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01-31-2013, 10:55 PM
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Hahaha, well I'm willing to bet a lot more agree with me then you. But hey, you guys won against Washington tonight, congrats.
Yes, we did. We gained 2 points in the standings as a result.

James Reimer is now at .910 and a 2.80 gaa. What's Cory Schneider doing to improve his .897 and 3.13 gaa? Sitting on the bench, last I heard.

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The numbers clearly show he's better. Reimer was amongst the worst in the lague last year. Schneider was amongst the best.
The 4 games this year have proven us wrong.

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He is expensive. $4m for a goaltender who's never been a #1 is expensive no matter which way you slice it. Realistically, the team that trades for him is going to use him in a tandem context, and how many teams are spending $8m on their goaltending tandem? 3? Vancouver, New York, and Nashville, and the latter 2 are over $8m because they have the first and second most expensive goaltenders in the league.

To put it simply, $4m is an expensive tandem goaltender. Jaroslav Halak is probably the benchmark for absolute most you'd want to spend on a tandem guy, and he's at $3.75m. Devan Dubnyk is at the same price and is his team's #1, and was the top half of the tandem last year.

Suggesting that he's definitely better than both of the Leafs goalies is a curious comment, considering the numbers suggest otherwise.
google "sample size"

How do the career numbers compare?

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01-31-2013, 10:57 PM
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The numbers clearly show he's better. Reimer was amongst the worst in the league last year. Schneider was amongst the best.
Again a curious comment, considering you're leaving out the information that James Reimer was a #1 goaltender last year, and Corey Schneider was a backup.

I'm not sure how you consider a backup goaltender to be among the best. Generally, to be among the best goaltenders in the league, a prerequisite would be that you actually are a #1 goaltender.

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The 4 games this year have proven us wrong.
At least Schneider is tied with Kessel in the goal scoring race though. And he's only played half the games.

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google "sample size"

How do the career numbers compare?
Really should have just ignored it, oh well.

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Again a curious comment, considering you're leaving out the information that James Reimer was a #1 goaltender last year, and Corey Schneider was a backup.

I'm not sure how you consider a backup goaltender to be among the best. Generally, to be among the best goaltenders in the league, you have to play.
You mean number one in terms of number one worst in the NHL?
He was the worst starting goalie in the NHL. Not a GM in the laegue would take Reimer over Schneider. You're simply trolling here.

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Again a curious comment, considering you're leaving out the information that James Reimer was a #1 goaltender last year, and Corey Schneider was a backup.

I'm not sure how you consider a backup goaltender to be among the best. Generally, to be among the best goaltenders in the league, a prerequisite would be that you actually are a #1 goaltender.
"A" for effort

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google "sample size"

How do the career numbers compare?
Schneider's got better numbers, Reimer's got much tougher experience.

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You mean number one in terms of number one worst in the NHL?
He was the worst strting goalie in the NHL. Not a GM in the laegue would take Reimer over Schneider. You're simply trolling here.
He was close to being the worst starting goalie in the NHL last year (Steve Mason would definitely be worse) Doesn't really mean much when we're comparing to a backup like Corey Schneider.

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Schneider's got better numbers, Reimer's got much tougher experience.
With that I agree. Last year Reimer was was brutal.

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You're simply trolling here.
I'm pretty sure that's all this thread is for at this point.

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Schneider's got better numbers, Reimer's got much tougher experience.
Hahaha what does that even mean. Now everyone knows what I meant when I said here it begins.

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I'm pretty sure that's all this thread is for at this point.
Pretty much.

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The numbers clearly show he's better. Reimer was amongst the worst in the league last year. Schneider was amongst the best.
No goalie would've succeeded on the Leafs last year.

The question is would Schneider be any better than Reimer ON THE LEAFS. Not who was better last year on two completely different teams. Right now, I'm very happy with Reims in net.

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No goalie would've succeeded on the Leafs last year.

The question is would Schneider be any better than Reimer ON THE LEAFS. Not who was better last year on two completely different teams. Right now, I'm very happy with Reims in net.
He's had a couple of decent games.
As for last year, he was brutal. Letting in goals from way out on weak shots. Most good goalies, including Schneider, make those saves.

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With that I agree. Last year Reimer was was brutal.
Yup. His standard of brutal is a .900 sv% and 3.10 GAA. Not entirely unexpected considering he suffered a concussion, was coming in as a sophmore goaltender to one of the toughest hockey markets in the world, with no veteran support, and played on a team who wouldn't know defence if it smacked them in the face.

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what happened to the deal that gillis said was in place for luongo? he said something about waiting on a player's status? anybody have any news on that?
thanks.

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what happened to the deal that gillis said was in place for luongo? he said something about waiting on a player's status? anybody have any news on that?
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Pretty sure nobody knows anything.

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Schneider's got better numbers, Reimer's got much tougher experience.
I'm more comfortable deciding who is better with numbers than strength of experience.

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Yup. His standard of brutal is a .900 sv% and 3.10 GAA. Not entirely unexpected considering he suffered a concussion, was coming in as a sophmore goaltender to one of the toughest hockey markets in the world, with no veteran support, and played on a team who wouldn't know defence if it smacked them in the face.
It's not the defence's fault that he let weak goals in on weak shots. I'll wait for a more significant sample size to say whether he's a legitimate starter and that last year was just because of his concussion. I don't see him at Schneider's level and I doubt if any GM does either.

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You mean number one in terms of number one worst in the NHL?
He was the worst starting goalie in the NHL. Not a GM in the laegue would take Reimer over Schneider. You're simply trolling here.
I'm a Reimer supporter and after Ovechkins goal tonight, I just shook my head. It's time for Reimer to perform. The injury is gone and Allaire is gone. He just hasn't been anything but avg to below. I missed the 3rd period so I can't comment on that but overall I'm disappointed. Schneider is by far a better goalie as we speak.

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01-31-2013, 11:12 PM
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It's not the defence's fault that he let weak goals in on weak shots. I'll wait for a more significant sample size to say whether he's a legitimate starter and that last year was just because of his concussion. I don't see him at Schneider's level and I doubt if any GM does either.
Oh no, he's definitely not at Schneider's level. Reimer's proven the ability to be an effective #1 in this league for substantially longer stretches of time than Schneider has.

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Oh no, he's definitely not at Schneider's level. Reimer's proven the ability to be an effective #1 in this league for substantially longer stretches of time than Schneider has.
Hahahaha.

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what happened to the deal that gillis said was in place for luongo? he said something about waiting on a player's status? anybody have any news on that?
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There never was any deal. Just Gillis trying to stir the pot.

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There never was any deal. Just Gillis trying to stir the pot.
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