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01-30-2013, 05:26 AM
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Main Card (PPV):
Featherweight Championship Bout: Jose Aldo (c) vs Frankie Edgar
Heavyweight Bout: Alistair Overeem vs Antonio Silva
Light Heavyweight Bout: Rashad Evans vs Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
Welterweight Bout: Jon Fitch vs Damien Maia
Flyweight Bout: Joseph Benavidez vs Ian McCall

Preliminary Card (FX):
Lightweight Bout: Gleison Tibau vs Evan Dunham
Welterweight Bout: Tyron Woodley vs Jay Hieron
Lightweight Bout: Jacob Volkmann vs Bobby Green
Lightweight Bout: Yves Edwards vs Isaac Vallie-Flagg

Preliminary Card (Facebook):
Bantamweight Bout: Chico Camus vs Dustin Kimura
Bantamweight Bout: Edwin Figueroa vs Francisco Rivera

What a ****ing card. I'm excited.

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01-30-2013, 10:42 AM
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Then maybe one of you guys wouldnt mind taking over and tallying the results for everyone for the year?
Cry me a ****ing river. He asked for opinions so we gave it. I really don't care what we do but I'd prefer to pick them all.
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Im not interested in guessing who will win in matches between fighters who Ive never seen before and never heard of. Where is the fun in that?

Picking from the main cards for the most part will have fighters people are familiar with, making it much more interesting imo. Yes you may have cards where multiple guys end up with similar results, but if you stretch that out over 12 months, there will be separation. Its already starting to happen after two or three cards.

I really dont see what the attraction is with picking fights on the undercards.
Not our fault that you don't follow the sport as closely as some of us do. There's only 3 fighters on this card that I've never seen fight. But again, I really don't care what we do for the pick'em.

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01-30-2013, 05:13 PM
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I don't know if the not knowing fighters on the under card argument holds much weight, we aren't talking about Bellator here. Sure, the odd under card is like that but are we really so occupied that we can't reference a fight finder?

Even last weekends free card had almost an entire undercard of guys we've all seen fight. Upsets on the main card are rare, it's just going to turn into a bunch of similar picks for every event.

What a great main card, that Bw fight will be explosive. I think Uncle Creepy will stay upright and do better than most think.

Been reading a lot about the magical Fitch sub denfense, I'm not sure that strategy will work as well for him here. As Joe Rogan would say, Maia is at another level, he is a black belt of black belts.

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01-30-2013, 05:35 PM
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Putting all picks in in case pick'em changes


Main Card (PPV):
Featherweight Championship Bout: Jose Aldo (c) vs Frankie Edgar
Heavyweight Bout: Alistair Overeem vs Antonio Silva
Light Heavyweight Bout: Rashad Evans vs Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
Welterweight Bout:Jon Fitch vs *Damien Maia*
Flyweight Bout: Joseph Benavidez vs Ian McCall

Preliminary Card (FX):
Lightweight Bout: Gleison Tibau vs Evan Dunham
Welterweight Bout: Tyron Woodley vs Jay Hieron
Lightweight Bout: *Jacob Volkmann vs Bobby Green
Lightweight Bout: Yves Edwards vs Isaac Vallie-Flagg

Preliminary Card (Facebook):
Bantamweight Bout: Chico Camus vs Dustin Kimura*
Bantamweight Bout: Edwin Figueroa vs Francisco Rivera

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01-30-2013, 05:50 PM
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I thought we agreed to it since it helps out Northstarsforever?

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01-31-2013, 07:54 AM
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Cry me a ****ing river. He asked for opinions so we gave it. I really don't care what we do but I'd prefer to pick them all.
Is that a no? Big surprise there.

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Not our fault that you don't follow the sport as closely as some of us do. There's only 3 fighters on this card that I've never seen fight. But again, I really don't care what we do for the pick'em.
On THIS card. There is a card pretty much every week these days. Quite a few of them have undercards with local fighters nobody or very few people have ever seen fight before or even heard of.

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01-31-2013, 07:56 AM
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I thought we agreed to it since it helps out Northstarsforever?
It appears nobody really gives much of a **** about helping out Northstarsforever. They all want the undercards to count but not one of them is willing to step forward to tally the results. Predictable, but still sad and pathetic.

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01-31-2013, 08:21 AM
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As someone whose helped with the tallying in the the past, one way to help the guy doing it is to stick to the original post format when submitting. The posts that are out of order or don't follow the standard format are a bigger pain than doing extra fights. Most people who've posted so far in this thread have been pretty good about it but it's not always the case.

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As someone whose helped with the tallying in the the past, one way to help the guy doing it is to stick to the original post format when submitting. The posts that are out of order or don't follow the standard format are a bigger pain than doing extra fights. Most people who've posted so far in this thread have been pretty good about it but it's not always the case.
Completely agree. Don't tally any Scores for the posters who sway from that order.

I didn't even know what was going on, I never check into the pick'em thread. If all he needs is help I will help tally events when he needs a break, just pm me. All the time liquor wastes pissing & moaning would tally an event.

Northstar I'm a bean counter so it won't bother me at all, just let me know. Want me to do this one?

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01-31-2013, 08:58 AM
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I thought we agreed to it since it helps out Northstarsforever?
I'd rather just actually help him out, all this is doing is reducing his load, nobody is actually helping him.

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Is that a no? Big surprise there.



On THIS card. There is a card pretty much every week these days. Quite a few of them have undercards with local fighters nobody or very few people have ever seen fight before or even heard of.
Actually, I'll gladly help tally the results. All he has to do is ask.

2nd part of your post isn't true at all. The UFC doesn't fill their cards with local fighters and looking back at cards this past year, there was usually 2-3 fighters I'd never seen fight before.
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It appears nobody really gives much of a **** about helping out Northstarsforever. They all want the undercards to count but not one of them is willing to step forward to tally the results. Predictable, but still sad and pathetic.

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01-31-2013, 10:07 AM
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Featherweight Championship Bout: Jose Aldo (c) vs Frankie Edgar - UD
Heavyweight Bout: Alistair Overeem vs Antonio Silva
Light Heavyweight Bout: Rashad Evans vs Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
Welterweight Bout: Jon Fitch vs Damien Maia
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01-31-2013, 12:28 PM
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Featherweight Championship Bout: Jose Aldo (c) vs Frankie Edgar (UD)
Heavyweight Bout: Alistair Overeem vs Antonio Silva
Light Heavyweight Bout: Rashad Evans vs Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
Welterweight Bout: Jon Fitch vs Damien Maia
Flyweight Bout: Joseph Benavidez vs Ian McCall

I'm fine with whatever is decided and would also have no problem with tallying an event here and there.

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01-31-2013, 03:23 PM
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Actually, I'll gladly help tally the results. All he has to do is ask.

2nd part of your post isn't true at all. The UFC doesn't fill their cards with local fighters and looking back at cards this past year, there was usually 2-3 fighters I'd never seen fight before.

Why should he have to ask?

Maybe you should volunteer?

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If people want the undercards included for the PPVs I will gladly tally an event here and there to help shoulder the load.

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It appears nobody really gives much of a **** about helping out Northstarsforever. They all want the undercards to count but not one of them is willing to step forward to tally the results. Predictable, but still sad and pathetic.
I don't think it's fair for you to call everyone out for not volunteering to help northstars when your main reason for not wanting to include the undercards is first and foremost simply because you don't want to.

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01-31-2013, 06:04 PM
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If people want the undercards included for the PPVs I will gladly tally an event here and there to help shoulder the load.


I don't think it's fair for you to call everyone out for not volunteering to help northstars when your main reason for not wanting to include the undercards is first and foremost simply because you don't want to.
Lol.

Yes, there cant be more than one compelling reason to any position.

Helluva argument youve got there.

I couldnt care less what is decided tbh. I do find it amusing that not one person who is whining about including undercards has volunteered to tally the results full time, or for the entire year.

Let the other guy do it!

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I'll do the undercards if North does the main...Or we can rotate.

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What about this. Main and pre-lims for Fox and PPV cards, and then just the main card for the FX/Fuel cards? Don't bother with Facebook fights at all. The more "obscure" fighters tend to be on the undercards of the FX/Fuel cards as well as the Facebook fights and this would limit the amount of tallying to a degree while still keeping enough fights to create some separation.

Another idea to make the tallying easier, how about having a separate thread for each event solely for making picks with another thread such as this one for discussion of the fights? Would make it A LOT easier to tabulate as there would be no searching for fight picks among the posts. Not sure if that would be a bandwidth issue or not.


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Featherweight Championship Bout: Jose Aldo (c) vs Frankie Edgar- SD- I think this fight could be very similar to both fights Edgar had against Bendo and IMO, Edgar at the very least won the 2nd fight.
Heavyweight Bout: Alistair Overeem vs Antonio Silva- Going with the big upset here that I'll probably regret. Overeem's a great striker and Silva's big head is a massive target, but I just get this feeling that Overeem is going to underestimate Silva, get caught and Silva is going to get on top of him and finish him. Maybe that's just what I want to see...
Light Heavyweight Bout: Rashad Evans vs Antonio Rogerio Nogueira- Lil 'Nog really only has a puncher's chance in this fight and even then I don't give him much.
Welterweight Bout: Jon Fitch vs Damien Maia- Aside from the main event I'm looking forward to this fight the most, hopefully it doesn't disappoint. If this fight spends a significant amount of time on the ground I think Maia will catch Fitch at some point.
Flyweight Bout: Joseph Benavidez vs Ian McCall

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Lightweight Bout: Gleison Tibau vs Evan Dunham
Welterweight Bout: Tyron Woodley vs Jay Hieron
Lightweight Bout: Jacob Volkmann vs Bobby Green
Lightweight Bout: Yves Edwards vs Isaac Vallie-Flagg

Preliminary Card (Facebook):
Bantamweight Bout: Chico Camus vs Dustin Kimura
Bantamweight Bout: Edwin Figueroa vs Francisco Rivera


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I would be very surprised if Bigfoot survives the first round. Overeem is absolutely looking past him and he said this is a warm up fight for him. Normally that might be a cause for concern but I don't think Bigfoot is close to Overeem's level.

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I would be very surprised if Bigfoot survives the first round. Overeem is absolutely looking past him and he said this is a warm up fight for him. Normally that might be a cause for concern but I don't think Bigfoot is close to Overeem's level.
I hope it ends quickly. Not sure any of the other fights will. This could be a long night. Let's hope they keep it entertaining throughout.

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Featherweight Championship Bout: Jose Aldo (c) vs Frankie Edgar
Heavyweight Bout: Alistair Overeem vs Antonio Silva
Light Heavyweight Bout: Rashad Evans vs Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
Welterweight Bout:Jon Fitch vs Damien Maia
Flyweight Bout: Joseph Benavidez vs Ian McCall

Preliminary Card (FX):
Lightweight Bout: Gleison Tibau vs Evan Dunham
Welterweight Bout: Tyron Woodley vs Jay Hieron
Lightweight Bout: *Jacob Volkmann vs Bobby Green
Lightweight Bout: Yves Edwards vs Isaac Vallie-Flagg

Preliminary Card (Facebook):
Bantamweight Bout: Chico Camus vs Dustin Kimura
Bantamweight Bout: Edwin Figueroa vs Francisco Rivera

I don't really think that Lil'Nog will win but I like him too much to pick against him. He could possibly win if they keep it standing and he avoids a big punch from Rashad. He could pull off a sub too but I'd be surprised to see that happen.

I'm not real confident in Edgar winning either but again too big of a fan to pick against him. Based on past fights, if it's close and goes the distance, Frankie likely loses even if he shouldn't. Judges don't seem to like him. Maybe just a coincidence though.

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Silva has the biggest head on a guy I have ever seen. He is a huge man no denying that - but that head is from a different era. That head is Ice Age material... that dude has some neanderthals on the branches of his family tree...

anyway I don't know how one hurts such an impressive cranium...

then you have Overeem... his head looks like someone put a tight elastic on the very summit...

these are two of the stranger looking heads...

the alien vs the caveman.

my favourite fight on this card is Fitch vs. Maia... see if Maia can keep his momentum at WW.

This card aint half bad. Woodley/Hieron is interesting to me too.

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I think you accidentally called Fitch - Maia a fight.


I hope those guys do some damage. Not even asking for a lot, just some damage. Iwant to see someone in serious trouble at least once in that fight.

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it has snoozer potential but i think Maia will get the tap....

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