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that is one example. that is not proof.

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I agree, but sometimes when you have a super-heavyweight like Steve MacIntyre. Some pest/grinders are afraid to play physical against the star players.
with the instigator rules and everything today, most of them aren't. There is nothing Cooke or Talbot wants more than for a guy from the other team to come and punch him so he can skate away and add a penalty on top of whatever **** he was already stirring up.

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