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Stevens vs Pronger

View Poll Results: Who was better?
Ronald Scott Stevens 44 35.48%
Christopher Robert Pronger 80 64.52%
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05-01-2013, 03:30 PM
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Stevens vs Pronger

Have only got to see pronger play. would like to know if stevens(as good as people say he is) is better then pronger. ive only seen highlights of stevens, but other then big hits i havent seen his all around play. thoughts?

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05-01-2013, 03:46 PM
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Stevens.

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I say Pronger, but it's VERY close. Post lock-out probably put Pronger over Stevens in my mind.

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05-01-2013, 03:57 PM
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Stevens was physical, all the time.

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Stevens was a better leader & single handedly turned around so many playoff series on his own with a hit.

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05-01-2013, 04:29 PM
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C. Robert Pronger.

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05-01-2013, 04:48 PM
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Pronger. Both were elite defensively while being great leaders and playing a physical game. However, Pronger's offensive game was at an elite level through his whole career where as Steven's offensive game was pretty average after he turned 31.

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05-01-2013, 05:37 PM
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05-01-2013, 05:37 PM
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Pronger. There were three, maybe four seasons where Stevens combined his late shutdown game and his early offensive talents. Pronger was playing at an elite level defensively and offensively for nearly a decade - all the way up until the bitter end. The only advantage Stevens had on Pronger was post-season success, but then Pronger brought it with three Conn Smythe worthy playoff runs.

I'd really like to see who fans think had the easier competition in the Stanley Cup Finals.

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05-01-2013, 05:49 PM
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It's pretty damn close either way. You couldn't go wrong with either.

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wow, was having this discussion last night. Stevens is one of my all time faves, so is Pronger. Slight edge to Stevens for me

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05-01-2013, 06:28 PM
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Pronger and Orr: Hart trophy winners.

Stevens: Not.


I like Stevens, but Pronger takes this easily. Read a story about his life post-injuries. Sad. But he looks to have gotten over his depression. Wife and kids to live for.

Meanwhile, his cap hit is erased while the Flyers pretend that he can come back.

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Chose Pronger. While I did not get to see Stevens in his prime, Pronger's control of the game in all zones was something awe-inspiring.

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Its not AINEC but I think the choice is clearly Pronger.

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05-02-2013, 12:43 AM
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It's easily Pronger.

Pronger is what Stevens would have been if you were to take his early-career offensive play and combined it with his late-career defensive play, keep the physical game, and keep the ability to crank it up in the postseason.

Every time Stevens v. Pronger comes up I chuckle. It's ridiculous. Pronger was a Norris contender from 1998 through basically the end of his career. Despite the "Scott Stevens was amazing during the late 90s/early 00s" that you might hear, Stevens had one top-five finish after 1993-94. 1993-94, incidentally, was Pronger's rookie year.

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Scott Stevens.

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Pronger and Orr: Hart trophy winners.

Stevens: Not.
Any yet for all the HURR DURR PRONGER IS A BEAST IN THE PLAYOFFS posts you'll see in this thread, Stevens is the one with a Conn Smythe.

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I like Stevens, but Pronger takes this easily.
Just lost all your credibility.

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It's easily Pronger.

Pronger is what Stevens would have been if you were to take his early-career offensive play and combined it with his late-career defensive play, keep the physical game, and keep the ability to crank it up in the postseason.

Every time Stevens v. Pronger comes up I chuckle. It's ridiculous. Pronger was a Norris contender from 1998 through basically the end of his career. Despite the "Scott Stevens was amazing during the late 90s/early 00s" that you might hear, Stevens had one top-five finish after 1993-94. 1993-94, incidentally, was Pronger's rookie year.
Stevens's prime was much more saturated with Norris-caliber defensive talent than Pronger was. He had to go up against prime Bourque, prime Leetch, prime Coffey, and prime Chelios, prime Blake, and prime MacInnis.

By the time '98 rolled around (your cutoff point), most of those guys were past their prime, he pretty much had the market cornered until the emergence of Lidstrom and Niedermayer in the early 2000's.

The post-2005 lockout era is notorious for being short on top end defensive talent. Other than Chara, Weber, and flavor-of-the-month guys like Doughty or Keith there weren't any top-tier talents that emerged to challenge the established veterans.

After Pronger's Norris in 2000 is was pretty much The Nick Lidstrom Show, no one was really close to him in either peak or prime during the decade. Pronger was always in his shadow. The only difference is the Stevens was in the shadow of three or four roughly Lidstrom-caliber players.


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05-04-2013, 09:48 AM
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Its not AINEC but I think the choice is clearly Pronger.
If your team had correctly chosen Stevens with the fourth pick in the 1982 NHL draft instead of the forgettable Ron Sutter, there is no question you'd be singing an entirely different tune.

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I would take Pronger 99-00 over Stevens in any year. Steven has Pronger beat in career value by good margin.

Pronger is one of the best playoff performers who never won a Conn Smythe. Steven's was money in the post season too and he actually has the Conn Smythe.

Close call, but the peak performance goes to Pronger and career value is more easily Stevens. I also have HUGE man-crush over Stevens middle-ice checks. He was one of the best open ice bombers there has ever been. And dirtiest.

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Scott Stevens but I'm a bit biased, lol

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Stevens. His presence alone changed the way opponents played the game. I'm not sure the same can be said about Pronger.

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Pronger. Just an all-around amazing hockey player.

Stevens got quite overrated due to his big hits.

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