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02-04-2013, 06:54 PM
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Yes having that many scouts at a game is odd, especially having Western scouts at Eastern conference games this year.
I keep seeing this, but they don't just scout for game prep and trades. They also scout for free agency.

This many at one game is a bit surprising, but both conferences are going to scout one another regardless of a potential trade.

In this situation I'd say it could definitely be about a trade, but I wouldn't get excited about every single Western scout at an Eastern game.

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I'd like to believe sports games are like Gypsy palm readers. You know, reliable fortune tellers?

5 straight seasons of 47+ wins, 2 Stanley Cups and a Norris Trophy by Jordie Benn. This is all to happen between the 2013-14 and 2017-18.

Oh and we somehow manage to draft Connor McDavid after we win the cup. Guess that package of Rielly Smith and Brenden Dillon is pretty valuable eh?

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02-04-2013, 10:24 PM
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I'd like to believe sports games are like Gypsy palm readers. You know, reliable fortune tellers?

5 straight seasons of 47+ wins, 2 Stanley Cups and a Norris Trophy by Jordie Benn. This is all to happen between the 2013-14 and 2017-18.

Oh and we somehow manage to draft Connor McDavid after we win the cup. Guess that package of Rielly Smith and Brenden Dillon is pretty valuable eh?
What are you talking about?

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What are you talking about?
I wasn't clear enough with the first sentence?

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I wasn't clear enough with the first sentence?
No but I don't really care anymore.

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No but I don't really care anymore.
I'm sorry you feel that way.

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No but I don't really care anymore.

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if i'm thinking clearly that gulutzan is playing a matchup game with the defense, then i think larsen gets in the next game against the speedy, skilled edmonton forwards. the avalanche have quite a few goon types that rome theoretically matches up better against. :fingers crossed:

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I don't see how Larsen doesn't come in after the abomination of a game Rome played. Dude is a pylon.

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No GDT yet so ....

Lethonen is starting tomorrow, and Heika said no changes to the lineup.

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02-05-2013, 07:16 PM
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Feeling like we should start referring to this team as the Allas Stars, because there is no D on this team.

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02-05-2013, 07:18 PM
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No D? That's the one thing they seem to be doing well. It's the offense that has held this team back.

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No D? That's the one thing they seem to be doing well. It's the offense that has held this team back.
You can't possibly be serious. 30+ shots a night is not good defense.

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This team is giving up only 2.5 goals a game (11th in the league). That's pretty damn good, especially with two and three rookies playing on D every night. I don't give a crap about shots. I care about goals against and scoring chances against. I'd say this d group is giving up fewer quality scoring chances than we've seen in the past couple of seasons.

This team is scoring fewer than 2 goals a game (28th in the league). 12.1% on the PP (25th in the league). Terrible. Just terrible.

If you're going to be upset about anything on this team, the offense has to be the primary focus.

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02-05-2013, 08:06 PM
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The goaltending is the reason those defensive numbers look that way.

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anyone have stats that would indicate quality of shots faced?

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Regardless of shots allowed, they aren't scoring enough, that's for sure. Whether it's the D or just the goalies bailing them out, the GAA is good enough to win games if you are putting up a decent amount of goals. Whether the goals against can stay that low is a good question though.

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anyone have stats that would indicate quality of shots faced?
No, but 4-5-1 is a good indicator of overall quality of play.

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02-05-2013, 08:33 PM
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The goaltending is the reason those defensive numbers look that way.
They go hand in hand. Three goalies have started and put up awesome stats. That means the Stars either have three awesome goalies or maybe the defense is contributing to those awesome goaltending numbers.

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02-05-2013, 08:43 PM
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It means the Stars have 3 awesome goalies.

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02-05-2013, 08:47 PM
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I tend to agree with Troy on this one. To the eye test at least the D looks better on the whole (from what I've seen).

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33.8 shots against per game is brutal. You can go on all you want about quality of chances, but over the long haul giving up that quantity of shots is going to kill you.

Part of that is the penalties, granted. But this team has shown no signs of discipline under Gulutzan so I don't know what difference that makes.

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02-05-2013, 08:55 PM
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maybe my memory fails me, but i seem to recall some teams that were really good but always got outshot... anahiem with giggy comes to mind. even a few years in jersey with marty b. i recall many a night with razor saying, "it's all great to outshoot someone, but when your chances suck, it doesn't mean much."

of course, i'm sure he had much more vapid, rapier like verbiage.

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It does mean a lot though. Pucks bounce off random sticks, skates, and pads and go in. Rebounds find the open man alone on the doorstep. That's why coaches go on and on about just getting pucks on net. No one ever says, "We've got to wait for the perfect passing play and take only high quality chances".

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33.8 shots against per game is brutal. You can go on all you want about quality of chances, but over the long haul giving up that quantity of shots is going to kill you.

Part of that is the penalties, granted.
I think a big part of it goes to penalties. They give up 7.4 shots a game on the PK, tied for most in the league. That alone accounts for some of the reason why their shots against total is so high.

Considering that they have a pretty good PK, that continues to build the case that the defense is playing fine.

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