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Could a freakishly good female make it as a backup goalie in the NHL?

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01-27-2013, 06:39 PM
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Canadian women's team potential candidates facing a Junior B team and losing 6-2.
This, and Jr. B isn't even a super high level of Hockey. Hell, I almost made a Jr B team

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01-27-2013, 06:42 PM
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I actually disagree with that statement. An Olympic woman goalie could hack it with 15-18 year old's. Fairly easily.
Sept. 24, 2009 Calgary Flames Midget AAA Win, 3-2
Sept. 25, 2009 Calgary Bisons AAA Win, 6-5
Sept. 26, 2009 Calgary Royals AAA Win, 3-2
Sept. 27, 2009 Calgary Royals AAA (Championship Game) Win, 5-4

That would be the record of the Canadian women's team when prepping for the 2010 Olympics... they won but they've lost before... certainly not the easily you say...

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01-27-2013, 06:42 PM
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No, hockey is one of those sports where females will always be far inferior than males. It's just the way it is.

P.S. when ever I say this and a girl gets all in a huff about it, I always cite extreme long distance runs (such as a double marathon). That's something that females will always have a clear cut advantage over males.

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01-27-2013, 06:42 PM
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Canadian women's team potential candidates facing a Junior B team and losing 6-2.
I didn't say a whole team. Or I didn't mean a whole team.

I meant a goalie could easily hack it with Junior players -- as I know a girl who plays with a Junior team during the summers for training, and played with a University hockey team (men's). (I also know a girl who's played AAA guys league as well).

Of course as a whole team, girls are not as physical. But a back up goalie could easily hack it with 15-18 year olds. I didn't mean full girls team VS full Junior men's team it would be even.

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01-27-2013, 06:50 PM
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I didn't say a whole team. Or I didn't mean a whole team.

I meant a goalie could easily hack it with Junior players -- as I know a girl who plays with a Junior team during the summers for training, and played with a University hockey team (men's). (I also know a girl who's played AAA guys league as well).

Of course as a whole team, girls are not as physical. But a back up goalie could easily hack it with 15-18 year olds. I didn't mean full girls team VS full Junior men's team it would be even.
The goalie just let in 6 goals against a Junior B team...These aren't girls, these are Team Canada players.

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01-27-2013, 07:23 PM
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The goalie just let in 6 goals against a Junior B team...These aren't girls, these are Team Canada players.
Its an entire team of women, VS an entire team of almost men. Which is different.

One player on a team, is quite different than an entire team. (Girls play quite a different style of play than guys do, and so having a full team wouldn't likely work).

And since I've known individual girls who have played with guys in Junior B levels (although this was years ago). I know they have been able to "hack it" with them.

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01-27-2013, 07:29 PM
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Its an entire team of women, VS an entire team of almost men. Which is different.

One player on a team, is quite different than an entire team. (Girls play quite a different style of play than guys do, and so having a full team wouldn't likely work).

And since I've known individual girls who have played with guys in Junior B levels (although this was years ago). I know they have been able to "hack it" with them.
That's not the discussion. It may be well and good that some girl plays with guys at Junior B level but when a Junior B team destroys a goalie for 6 goals, what's going to happen with an NHL team shooting at a woman?

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01-27-2013, 07:32 PM
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Maybe if this female was brought up in the male hockey stream from youth, but she won't come from playing against other women. The level of competition is too low.

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01-27-2013, 07:36 PM
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That's not the discussion. It may be well and good that some girl plays with guys at Junior B level but when a Junior B team destroys a goalie for 6 goals, what's going to happen with an NHL team shooting at a woman?
See but you've missed the point.

A full team of women is NOT equal to one playing on a men's team.

Rachel Barrie played as a starter goalie in Junior B for 1999-2000. And she also played a Junior A game, and won.

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01-27-2013, 07:38 PM
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See but you've missed the point.

A full team of women is NOT equal to one playing on a men's team.

Rachel Barrie played as a starter goalie in Junior B for 1999-2000. And she also played a Junior A game, and won.
Junior B and Junior A. NHL. One woman won a Junior A game 13 years ago. Can one become a back up goalie in the NHL. That would mean a woman would have to be a competent goalie against NHLers 10-20 times a season. I just don't see it.

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01-27-2013, 07:43 PM
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Junior B and Junior A. NHL. One woman won a Junior A game 13 years ago. Can one become a back up goalie in the NHL. That would mean a woman would have to be a competent goalie against NHLers 10-20 times a season. I just don't see it.
I don't see it either (I voted no).

But you had stated that girls couldn't hack it with 15-18 year old Junior B guys. Which just isn't true (there have been the rare occasion where a girl HAS been able to hack it with the boys at that level).

A girl COULD do it, but it would require a girl to have some size on her, and to have grown up playing with guys and not girls hockey. There are a few girls who have played Junior hockey on guys teams, and have said if coming from girls hockey -- its on a whole other level.

But if a girl has some size on her, and grows up playing with guys. I could see her being competitive against an upper level. But it would never actually happen.

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01-27-2013, 07:48 PM
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To put this is in perspective... Shannon Szabados backstopped the Canadian team at the Olympics... decent AJHL goalie... now plays for a technical college in Edmonton. A woman would need to be 6'0 at least... and 180-190 pounds... to even have a chance
she won AJHL goalie of the year...

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01-27-2013, 07:56 PM
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Sept. 24, 2009 Calgary Flames Midget AAA Win, 3-2
Sept. 25, 2009 Calgary Bisons AAA Win, 6-5
Sept. 26, 2009 Calgary Royals AAA Win, 3-2
Sept. 27, 2009 Calgary Royals AAA (Championship Game) Win, 5-4

That would be the record of the Canadian women's team when prepping for the 2010 Olympics... they won but they've lost before... certainly not the easily you say...
I was in that age group when the AMHL played games against the Womens team the rules were changed. We were not allowed contact and basically were on a parade to the penalty box on the slighest bit of contact since a 130-140 pound women clearly gets man-handled (no pun intended) by 160-190 pound highschool athletes. The womens players were skilled but not exactly fast. Shannon Szabados was a better goalie than any kid in the league though. Biggest reason for Canada's success. Bt then again she had a successful Jr.A career (mens) before that.

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01-27-2013, 07:57 PM
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Maybe if this female was brought up in the male hockey stream from youth, but she won't come from playing against other women. The level of competition is too low.
Exactly this. I'm sure it's very possible from a physical/technical standpoint. The problem would come from the level of competition from youth programs.

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01-27-2013, 07:59 PM
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Only if she was good looking, then the NHL could market the hell out of her.

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Eventually a phenom will come along. They always do.
When has a phenom female athlete ever come along to compete against men at a professional level? There was that Michelle Wie thing fairly recently, but that completely fizzled out. Danica Patrick as well, but auto racing isn't really a sport.

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01-27-2013, 08:20 PM
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When has a phenom female athlete ever come along to compete against men at a professional level? There was that Michelle Wie thing fairly recently, but that completely fizzled out. Danica Patrick as well, but auto racing isn't really a sport.
Yeah..I was gonna say. There's that Chinese female swimmer that apparently is some kind of beast in the last Olympics, but it also isn't a physical team sport..

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That would have to be one pretty big lady. Average goaltender is what? 6'1" 200-220 lbs.

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That would have to be one pretty big lady. Average goaltender is what? 6'1" 200-220 lbs.
Ryan Miller is crazy skinny..6'2" 175 but he still has the height.

Jhonas Enroth is 5'10" 165 lbs. I've seen him out, he is a shrimp.

A girl could easily be 5'10 165 lbs

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A locker room for one player, lol.

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a female Hasek couldn't play in the ECHL.

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Nope. In fiction, probably not in real life.

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How about a woman plays well in the ECHL before we start caring about some woman who could play Junior A 13 years ago?

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6'4 200 pound female

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