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03-12-2013, 07:20 AM
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Kruger not being an offensive genius isn't a knock on him it's just the facts. Doesn't mean he isn't a good player and doesn't fill his role perfectly. He is a perfect 4th line player, grinds, works 150% all the time, and has enough offensive ability to chip in and make the 4th line dangerous at times. He in that spot is exactly what this teams needs.


What? A perfect 4th liner? He does not have the physical presence to play the 4th line role that this team needs badly. Ive said for a while now that Kruger is a tweener and not a good fit for this club. (I dont agree with it), but if Hawks feel they can afford to keep him as a PK specialist, playing limited minutes, so be it, otherwise hes trade bait as far as Im concerned. We have better and more physical bottom 6 guys in the system who should be ready very soon..and theyll come in and play with an ELC. If it were me, Id be shopping Kruger and Frolik.

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03-12-2013, 07:32 AM
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great, now that the PK cooled down a bit and the low low low expectations got higher we are back to bashing Krger
There is one person bashing Kruger on here, nearly everyone else is okay with him as long as he is the 4th line C.

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03-12-2013, 09:10 AM
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What? A perfect 4th liner? He does not have the physical presence to play the 4th line role that this team needs badly. Ive said for a while now that Kruger is a tweener and not a good fit for this club. (I dont agree with it), but if Hawks feel they can afford to keep him as a PK specialist, playing limited minutes, so be it, otherwise hes trade bait as far as Im concerned. We have better and more physical bottom 6 guys in the system who should be ready very soon..and theyll come in and play with an ELC. If it were me, Id be shopping Kruger and Frolik.
Yup because John Madden was a physical beast.

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03-12-2013, 01:34 PM
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This might be unpopular but perhaps we can acquire someone like Alex Kovalev for a bag of pucks and a half drank Bud Light. He still is fast enough to play on a line with Kane, probably has a little more offensively to offer than Stalberg (although maybe not)... and the price on him has to be near 0. (Maybe they'd let us keep our pucks and just finish the Bud Light)

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03-12-2013, 01:36 PM
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Kovalev's been bad this year and his age is clearly showing. Plus the Hawks don't need a top-6 winger anywhere near as much as they still need a second line center. Kovalev doesn't really address a need. Once Sharp is healthy, the wingers in the top-6 should be all set with Saad, Hossa, Sharp, and Kane. In the meantime, a call-up will do. Kovalev isn't much of an improvement, if one at all.

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03-12-2013, 01:37 PM
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Kovalev could still be a useful player. Unfortunately, he does whatever he wants and personally, I don't want to go game to game wondering if he will show up or not.

How about Jagr? Similar player only much more dedicated.

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03-12-2013, 01:49 PM
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If we get Jagr, Sharp absolutely must move to center.

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03-12-2013, 01:53 PM
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Kovalev could still be a useful player. Unfortunately, he does whatever he wants and personally, I don't want to go game to game wondering if he will show up or not.

How about Jagr? Similar player only much more dedicated.
Jagr wore down last year

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03-12-2013, 02:04 PM
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No interest in Jagr unless it's for throw away picks or prospects.

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03-12-2013, 02:12 PM
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What? A perfect 4th liner? He does not have the physical presence to play the 4th line role that this team needs badly. Ive said for a while now that Kruger is a tweener and not a good fit for this club. (I dont agree with it), but if Hawks feel they can afford to keep him as a PK specialist, playing limited minutes, so be it, otherwise hes trade bait as far as Im concerned. We have better and more physical bottom 6 guys in the system who should be ready very soon..and theyll come in and play with an ELC. If it were me, Id be shopping Kruger and Frolik.
I've never believed Kruger is more than a fourth liner, but if he could just get up to 50% in the dot he would rate as a good fourth liner based on his defense, willingness to get dirty, and puck management. He may not play crash-and-bang but I don't think he has to fit that mold.

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03-12-2013, 03:41 PM
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Kovalev's been bad this year and his age is clearly showing. Plus the Hawks don't need a top-6 winger anywhere near as much as they still need a second line center. Kovalev doesn't really address a need. Once Sharp is healthy, the wingers in the top-6 should be all set with Saad, Hossa, Sharp, and Kane. In the meantime, a call-up will do. Kovalev isn't much of an improvement, if one at all.

Yeah, I was just thinking he could be had for what is now a quarter of a bud light... two slurps really. Versus actually having to pay for something that clearly won't be able to be around next season (Bozak will make bank on the UFA market, Hawks dont have the cap to retain.)

You're really looking for a rental. That type of rental may not exist this season. Either you have to overpay for someone with team control or you have to just accept someone on an expiring contract that will come cheaply but may not match 100% of your team need.

Next year the Hawks will have 18 players signed for 60.27 mil on a cap of 64.3 leaving them roughly 4 mil in cap space.

Under that 4 MM they'll have to re-sign or consider re-signing the following players:
RFA:Leddy, Kruger UFA:Stalberg, Bickell, Emery

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03-12-2013, 03:44 PM
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P.S. : Kruger's a solid bottom 6 C, he needs to get better at the dot, but I'd keep him for his PK and 4th line offensive skill alone. He's going to get bigger/better (he's 23) just give him time on that.

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03-12-2013, 04:09 PM
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The Kruger posts get all the lolz on the internetz. I mean, it's honestly just funny at this point.

I'm not calling Kruger a magician with the puck or anything, but anyone saying he has no offenisve game is off their rocker and he'll only continue to improve.

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03-12-2013, 05:21 PM
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The Kruger posts get all the lolz on the internetz. I mean, it's honestly just funny at this point.

I'm not calling Kruger a magician with the puck or anything, but anyone saying he has no offenisve game is off their rocker and he'll only continue to improve.
Still waiting for the Youtube highlight reel, you're hiding it about as well as Kruger.

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03-12-2013, 05:24 PM
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Still waiting for the Youtube highlight reel, you're hiding it about as well as Kruger.
I said all that I needed to say about Kruger last year. I'm sure you can find the posts.

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03-12-2013, 05:27 PM
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I don't see Kruger more than a 35pt guy in the NHL on a 3rd line somewhere. He focuses on PK, faceoffs, and chipping in with some offense and he'll have a long career. He does have great hockey sense/IQ. That's why he's in the league instead of Pirri at this point

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I said all that I needed to say about Kruger last year. I'm sure you can find the posts.
Couple weeks back on an NBC broadcast they interviewed Kane and they asked him about Krugs and he said "I tell him he's an awesome player everyday". If you could take Kruger's offensive creativity/hockey sense and give it to Stalberg that would be one dangerous player. Kruger is pretty slick with his offensive game, nothing too flashy, but very smart like the bank off the back of the net he did a few weeks ago and got a prime chance in crease. His shot is subpar, lacks speed, decent hands but isn't good enough in traffic to convert into more scoring chances. His game is and will be going to the hard areas to score and primarily setting up his teammates.

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03-12-2013, 05:46 PM
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Couple weeks back on an NBC broadcast they interviewed Kane and they asked him about Krugs and he said "I tell him he's an awesome player everyday". If you could take Kruger's offensive creativity/hockey sense and give it to Stalberg that would be one dangerous player. Kruger is pretty slick with his offensive game, nothing too flashy, but very smart like the bank off the back of the net he did a few weeks ago and got a prime chance in crease. His shot is subpar, lacks speed, decent hands but isn't good enough in traffic to convert into more scoring chances. His game is and will be going to the hard areas to score and primarily setting up his teammates.
Yep, and I have no problem with that. He doesn't wow with his skill level, but he's capable of making slick passes and he has the potential to be a fringe top-6 forward, with a well above-average defensive game and PK ability.

He's still 22 and only in his 2nd NHL season. The improvement from last year is evident. He'll continue to round out his game.

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03-12-2013, 08:04 PM
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Couple weeks back on an NBC broadcast they interviewed Kane and they asked him about Krugs and he said "I tell him he's an awesome player everyday". If you could take Kruger's offensive creativity/hockey sense and give it to Stalberg that would be one dangerous player. Kruger is pretty slick with his offensive game, nothing too flashy, but very smart like the bank off the back of the net he did a few weeks ago and got a prime chance in crease. His shot is subpar, lacks speed, decent hands but isn't good enough in traffic to convert into more scoring chances. His game is and will be going to the hard areas to score and primarily setting up his teammates.
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Yep, and I have no problem with that. He doesn't wow with his skill level, but he's capable of making slick passes and he has the potential to be a fringe top-6 forward, with a well above-average defensive game and PK ability.

He's still 22 and only in his 2nd NHL season. The improvement from last year is evident. He'll continue to round out his game.
Do you have a time machine and the ability to go back to last year? Or are you still adding to your opinion on 16?

I need to get the glasses you guys are wearing, probably makes one confuse Roseanne Barr with Pam Anderson.

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