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02-13-2013, 10:53 AM
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Chi - Col - Tor

Three way trades are rare, but I've thought about this trade and I think it benefits all teams...

To Colorado:
Gardiner
McNeil/Danault

To Chicago:
Grabo (-1.5mil caphit)

To Toronto:
ROR
Chicago's 1st/2nd

Colorado does this, because ROR and them are obviously at an impass and receive a young potential top pairing PMD in Gardiner to pair with EJ and receive a center prospect to fill their 3rd line C hole in the future.

Chicago does this because they can acquire a #2 Center in which they've been looking for, for awhile now. Obviously they have something good going, so they only trade non roster pieces in order to maintain their balance. As incentive, Toronto eats 1.5mil of Grabo's salary, giving him a 4mil caphit.

Toronto does this because they acquire a Left handed playmaking two way center in ROR who would mesh well between JVR and Kessel, we also receive a low 1st or high 2nd, depending on how the value is perceived.

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02-13-2013, 11:02 AM
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McNeill/Danault and a 1st for Grabo is a tough call to be honest. I'd rather pursue Ribiero.

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02-13-2013, 11:08 AM
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McNeill/Danault and a 1st for Grabo is a tough call to be honest. I'd rather pursue Ribiero.
My thoughts were similar. I think Grabo would be a great fit but he's not prying out a 1st PLUS a good prospect. Maybe if it was a 2nd plus the prospect.

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02-13-2013, 11:11 AM
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My thoughts were similar. I think Grabo would be a great fit but he's not prying out a 1st PLUS a good prospect. Maybe if it was a 2nd plus the prospect.
Hence the 1st/2nd

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Don't think the Hawks can afford Grabo.

If Chicago is able to send McNeill and a 1st which gets Toronto RoR, I would prefer to sent that package directly to Colorado for Ror. Younger, plays the all around game, and I compare him to a mini-Toews. Of the two I would rather see RoR in Chicago over Grabo

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I think it is actually pretty fair all around however TOR should retain 2M or so of cap space for 2 years to give Chi some wiggle room.

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Don't think the Hawks can afford Grabo.

If Chicago is able to send McNeill and a 1st which gets Toronto RoR, I would prefer to sent that package directly to Colorado for Ror. Younger, plays the all around game, and I compare him to a mini-Toews. Of the two I would rather see RoR in Chicago over Grabo
Wouldn't work from our end, can't see the OP working out too well either to be honest.

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02-13-2013, 11:17 AM
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Don't think the Hawks can afford Grabo.

If Chicago is able to send McNeill and a 1st which gets Toronto RoR, I would prefer to sent that package directly to Colorado for Ror. Younger, plays the all around game, and I compare him to a mini-Toews. Of the two I would rather see RoR in Chicago over Grabo
You'd have to trade Leddy + McNeil/Danault....

You realize the Leafs are trading Gards...

Also if the Leafs eat 1.5mil the Blackhawks can afford it when they send someone down...

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Solid proposal, imo.

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02-13-2013, 11:18 AM
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Three way trades are rare, but I've thought about this trade and I think it benefits all teams...

To Colorado:
Gardiner
McNeil/Danault

To Chicago:
Grabo (-1.5mil caphit)

To Toronto:
ROR
Chicago's 1st/2nd

Colorado does this, because ROR and them are obviously at an impass and receive a young potential top pairing PMD in Gardiner to pair with EJ and receive a center prospect to fill their 3rd line C hole in the future.

Chicago does this because they can acquire a #2 Center in which they've been looking for, for awhile now. Obviously they have something good going, so they only trade non roster pieces in order to maintain their balance. As incentive, Toronto eats 1.5mil of Grabo's salary, giving him a 4mil caphit.

Toronto does this because they acquire a Left handed playmaking two way center in ROR who would mesh well between JVR and Kessel, we also receive a low 1st or high 2nd, depending on how the value is perceived.
I don't think Colorado helps a team within their conference and I don't think Toronto gives up on Gardiner.

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02-13-2013, 11:34 AM
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Not a bad three way... that's what she said.

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02-13-2013, 11:52 AM
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I don't get why Chicago has to give up a pick, especially to Toronto.. ?

This boils down to:

Gardiner for ROR
McNeill/Danault + CHI's 1st/2nd for Grabo

Toronto gets the best player in the deal and only gives up Gardiner?

CHI gets Grabo, with the Leafs retaining 1.5M in cap space. COL gets Gardiner + McNeill/Danault + TOR's 2nd '13. TOR gets O'Reilly.

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02-13-2013, 11:57 AM
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I don't get why Chicago has to give up a pick, especially to Toronto.. ?

This boils down to:

Gardiner for ROR
McNeill/Danault + CHI's 1st/2nd for Grabo

Toronto gets the best player in the deal and only gives up Gardiner?

CHI gets Grabo, with the Leafs retaining 1.5M in cap space. COL gets Gardiner + McNeill/Danault + TOR's 2nd '13. TOR gets O'Reilly.
Probably because the difference between Grabovski and ROR is not Gardiner(+)...

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02-13-2013, 11:58 AM
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I don't get why Chicago has to give up a pick, especially to Toronto.. ?

This boils down to:

Gardiner for ROR
McNeill/Danault + CHI's 1st/2nd for Grabo

Toronto gets the best player in the deal and only gives up Gardiner?

CHI gets Grabo, with the Leafs retaining 1.5M in cap space. COL gets Gardiner + McNeill/Danault + TOR's 2nd '13. TOR gets O'Reilly.
I'm pretty sure the Leafs management aren't keen on eating 1.5m for 5 years when the cap is going down next year and we just have 1 more season before our buyouts are off the book...

We give up Grabovski, Gardiner, a 2nd, and keep 1.5m in salary for ROR? haha

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02-13-2013, 12:00 PM
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If its a second, and Toronto eats a million off Grabo's contract its fair IMO.

Solid proposal OP!

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02-13-2013, 12:10 PM
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Not even close.

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02-13-2013, 12:30 PM
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Horrible proposal for Toronto.

Maybe Grabo for ROR, maybe...

No way we trade Gardiner for a 1st/2nd.

Another supstantal asset would have to come back our way. SUBSTANTIAL

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02-13-2013, 12:39 PM
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Yeah, my bad guys. Brain fart.

TOR gives up Grabo and Gardiner, gets ROR and a 1st/2nd. CHI Gives up McNeill/Danalult and a 1st/2nd, gets Grabo. COL gives up ROR, gets Gardiner and McNeill/Danault.

Forgot to factor Grabo into my previous post.

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02-13-2013, 01:58 PM
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1st + Danault/McNeill for Grabo? No thanks with his Cap hit going forward

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1st + Danault/McNeill for Grabo? No thanks with his Cap hit going forward
They'd be eating 1.5M off his caphit. So, his caphit would be 4M instead of 5.5M.

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02-13-2013, 02:22 PM
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They'd be eating 1.5M off his caphit. So, his caphit would be 4M instead of 5.5M.
Grabo at a $4M cap hit would have much higher value than has been indicated in this thread.

He is a very good #2C, and at $4M that would be a steal of a contract.

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02-13-2013, 03:12 PM
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How about this...

Toronto : In

Ryan O'Reilly
1st (Condition that Chicago makes conference finals, 2nd if they don't)

Toronto : Out

Jake Gardiner
Mikhail Grabovski

Colorado : In

Gardiner
McNeil/Danault

Colorado : Out

Ryan O'Reilly

Chicago : In

Grabovski (Cap hit of 4mil through 5 years) (Yes, Toronto eats 1.5mil each year, UNLESS Grabovski is traded)

Chicago : Out

McNeil/Danault
1st (Condition that Chicago makes conference finals, 2nd if they don't)

Does that clarify everything?

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02-13-2013, 03:21 PM
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Yeah, I'd probably do that trade. I'm not a huge Grabo fan, but 25 goals and 50 points for 4M is a good deal. That would allow Chicago to keep Bolland aswell.

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This should be a lot simpler...

Toronto isn't going to part with Gardiner to make a move like this.

Find a way to send Grabo to Chicago, O'Reilly to Toronto, and it should be good. No retained salary, Leafs should be prepared to part with a roster defenceman not named Phaneuf/Gunnarsson.

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