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01-31-2013, 10:48 AM
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Antro/Poni should be followed by moving Kovy back to LW. The ZZZ line was effective, so just swap ZP with IK.

Kovalchuk - Zajac - Zubrus
Elias - Henrique - Clarkson
Poni - Josefson - Antropov
Carter - Gionta - Bernier

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01-31-2013, 11:15 AM
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not sure I want more Toronto hand me downs. We're like a .400 success rate with them historically.

Thomas
Andreychuk
Gilmour
Zezel
Ellett
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01-31-2013, 11:29 AM
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not sure I want more Toronto hand me downs. We're like a .400 success rate with them historically.

Thomas - went to toronto after jersey
Andreychuk
Gilmour
Zezel
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Mogilny - went to toronto after jersey then back
Hutchison
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Nieuwendyk - went to toronto after jersey
Ponikorovski
Antropov?
three of these guys went to the laughs after they where devils, one came back.
So the numbers look a little better maybe?
but poni was good for us, so maybe the tide is turning.

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01-31-2013, 11:36 AM
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three of these guys went to the laughs after they where devils, one came back.
So the numbers look a little better maybe?
but poni was good for us, so maybe the tide is turning.
Nieuwendyk is the only one I mistook as being a leaf prior. I thought he went to the Stars from the Leafs and Calgary before for some reason (thinking of Gilmour is my guess). Thomas and Mogilny 2.0 as well as the rest were all leafs before a Devil. Thomas started his career in Toronto then went back after being a Devil.

Thus my take on late career former leafs. Antropov isn't that far gone but is slowing down in production. But he is friggin' huge...

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01-31-2013, 11:39 AM
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Mogilny wasn't that bad in his return to Jersey (25 pts in 34 games). It was just bad timing with Elias coming back and clashing with Captain Crankypants.

Actually one of the few times I was pissed at Lou for having a player like him end his career in the AHL.

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01-31-2013, 11:51 AM
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01-31-2013, 11:56 AM
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If Stastny is being dealt, it means Colorado is out of the running and I can't see Volchenkov waiving his NTC in that situation. Plus I don't know why Colorado would dump a 6+ mil player to bring in a 4+ mil player.
Because money isn't a issue for them and they'd rather have a d-men at 4M$ per to solidify their weakest area instead of a 6M$ per 3rd line center cause ROR and Duchene are #1 and #2?

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forgot about stumpy starting in toronto, my bad.

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Isn't it our turn to take Aaron Ashem?

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01-31-2013, 12:11 PM
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Stastny hasn't cracked 60 points in two years. Since Duchene and Landeskog broke out, Stastny's numbers have dipped. He's a good player, but nearly 7 mil is a bit much for me. Maybe next year as a rental.
Same goes for Zajac.

And I was wrong, Stastny has 3 70 pt seasons in his career.

Now I don't know the situation out there, to explain why his production has dropped the last 2 years, or even how good he is in his own zone, but the guy has ability, he is 27 yrs old, and again, a much more accomplished offensive player then Zajac.

Now pro-rated we are talking about 3 mil for this season, and 6.6 next. We have plenty of cap space.

Guy sounds like a no brainer.

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01-31-2013, 12:15 PM
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Because money isn't a issue for them and they'd rather have a d-men at 4M$ per to solidify their weakest area instead of a 6M$ per 3rd line center cause ROR and Duchene are #1 and #2?
You're forgetting that the Devils and the Avalanche aren't the only two teams in the NHL. Someone else offers better than Volchenkov.

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01-31-2013, 12:17 PM
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You're forgetting that the Devils and the Avalanche aren't the only two teams in the NHL. Someone else offers better than Volchenkov.
This is true. Toronto wants a center badly. Phoenix would kill to have PS. The list goes on.

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Because money isn't a issue for them and they'd rather have a d-men at 4M$ per to solidify their weakest area instead of a 6M$ per 3rd line center cause ROR and Duchene are #1 and #2?
Yup, they like us are way under the cap.

I googled the situation and there were tons of trade speculation regarding Stastny this offseason. Now Stastny and the Av's are off to a terrible start. Gotta believe those rumors will spark back up. If D is there weakness,(taking your word for it) then it's a perfect match.

Don't see Volch alone being nearly enough. IF Stastny is available, teams will be interested. Prob, Volch, D prospect(Urbom?), maybe a 2nd-3rd rnder.

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01-31-2013, 12:26 PM
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Yandle for Stasty does make some sense

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You're forgetting that the Devils and the Avalanche aren't the only two teams in the NHL. Someone else offers better than Volchenkov.
I'm not saying that Anton++ is the best deal that Colorado can fetch for Stastny, and I'm certain it isn't btw, but if it were to happen, the Avs are looking for a left handed shutdown d-men to pair with EJ.

I was just trying to say that a contract would have to go the other way, so we wouldn't be taking his entire 6.6M$ per contract, that's all.

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01-31-2013, 12:44 PM
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Stastny would be perfect, but I don't think we are willing to give up the pieces to get a deal done. They would want a better Dman than we are willing to give up plus 2 out of 3 of the following: Top 9 Forward/1st/D Prospect.

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Stastny would be perfect, but I don't think we are willing to give up the pieces to get a deal done. They would want a better Dman than we are willing to give up plus 2 out of 3 of the following: Top 9 Forward/1st/D Prospect.
He would be pretty scary with Kovy because of his Stastny playmaking skills.

I am sure this will be a massive NO but i throw it out there anyway.

In a deal for Stastny seeing how he is only 27 years old and they would want something for the future back why not send them Volch/Tally + Josefson for Stastny + 3rd?

I know we all LOVE Yayo and its a risk because Stastny is a UFA after next season, plus he already makes 6.6 so dunno if he will want a raise. But thats a deal that could get it done i think. Then our center depth becomes Stasny Zajac Henrique. If Henrique moves to wing then you can find a 3rd line center pretty easier id bet off some team of UFA if needed.

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He would be pretty scary with Kovy because of his Stastny playmaking skills.

I am sure this will be a massive NO but i throw it out there anyway.

In a deal for Stastny seeing how he is only 27 years old and they would want something for the future back why not send them Volch/Tally + Josefson for Stastny + 3rd?

I know we all LOVE Yayo and its a risk because Stastny is a UFA after next season, plus he already makes 6.6 so dunno if he will want a raise. But thats a deal that could get it done i think. Then our center depth becomes Stasny Zajac Henrique. If Henrique moves to wing then you can find a 3rd line center pretty easier id bet off some team of UFA if needed.
I'm in on massive no. for a couple reasons.

1)as u mentioned Stastny is a FA after next year.

2)his #'s have been down, the team has been crappy, and fan's target him as a guy whom they are not so psyched about. So even though he's a proven 20 g scorer, Av's are not trading from a great position of strength. Especially since he is a UFA after next year.

3)the reason we are looking at Stastny is because we are so thin at fwd, especially young ones. So while trading a JJ to get a Stastny is an upgrade (offensively at least) it does not improve our depth. And we would all like to think JJ is on the verge of a breakout. To the point where he could be pushing 20g's(or at least 15) in the not to distant. So I think I'd void this deal.

Now we will have to see what the market looks like, but if Av's are demanding a young proven NHL'r , I'd throw Fayne's name out there.

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If the team really is in "win now" mode, is it possible they are showcasing Matteau for some reason? That would explain why he wasn't immediately sent back to junior. To a lesser extent, are they showcasing Josefson playing him at wing with TZ and Kovy?

Maybe Lou really is looking for a Kovy-esque package around someone like Perry. As a pending UFA, does Volch + Josefson + 2nd get it done? Or if you went all out for Ryan, Volch + Josefson + Matteau + 2nd or 3rd?

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I demand for playoff stud Ryder!!
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If the team really is in "win now" mode, is it possible they are showcasing Matteau for some reason? That would explain why he wasn't immediately sent back to junior. To a lesser extent, are they showcasing Josefson playing him at wing with TZ and Kovy?

Maybe Lou really is looking for a Kovy-esque package around someone like Perry. As a pending UFA, does Volch + Josefson + 2nd get it done? Or if you went all out for Ryan, Volch + Josefson + Matteau + 2nd or 3rd?
I wouldn't consider trading a forward prospect unless we were getting a perry-type player back. We simply cannot afford to. We have no good forward prospects and barely enough to put in our NHL lineup lol.

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I wouldn't consider trading a forward prospect unless we were getting a perry-type player back. We simply cannot afford to. We have no good forward prospects and barely enough to put in our NHL lineup lol.
Dont need prospects right now if your entire team is steady


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so apparently Tedenby has yet to report to Alabny

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