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01-26-2013, 10:37 PM
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Sad to say it but it might be easier to trade him to a team that has a playmaker and power forward that needs a sniper with his talent and is willing to pay big for it. He's wasted here.
thats very true
seeing that we cant get them ourselves

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jvr looks much more beastly than lupul ever has. just fyi.

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01-26-2013, 10:38 PM
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it's a team game. our whole lineup, top to bottom, did not play well. Weak forecheck and team defence against a cup contender.
First you blamed our youth and now you can't name one young player who killed us .

We're not a team that relies on youth to win games for us and all you're doing is making excuses to hide the fact that we lack talent .

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01-26-2013, 10:39 PM
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Kadri too?
Yup. Him as well.

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Let's be real here, the Rangers are Cup favourites and played desperately tonight.
^^ simply this

Our guys played their best, can't blame them for what they are.

Four years in and this is what Burke left us with. Now we get a few years of Burke Lite. Enjoy.

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01-26-2013, 10:40 PM
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We need a lot of things.
We played the vets last year. That wasn't right.
We're playing kids this year. That isn't working.
Trade the captain
Bench the sniper.
New coach? Who cares, still doesn't know what he's doing.
Being up Frattin. Send down Frattin.
Let's rebuild. Damn we can't beat Stanley Cup contenders.
Let play better defense. Crap they haven't figured it out in 5 games, let's try something else.

This is the Toronto Maple Leafs, they are not very good, haven't been for some time.
They are my team.
I support the coach, I support the captain, and I support every other player on the team.
I'm a homer...,and I have been for 45 years.[/QUOTE]

How's that working out for .

I support the team and have for decades but just like any employee if they're not performing they have to be replaced .

Supporting the team doesn't mean you have to support individual players or the coach or the GM .
Actually I believe it does as that is what makes up the team.
What is it you're supporting if not the people who make up the team?

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01-26-2013, 10:40 PM
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I'm okay with this, the quicker we get Grabo away from Tavares or Richards type C's the better this team will be. What do you think of Kadri this year? Can he be our #2 one day?
Maybe one day Kadri could be a 2nd. line center, but tonight he was a wreck. Looked overwhelmed and accomplished nothing.

We have to have some patience to see where he can play.

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Orr - Kadri - Kessel

GO ahead run Kessel.
Trollolol. The thought of it is hilar.

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01-26-2013, 10:43 PM
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Actually I believe it does as that is what makes up the team.
What is it you're supporting if not the people who make up the team?
There is no I in team, as they say.

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01-26-2013, 10:43 PM
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Why are people so intent on finding a solution....for Kessel? I don't really get it. If he scores 40 goals and 100 points and the leafs still finish in the bottom 10, what has actually been solved?

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01-26-2013, 10:44 PM
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You don't get it. There isn't a solution. All these nerds (yourself included) with their never-ending line combinations live in a fantasy world. There isn't a magic combination that turns **** into gold. The phrase "re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic" comes to mind here. When Lupul went down, our scoring depth went down with him.

Sure, move JVR up to Kessel's line. Then shuffle the deck a few more times. Surprise! Still the same cards.
The Grabo line seemed to pick it up offensively with the JVR insertion, unfortunately this line also went south defensively.

Coaches balance out lines regularly in the NHL, Macarthur is not doing it with Kessel and Bozak, so put him back with Kule and Grabo and move JVR to Bozak and Kessel. Surprise we may have 2 scoring lines, better than accepting defeat like you are. I won't call you when the Titanic is sinking, bet you were the first to give up.

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Bag skate tomorrow, felt like we were hemmed in our zone for 50 minutes.

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01-26-2013, 10:45 PM
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I am really starting to realize just how bad the Kessel trade was. Brian Burke was absolutely bent over on that deal...what a farce.

What an absolute joke of a team. Let's face it folks, we are heading for a bottom 10 pick - however, we are likely good enough to keep it near 8th or 7th, just outside of the impact centres.

Trade Kessel.

Send Kostka down.
Everyone needs to calm the **** down. This is all we need before we face the Sabres:


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01-26-2013, 10:46 PM
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Actually I believe it does as that is what makes up the team.
What is it you're supporting if not the people who make up the team?
I support the crest on the front and the players that are pulling there weight .


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01-26-2013, 10:46 PM
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Maybe one day Kadri could be a 2nd. line center, but tonight he was a wreck. Looked overwhelmed and accomplished nothing.

We have to have some patience to see where he can play.
We're "stacking" one line at the expense of the other two. Frattin was a complete no show tonight, and did Komarov end up being double shifted on both the 1st and 3rd lines? It didn't look like Kadri had much help tonight from his linemates.

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01-26-2013, 10:47 PM
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Was Kessel reported as a deserter tonight.....he was horrible. He took one hit to make a play and after that was as far away from the wall that he could be.


I say we give all of our D man except Komi a puck to take home and stare at it and hopefully they get their fill of staring at the puck and can start to play in their own zone as D man and not as a non participant on ice fan.

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Yep, size and net presence, think he has earned the right to play on the first line. That means Bozie gets back to being the defensive conscience of that line, instead of trying to make up for the Lupul.

Still Kess and Bozie played like their brains were on Mars tonight.

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01-26-2013, 10:49 PM
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You know what's frustrating about these losses... they are doing it in embarrassing fashion. I understand that this Leafs team isn't that good. I've accepted it. But to lose like this, letting in FOUR GOALS in a single period.. it's hard to handle. It's the same thing that has plagued us since the last lockout.. we can't keep the puck out of our net.

.900 save percentage isn't going to get anyone anywhere near the playoffs. It's not good enough.
Reims let in 3 goal in one period ( one was an empty net ) and giving up 17 shots in a period and 40 plus for the game won't get you in the playoffs either .

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Maybe one day Kadri could be a 2nd. line center, but tonight he was a wreck. Looked overwhelmed and accomplished nothing.

We have to have some patience to see where he can play.
Well no one played well tonight, it was a deer in the headlights 3rd, draft Jones. That's all I gotta say. Frattin was the wreck not Kadri.

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The Grabo line seemed to pick it up offensively and with the JVR insertion, unfortunately this line also went south defensively.

Coaches balance out lines regularly in the NHL, Macarthur is not doing it with Kessel and Bozak, so put him back with Kule and Grabo and move JVR to Bozak and Kessel. Surprise we may have 2 scoring lines, better than accepting defeat like you are. I won't call you when the Titanic is sinking, bet you were the first to give up.
Macarthur was taken off that line because he was killing their offense in the first place. Now you think putting him back magically solves the problem? You want to dismantle something that's working (Kulemin - Grabo - JVR) for something that was already horrible only 4 days ago?

Sorry, you've failed to solve any problem whatsoever, even in your fantasy world where the Leafs have the depth for 2 scoring lines without Lupul.

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Why are people so intent on finding a solution....for Kessel? I don't really get it. If he scores 40 goals and 100 points and the leafs still finish in the bottom 10, what has actually been solved?
Do we have a better shot at getting out of the bottom 10 with one offensive line producing consistently, or two?

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Do we have a better shot at getting out of the bottom 10 with one offensive line producing consistently, or two?

Rangers did pretty good with one line doing all the scoring.

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01-26-2013, 10:53 PM
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So give Orr and Brown a chance to play,they haven't had a negative effect on this team for 1 shift this year.
Dude I couldn't agree more. Unfortunately it won't make us any better. Having another Kessel won't make us better either. We simply suck, so do many other teams. Unfortunately we have sowed minimal improvement at best.

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Yep, size and net presence, think he has earned the right to play on the first line. That means Bozie gets back to being the defensive conscience of that line, instead of trying to make up for the Lupul.

Still Kess and Bozie played like their brains were on Mars tonight.
Bozak is not a first line player. I hope people realize this. All the little things he does are fool's gold. His speed, positioning, and shot are not first line material, and this trumps all his positives.

JVR - Kadri - Kessel should all be playing on the same line.

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Do we have a better shot at getting out of the bottom 10 with one offensive line producing consistently, or two?
We have a better shot at getting out of the bottom 10 with good team defense and a star forward who spends more than 20 seconds a night touching the boards. Two things that are within the realm of possibility.


Strange that you've made the assumption that putting MacArthur back where he was already awful means consistent production, and so does moving JVR off a line he plays well on to a line he has never been with before.


You guys should stick to xbox.

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