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03-27-2013, 04:28 PM
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Drouin's fine, but not for the top pick.

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03-27-2013, 06:16 PM
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I'd be wary of penciling in next year's first round pick as a starter.

That's not the correct way to develop prospects.

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03-27-2013, 06:30 PM
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I'd be wary of penciling in next year's first round pick as a starter.

That's not the correct way to develop prospects.
Inking isn't, but I'd say there's nothin wrong with penciling him.

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03-27-2013, 10:07 PM
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http://theqmjhl.ca/roster/show/id/8610

i posted this in the drouin thread but i thought it was hilarious. look, his hometown is Huberdeau,QC, we gotta draft him now!

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03-28-2013, 10:06 AM
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I'd be wary of penciling in next year's first round pick as a starter.

That's not the correct way to develop prospects.
It completely depends on who it is. More often than not, the #1 pick is ready for the NHL. Assuming we achieve #1.

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03-28-2013, 11:59 AM
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Id say Huberdeau was ready for the NHL talent wise after he was drafted, but not physically. Im guessing any of the top 3 guys this year are talent ready, but may not necessarily be physically ready

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03-28-2013, 12:37 PM
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Id say Huberdeau was ready for the NHL talent wise after he was drafted, but not physically. Im guessing any of the top 3 guys this year are talent ready, but may not necessarily be physically ready
I think Jones and Mac are ready for NHL next year. Barkov is ready physically, but from what I read, he still needs to work on his skating.

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03-29-2013, 02:36 AM
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Whatever it is, I think it's pretty kickass that we only had to suck for half a season and we're still getting a top-5

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Whatever it is, I think it's pretty kickass that we only had to suck for half a season and we're still getting a top-5
This.

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03-29-2013, 01:06 PM
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Bruins fan coming in peace. This may have already been said but I think it depends on if Weiss re-signs or not. The Panthers have alot of depth at forward but if Weiss leaves then there is a big hole at center that Mackinnon can fill. If Weiss stays then I think Jones would make more sense.

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03-30-2013, 02:55 PM
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I've always been a draft the bpa and fill needs through free agency kind of fan.

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03-30-2013, 08:40 PM
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Having watched MacKinnon, Drouin, and Huberdeau all develop first hand, I can confidently say that MacKinnon and Drouin will be better players than Huberdeau (and nothing against him at all!).

And both more NHL ready than Huber appeared to be this time last year as well.

You guys are going to have some firepower in a couple years

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03-31-2013, 01:09 PM
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Very tight race for the 1st overall. Flames and Avs are both dangerously close to passing us.

If we find some way to **** this up and make us draft like 6th, I'd might go for Monahan. Amazing production on a terrible team. Good leader.

If we somehow got another 1st, which I highly unlikely, I'd like to grab Domi too. Very skilled player. Maybe we can trade up though, but I don't see us picking forward both with our 1st and 2nd round pick.

If we lose out on MacKinnon, I'm gonna be so upset.

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03-31-2013, 01:41 PM
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Bruins fan coming in peace. This may have already been said but I think it depends on if Weiss re-signs or not. The Panthers have alot of depth at forward but if Weiss leaves then there is a big hole at center that Mackinnon can fill. If Weiss stays then I think Jones would make more sense.
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Having watched MacKinnon, Drouin, and Huberdeau all develop first hand, I can confidently say that MacKinnon and Drouin will be better players than Huberdeau (and nothing against him at all!).

And both more NHL ready than Huber appeared to be this time last year as well.

You guys are going to have some firepower in a couple years
Thanks for the input. Should finally be fun to be a Panther fan soon:

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03-31-2013, 01:57 PM
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Bruins fan coming in peace. This may have already been said but I think it depends on if Weiss re-signs or not. The Panthers have alot of depth at forward but if Weiss leaves then there is a big hole at center that Mackinnon can fill. If Weiss stays then I think Jones would make more sense.
Thing is though, Weiss isn't the scorer that Mac should be. We really don't have a problem setting up scoring chances, our problem is the actual scoring.

I keep thinking back to Adam Larsson. A lot of people really hyped up Larsson and thought that we should be the team to pick him. Not saying he won't be a great defenseman but I highly doubt anyone would go back and pick him over Huby. I know there's a difference between Jones & Larsson but I just don't want to pass up the chance at a potential superstar forward unless we have to.

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03-31-2013, 02:21 PM
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IMO, we need to move on from idea of Weiss being our leader on offense.

The possibility of having our offense lead by a duo like Huberdeau + MacKinnon or Huberdeau + Drouin is far more enticing to me than picking Seth Jones and hoping he becomes our franchise defenseman. Like Shea Weber is to Nashville.

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03-31-2013, 02:28 PM
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IMO, we need to move on from idea of Weiss being our leader on offense.

The possibility of having our offense lead by a duo like Huberdeau + MacKinnon or Huberdeau + Drouin is far more enticing to me than picking Seth Jones and hoping he becomes our franchise defenseman. Like Shea Weber is to Nashville.
Also, Shea Weber was never projected to be the Shea Weber of today because d-men are extremely hard to project. I was looking at the prospect board yesterday and Duncan Keith was 19th and Bfuglyien was around him in the HF's Blackhawk rankings for their prospects. Far behind #1 prospect, Cam freakin Barker. haha

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03-31-2013, 05:18 PM
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Thing is though, Weiss isn't the scorer that Mac should be. We really don't have a problem setting up scoring chances, our problem is the actual scoring.

I keep thinking back to Adam Larsson. A lot of people really hyped up Larsson and thought that we should be the team to pick him. Not saying he won't be a great defenseman but I highly doubt anyone would go back and pick him over Huby. I know there's a difference between Jones & Larsson but I just don't want to pass up the chance at a potential superstar forward unless we have to.

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You need to wait 5-10 years before knowing whether Larsson is a better NHL pick. High draft pick forwards will typically always have a better NHL pennetration career.

I'd take a Forward over Jones simply because i believe compiling a competent defense is easier than compiling a dangerous offensive unit. I think you can compile good coaching with solid players much more comfortably than you can create a lethal offensive unit.

Having said that, if our scouts believe Jones is the BPA (meaning he fits in within our model and they believe he will be an elite #1) i have no issue with us taking him. Jones isn't like Gudbranson, he's clearly very talented with the puck. If you're taking a D really high, he needs to have puck skills IMO, which Gudbranson doesn't truely have.

I truely believe it's possiubly to believe there are 4 or 5 forwards who could potentially be the best player down the line. I don't think it is clear cut that Mackinnon or Drouin are guaranteed to the best forwards down the line. Barkov/Lindholm/Nichushkin really aren't behind at all, and it honestly wouldn't suprise me if they proved the better selection long-term. This is why this draft is great ; the top tier is deep and beautiful. Handfuls of breasts, rather than one big cyclops breast.

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03-31-2013, 06:02 PM
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Very tight race for the 1st overall. Flames and Avs are both dangerously close to passing us.

If we find some way to **** this up and make us draft like 6th, I'd might go for Monahan. Amazing production on a terrible team. Good leader.

If we somehow got another 1st, which I highly unlikely, I'd like to grab Domi too. Very skilled player. Maybe we can trade up though, but I don't see us picking forward both with our 1st and 2nd round pick.

If we lose out on MacKinnon, I'm gonna be so upset.
We just need to put Clemmensen in again for a game..

We are anyway due for a loss. I am pretty sure that we will lose against the Lightning next game.

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03-31-2013, 06:03 PM
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We just need to put Clemmensen in again for a game..

We are anyway due for a loss. I am pretty sure that we will lose against the Lightning next game.
Looks like we have a pretty tough schedule left, especially that last long road-trip. So put in Clemmer in the "easy" games?

C'mon, no winnin' for MacKinnon!

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Looks like we have a pretty tough schedule left, especially that last long road-trip. So put in Clemmer in the "easy" games?

C'mon, no winnin' for MacKinnon!
I havent really looked at the schedule but that is good to know!

That would be the best. He will anyway give up a few softies in these..

Hope they can accomplish that. It wouldnt be the first time that we wont when we didnt not have to!

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@ Lightning , Caps, Senators , @ Jets , Penguins , @ Islanders , @ Rangers, @ Devils , @ Bruins , Rangers , Leafs , @ Lightning

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@ Lightning , Caps, Senators , @ Jets , Penguins , @ Islanders , @ Rangers, @ Devils , @ Bruins , Rangers , Leafs , @ Lightning

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Wow that looks awesome.. So we will at least lose 2 of the next 3.

We have not done well against the Caps and Sens this year

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I've been reading a lot here on this thread, and over the years for that matter, that when drafting this high you always go BPA. Yet, I'm not entirely convinced that Jones is THAT much better than MacKinnon. Which is primarily based on what I've read and the WJC back in Dec/Jan.

A lot more has to happen between now and the draft (CHL playoffs, the combine, etc), but if a GM, like Tallon, goes into the draft with that kind of conclusion, I would think he goes for the need rather than go for a player that may currently be slightly better. Which in my opinion would likely be MacKinnon, even though Drouin I think seems to be making a pretty good case for himself, despite what some people may say.

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Avs fan here, please leave us Jones !

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