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01-28-2013, 07:07 PM
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1) no team is going to change their opinion on their goltending after 5 games (either way)

2) there is a Luongo thread

3) We won't get anywhere near a player of Backstroms caliber for Luongo

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01-28-2013, 07:18 PM
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sure...neuvirth v the rangers and holtby v the bruins and the rangers stood on their heads. both of them outdueled lundqvist and holtby outdueled tim thomas as well.

in short whatever success the caps have had in the playoffs during the ovechkin era the goaltender at the time is given a large amount of the credit for that happening and non or very little of the blame when they lost.

conversely luongo is the goat in vancouver
While yes he has had some bad play-off games even Patrick Roy did as well (not saying Luongo is as good of play-off goalie as Roy arguably no one is) but Luongo is not why we lost the Cup to Boston. Injuries and taking Rome out of the series did (not saying Rome would've been a huge factor but I guarantee Boston would've taken some stupid penalties trying to get revenge on him had he played 1 more game. Luongo is a great keeper and would be worth keeping if we didn't have a keeper who I (and many others) think is a better option that Luongo.

If the Capitals bomb out of the play-offs this year and Neuvy and Holtby are not as good as they've been in previous years. McPhee would be ill-advised not to look at bringing in Luongo. Not at the cost of Backstrom (or in reality any of the top 6 forwards) but if he can get him for a cap dump (ie. Ward) and a very good prospect (Forsberg) he should at least consider it.

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01-28-2013, 07:20 PM
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Washington doesn't need a goaltender! Thanks though!

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01-28-2013, 07:24 PM
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While yes he has had some bad play-off games even Patrick Roy did as well (not saying Luongo is as good of play-off goalie as Roy arguably no one is) but Luongo is not why we lost the Cup to Boston. Injuries and taking Rome out of the series did (not saying Rome would've been a huge factor but I guarantee Boston would've taken some stupid penalties trying to get revenge on him had he played 1 more game. Luongo is a great keeper and would be worth keeping if we didn't have a keeper who I (and many others) think is a better option that Luongo.

If the Capitals bomb out of the play-offs this year and Neuvy and Holtby are not as good as they've been in previous years. McPhee would be ill-advised not to look at bringing in Luongo. Not at the cost of Backstrom (or in reality any of the top 6 forwards) but if he can get him for a cap dump (ie. Ward) and a very good prospect (Forsberg) he should at least consider it.
When it comes to the playoffs, Luongo couldn't even hold Roy's jockstrap.

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01-28-2013, 07:24 PM
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This is obviously a horrible proposal.

counter proposal

one of Johansson/Brouwer + 1st for Schneider

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01-28-2013, 07:26 PM
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Sure looks like it right now...

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01-28-2013, 07:31 PM
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Sure looks like it right now...
Not really. Goaltending has been the least of our problems so far this season, and is our strongest position prospect-wise behind Wingers.

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01-28-2013, 07:39 PM
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Let us put this in perspective, with common sense, as who might need a goalie.

Leafs: Reimer and Scrivens
Islanders: Dipietro and Nabokov
Panthers: Theodore, Clemmensen and Markstrom
Capitals: Holtby and Neuvirth
Flyers: Bryzgalov and Leighton
Blue Jackets: Bobrovsky and Mason

- Leafs need a starting goalie, but Luongo's possible value is too high. Leafs would be worse off than last season. They should trade for another goalie instead.
- Islanders need defense and better team defense, not so much with goaltending. Dipietro contract just messes up things for them.
- Panthers I believe have the best prospect pool in NHL right now, but have a lot of injuries to their roster. This is Luongo's preference. Theodore could backup Schneider and Clemmensen could be Luongo's backup till Markstrom is ready to come up.
- Neuvirth is really stepping up to the plate, so we will see. McPhee stays away from monster contracts especially regarding trades.
- Bryzgalov is playing much better. Leighton stinks as backup, so maybe they look for backup goalie help.
- John Davidson is part of management now and he knows to build the right way. They already traded for Bobrovsky, so it is not gonna happen for Luongo.

Panthers look like the best destination, unless another team falls into the picture.


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01-28-2013, 07:40 PM
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As is, I think that's great. Vis for Ballard if they want a longer term solution too, but Ballard...he's been impressive so far this year.
Yeah Ballard is on his game, finally bringing what we hoped for (although I think there is still more offensively) I'm not to anxious to move him right now.

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01-28-2013, 07:46 PM
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This is obviously a horrible proposal.

counter proposal

one of Johansson/Brouwer + 1st for Schneider
No thanks.

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Let us put this in perspective, with common sense, as who might need a goalie.

Leafs: Reimer and Scrivens
Islanders: Dipietro and Nabokov
Panthers: Theodore, Clemmensen and Markstrom
Capitals: Holtby and Neuvirth
Flyers: Bryzgalov and Leighton
Blue Jackets: Bobrovsky and Mason

- Leafs need a starting goalie, but Luongo's possible value is too high. Leafs would be worse off than last season. They should trade for another goalie instead.
- Islanders need defense and better team defense, not so much with goaltending. Dipietro contract just messes up things for them.
- Panthers I believe have the best prospect pool in NHL right now, but have a lot of injuries to their roster. This is Luongo's preference. Theodore could backup Schneider and Clemmensen could be Luongo's backup till Markstrom is ready to come up.
- Neuvirth is really stepping up to the plate, so we will see. McPhee stays away from monster contracts especially regarding trades.
- Bryzgalov is playing much better. Leighton stinks as backup, so maybe they look for backup goalie help.
- John Davidson is part of management now and he knows to build the right way. They already traded for Bobrovsky, so it is not gonna happen for Luongo as well.

Panthers look like the best destination, unless another team falls into the picture.
- Leafs need a goalie, but rumoured pieces are playing well, and they can't really afford to give anything up at the moment, will have to wait on them to be one of the top dogs in the running.

- You hit the nail on the head with Florida.

- Washington, it is too early to tell, as perhaps there young duo turns things around, but you have to think if they continue to sink they might have some interest. They also have pieces to move that wouldn't dismantle the team and organization IMO. A Lu trade would likely benefit them more than hurt, but who knows, once again too early to tell.

- Philly isn't a contender at the moment, although if Bryz has another bad year, could see them showing some interest in the offseasn.

- Columbus isn't in it, Luongo won't go there and it doesn't really make sense for them to go after Lu.

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01-28-2013, 08:38 PM
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- You hit the nail on the head with Florida.
He didn't hit the nail at all. Theodore has a NTC and even of he didn't, he gives Florida similar goaltending at 1/4 of the price.

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01-28-2013, 09:15 PM
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He didn't hit the nail at all. Theodore has a NTC and even of he didn't, he gives Florida similar goaltending at 1/4 of the price.
Not really similar goaltending, Luongo is much better. We would probably have to take salary back, but it is a fit for all sides.

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01-28-2013, 09:29 PM
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Kuznetsov for Schneider, 1-for-1.

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01-28-2013, 09:35 PM
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Serious question to all:

Since my suggestion that Luongo is a perfect fit for the Islanders is being met by some with confusion concerning the possibility of Roberto & DiPietro on the same team for salary/cap reasons...

How does the one-time buyout work? Why can't NYI use it on Rick this summer?

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Anything change since Gillis said he had a done deal?

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Serious question to all:

Since my suggestion that Luongo is a perfect fit for the Islanders is being met by some with confusion concerning the possibility of Roberto & DiPietro on the same team for salary/cap reasons...

How does the one-time buyout work? Why can't NYI use it on Rick this summer?
Because they're poor.

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Anything change since Gillis said he had a done deal?
Jut waiting to see who the Lucky team is...

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Anything change since Gillis said he had a done deal?
Nope the leafs still have two crappy goalies

See two of us can do that.

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He didn't hit the nail at all. Theodore has a NTC and even of he didn't, he gives Florida similar goaltending at 1/4 of the price.
They do both wear pads, skates, a mask and use a stick if that's what you mean.

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Sounds like the Burke in his tenure as a GM.

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He didn't hit the nail at all. Theodore has a NTC and even of he didn't, he gives Florida similar goaltending at 1/4 of the price.
Uh no. Theodore played 2 years for the Caps and he still plays the same. Only difference was the Caps defense was worse than the Panthers are now, hence his better numbers. Besides Panthers management could inform Theodore that he is not in their future plans starting next season. He or Clemmensen could be in the deal and it wouldn't matter, as Theodore would be a backup either way. Unless he wants to be a d0uche, then he will waive his NTC.

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Uh no. Theodore played 2 years for the Caps and he still plays the same. Only difference was the Caps defense was worse than the Panthers are now, hence his better numbers. Besides Panthers management could inform Theodore that he is not in their future plans starting next season. He or Clemmensen could be in the deal and it wouldn't matter, as Theodore would be a backup either way. Unless he wants to be a d0uche, then he will waive his NTC.
Refusal to waive a NTC does not make a player a ******. It does make a fan a ****** to criticize said player for not waiving (see some toronto fans re: kaberle, tucker, sundin etc.). Same for the GM. All Tallon could do is offer Theodore the option to be included. Asking the player to waive is classless.

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Luongo to the Wild

To the Wild: Roberto Luongo

To the Canucks: Devin Setoguchi and one of Jonas Brodin or Mathew Dumba

Gillis said that a Luongo trade may not give the Canucks the return he expects right away. Gillis also has said he isn't concerned what team he trades Luongo to. Just that the return has to benefit the Canucks more than the Canucks keeping Luongo.

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Uh no. Theodore played 2 years for the Caps and he still plays the same. Only difference was the Caps defense was worse than the Panthers are now, hence his better numbers. Besides Panthers management could inform Theodore that he is not in their future plans starting next season. He or Clemmensen could be in the deal and it wouldn't matter, as Theodore would be a backup either way. Unless he wants to be a d0uche, then he will waive his NTC.
The caps defense? What defense? And to call him a ****** for not waiving his NTC and that he's not in the Panthers future plans. He signed that contract knowing he wasn't in our future plans. He already knows that. He's signed for half a year. He wants to retire in Florida. He signed with the Panthers for dirt cheap so he could get that no trade clause for a situation EXACTLY like this.

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To the Wild: Roberto Luongo

To the Canucks: Devin Setoguchi and one of Jonas Brodin or Mathew Dumba

Gillis said that a Luongo trade may not give the Canucks the return he expects right away. Gillis also has said he isn't concerned what team he trades Luongo to. Just that the return has to benefit the Canucks more than the Canucks keeping Luongo.
Terrible for the Wild.

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