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01-28-2013, 05:31 PM
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Pitt - Car Trade again?

Wonder if Pitt would be willing to trade again with us?

Thinking we might be able to snag Niskanen or Despres.

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01-28-2013, 05:34 PM
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would love to pry niskanen from them, loved him back in his days in the Dallas system, but havent paid much attention to him since he ended up in Pitt. not sure how he has been doing, so not sure if he would help or not, or what it would take.

dont know much about despres at all

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01-28-2013, 05:53 PM
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It's worth mentioning that we're fairly deep on NHL-capable D, we just badly need another top 4 talent.

Also worth mentioning that almost every team needs D, and those with a good amount of talent and depth have accrued it for a reason (to make a deep run in the playoffs) and aren't interested in moving their Dmen for fair value.

I don't know if we could pry a defenseman from a playoff team with what is kind of a meh defense outside of Letang.

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Couple of problems with this.

1) Niskanen may be injured for however long. Let the Pens get back to you on this tomorrow.

http://triblive.com/sports/penguins/...#axzz2JIvwiRzC

2) Niskanen performs very well and reliably on the top pairing. He is actually downright outstanding so far, but you may or may not have to expect a slight downward turn if you are not pairing him with a player the quality of Letang.

3) Considering the position he plays for us right now and how well he does it, the Pens would need a young bonafide top6 forward back to make it worth their while. Like not Tlusty, Dwyer, Dalpe, etc.

4) Most of what is true for Niskanen is true for Despres, who does not have the same big role this season, but is hopefully regarded as the longtime solution next to Letang.
He is not injured, but his availability may be influenced by Niskanen´s health.

5) If I could interest you in a bottom pair guy, most of us would get rid of Lovejoy just to take the option of actually playing him of the table for Bylsma. Probably not though, since numbers do not seem to be the problem.

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01-28-2013, 08:41 PM
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I was actually wondering a few days back if Ruutu was available. Though since he's injured, I really dont see anyone else that we could use.

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I was actually wondering a few days back if Ruutu was available. Though since he's injured, I really dont see anyone else that we could use.
Jussi may be our most attractive right now, but he is sitting at our 3C spot to give the 3rd line some scoring ability.

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It's worth mentioning that we're fairly deep on NHL-capable D, we just badly need another top 4 talent.
Who's our 8th guy?

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01-28-2013, 08:58 PM
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Who's our 8th guy?
Marc-Andre Gragnani. Another offensive defenseman

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Wonder if the Leafs would be interested in a deal for Dion?

If they are looking to rebuild and prospects?

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Marc-Andre Gragnani. Another offensive defenseman
Yeesh, I forgot about him. Yeah, I guess we theoretically run 8 deep... but I wouldn't want to see it.

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Its a little funny that Niskanen is a likeable target. Before he was traded to Pitt, I was soundly laughed off this board for suggesting we find a way to get Niskanen. At the time his stock was low and he was being destroyed by Marc Crawford but he had been really good and had all the tools.

Regardless, we have seen several opportunities to add decent dmen to solidify the group of 6 and JR passes on it every damn time whether its a low level free agent who is solid or whether its missing out on a minor trade like Fistric for a 3rd rounder. Despite the price, there was absolutley no reason to bring back Corvo for the role he was going to serve. It was just easier because he wanted to come back.

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01-29-2013, 08:07 AM
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Who's our 8th guy?
Could argue that Jordan could be right there with Gragnani, he's a bit more defense oriented of those two, though still on the non-physical offensive side of the equation.

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Its a little funny that Niskanen is a likeable target. Before he was traded to Pitt, I was soundly laughed off this board for suggesting we find a way to get Niskanen. At the time his stock was low and he was being destroyed by Marc Crawford but he had been really good and had all the tools.

Regardless, we have seen several opportunities to add decent dmen to solidify the group of 6 and JR passes on it every damn time whether its a low level free agent who is solid or whether its missing out on a minor trade like Fistric for a 3rd rounder. Despite the price, there was absolutley no reason to bring back Corvo for the role he was going to serve. It was just easier because he wanted to come back.
IIRC you, bleed, and myself were 3 of the few who were saying that we take a run at him. I think I preferred Daley between the two, but was onboard for either one.


I still think the biggest hole we have is #3C, until we resolve that we're still in a holding pattern IMO. A guy like even Langkow or Moore as #2 could be a big boost to this team. Bigger then adding any dman shy of a Marc Staal type player.


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01-29-2013, 08:47 AM
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IMO Caniacs you need a stay at home like Volchenkov or Gorges with Jokinen as the bargaining chip

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Arnott's back on the market. Any chance we wait a couple weeks for him to get back in whatever shape he needs to get back in to pass a physical then go for it?

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We could try for Cullen, and try to get Falk also.....

That would mess with Tripp,

Justin Falk / Justin Faulk pairing

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IMO Caniacs you need a stay at home like Volchenkov or Gorges with Jokinen as the bargaining chip
Yeah I think a lot of Canes fans were all about acquiring him in the pre-season, basically thinking along those same lines trade wise. He'd be perfect for what the Canes need, it was a very glaring and obvious hole after the departure of Allen and JR took the absolute wrong step in addressing it this offseason.

I can't remember but I think the Ruutu injury kindof derailed that train for whatever reason. I haven't heard the idea much since then at least.

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I really wish they'd deal Ryan Murphy for someone. Nothing against the kid, but I think everyone has unholy expectations for a PP specialist.

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