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Jakob Chychrun vs Noah Hanifin

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03-15-2016, 11:09 PM
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Jakob Chychrun vs Noah Hanifin

Which player would you rather have in your system?

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03-15-2016, 11:35 PM
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I'd take Chychrun because IMO he has a higher ceiling.

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03-16-2016, 12:11 AM
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I'd take Hanifin. A lot better defensively and less injury prone. Also chychrun seems like a me before team kinda guy with all his switching country antics

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03-16-2016, 12:17 AM
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I'd take Hanifin. A lot better defensively and less injury prone. Also chychrun seems like a me before team kinda guy with all his switching country antics
That last part is completely BS as he has done everything asked of him in Sarnia.

Also what antics? He had a choice as to which team he could represent internationally. Just because you don't like his choice doesn't make him selfish.

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03-16-2016, 12:20 AM
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That last part is completely BS as he has done everything asked of him in Sarnia.

Also what antics? He had a choice as to which team he could represent internationally. Just because you don't like his choice doesn't make him selfish.
Uhh he went to the US 15 development camp, and then turned around and ran for the border when the USHL denied him exceptional status. Bit different than simply choosing a country, and pretty egotistical imo

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03-16-2016, 12:22 AM
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Chychrun.

Had Hanifin ranked 3rd for D last draft behind Provorov and Werenski. He's close to dropping another spot for me behind Larsson.

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03-16-2016, 12:36 AM
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Uhh he went to the US 15 development camp, and then turned around and ran for the border when the USHL denied him exceptional status. Bit different than simply choosing a country, and pretty egotistical imo
He wanted to play in a league that was objectively more difficult to play in than what he had access to. Do you decry Auston Matthews' decision to go to Europe instead of NCAA or CHL?

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03-16-2016, 12:38 AM
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Uhh he went to the US 15 development camp, and then turned around and ran for the border when the USHL denied him exceptional status. Bit different than simply choosing a country, and pretty egotistical imo
He made a choice based on what would benefit his career the most. It isn't egotistical, its prudent.

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03-16-2016, 01:19 AM
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Uhh he went to the US 15 development camp, and then turned around and ran for the border when the USHL denied him exceptional status. Bit different than simply choosing a country, and pretty egotistical imo
He chose what was best for his development, if he couldn't play in the USHL at 15, it was probably better to play in the GTHL over an american travel team. And unless he was planning on going the USNDP route the OHL is clearly the better choice. Plus even if he got the USHL exemption he wouldn't of been locked in to the USA, he easily still could of switched.

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03-16-2016, 01:24 AM
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I'd take Hanifin. A lot better defensively and less injury prone. Also chychrun seems like a me before team kinda guy with all his switching country antics
Him switching doesn't prove anything.

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Uhh he went to the US 15 development camp, and then turned around and ran for the border when the USHL denied him exceptional status. Bit different than simply choosing a country, and pretty egotistical imo
AmericanDream can probably confirm/deny this for me, but I'm pretty sure that camp is technically open to all players invited regardless of nation? It's not a IIHF sanctioned event and it's just one of the ways USA Hockey tries to improve the skill levels of its best players, by collecting them all together. Obviously there's bias towards Americans, but it's not like a Canadian living in the US couldn't go.

Choosing a country is rarely about ego. It's about opportunity. It's always about "Can I do better for my family, myself, my career, something that's important to me?"

As Intense Rage said, it's just prudent. I consider myself Canadian but I have no problem with throwing that citizenship away if it's for a purpose. My own sense of self-identification is not tied down to whatever it says on my passport, if I open doors to my goals by being American/Swedish/Chinese then consider it done.

I could care less about Chychrun's nationality, besides for national team purposes. Hockey fans get way too rooted in this sense of nationalistic pride and if Hanifin is better than Chychrun, it's not going to be because one was 'loyal' to a flag and the other wasn't. Chychrun's only ever done everything asked of him by the coaching staff and more, while taking a leadership role and working out like a madman off the ice.

BTW my answer is Hanifin by a hair. I think both will be top pairing defensemen and that both have as good a shot as anyone over the last 2 drafts to be number 1 defenders on playoff teams.

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03-16-2016, 03:37 AM
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Chychrun.

Had Hanifin ranked 3rd for D last draft behind Provorov and Werenski. He's close to dropping another spot for me behind Larsson.
I'm sorry... Are you suggesting that something about Hanifin's extremely solid play for an 18 year old on a mediocre team has made you put Jacob Larsson ahead of him? Yikes.

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I'm sorry... Are you suggesting that something about Hanifin's extremely solid play for an 18 year old on a mediocre team has made you put Jacob Larsson ahead of him? Yikes.
I don't think it's entirely inconceivable that Larsson ends up the better defenseman. Hanifin is certainly ahead but it's harder to predict development with defenseman. We have seen guys make the NHL early in their careers but not manage to take the next step. Larsson is looking like a very good prospect for a late 1st, he could really surprise.

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I don't think it's entirely inconceivable that Larsson ends up the better defenseman. Hanifin is certainly ahead but it's harder to predict development with defenseman. We have seen guys make the NHL early in their careers but not manage to take the next step. Larsson is looking like a very good prospect for a late 1st, he could really surprise.
I'm not saying Larsson isn't good or that it's impossible that he becomes better than Hanifin. I'm wondering what in the world lead him to conclude that Larsson is the better prospect/player today given their play on the ice up until this moment. It is beyond insane to reach that conclusion at this moment without some serious bias.

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03-16-2016, 04:37 AM
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i think chychrun is better at almost everything

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03-16-2016, 07:30 AM
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I admittedly havnt seen the two fins other than the WJC but I want Chychrun or Dubois over them. Not that I think they won't be impact player but from my veiwings of Chychrun and Dubois I'm 100% convinced

This poll is tough but I think Chychrun is alot more dynamic. Hanafin looks great and may become a better player but Chychrun has a higher ceiling

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03-16-2016, 08:00 AM
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So seeing these results, would people also have Chychrun above Provorov?

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So seeing these results, would people also have Chychrun above Provorov?
Yes personally but its very close, Provorov is a terrific player but watching Chychrun live, he is so impressive.

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Hanifin at this point.

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Bird in the hand. Hanifin already looks great as an 18 year old in the NHL. Gets no hype because Hurricanes.

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