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02-08-2013, 03:40 PM
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Grandlund brah

all the prospects brah

fletchers the best gm in the league brah

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Parise was looking for money Plain and simple. Now he's stuck playing for a mickey mouse operation for the rest of his career.

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Aww Parise is sick?

Sure he would feel better actually playing winning hockey.

Hell, we even have a blizzard this weekend! He would've felt right at home with this disgusting weather..

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Also known as Isles Flu. This condition has also been observed in Nabokov and Visnovsky.
Man Visnovsky must of died of that.

Oh poor Zach. But he is playing with his best friend, shouldn't he be happier?

That is great though team has been playing for like two weeks and they want to blow it up. I hope he checks the east standings every night and thinks "ya...I picked a winner "

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02-08-2013, 04:06 PM
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Grandlund brah

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Well, Granlund is pretty good, and Coyle and Brodin have been two of their best players.

But at the same time, Coyle and Brodin have been two of their best players. Clearly there's a problem with the veterans there.

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Parise was looking for money Plain and simple. Now he's stuck playing for a mickey mouse operation for the rest of his career.
Still a long time on his contract, and they probably won't be terrible forever, but I'm going to enjoy the schadenfreude for now.

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Well, Granlund is pretty good, and Coyle and Brodin have been two of their best players.

But at the same time, Coyle and Brodin have been two of their best players. Clearly there's a problem with the veterans there.



Still a long time on his contract, and they probably won't be terrible forever, but I'm going to enjoy the schadenfreude for now.
Still a lot of money on those contracts too

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02-08-2013, 04:27 PM
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Best of all is that Suter's underlying numbers have been garbage while Weber, even with just 1 assist so far, has been great possession-wise. The Wild just aren't a well-built team and the idea that they would compete after how bad they were last year is hi-LAR-ious.

This would have been the time for a franchise to look for improvement and work on becoming a contender while probably enduring some hard years. Instead they're mad that they're not leaps and bounds better than last year and the whole thing's crashing down. Idiots, all of them.

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02-08-2013, 04:29 PM
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Granlund has already been a healthy scratch and has been on the fourth line for a while. And now the reporters and fans are saying "maybe it wasn't such a good idea for management to cement a rookie into our 2C position before he plays a game in the NHL"

Who could have called that before the season? . . . . oh.

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02-08-2013, 04:37 PM
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This is why you build a team from the inside out. You can't rely on outside signings and trades to build a team. A big difference between the Rangers and us, and the Wild and say the Predators. It's hilarious that teams still do this.

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02-08-2013, 04:50 PM
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Salary cap will never go down brah

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02-08-2013, 04:53 PM
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Best of all is that Suter's underlying numbers have been garbage while Weber, even with just 1 assist so far, has been great possession-wise. The Wild just aren't a well-built team and the idea that they would compete after how bad they were last year is hi-LAR-ious.

This would have been the time for a franchise to look for improvement and work on becoming a contender while probably enduring some hard years. Instead they're mad that they're not leaps and bounds better than last year and the whole thing's crashing down. Idiots, all of them.
I watched plenty of Preds games the last 2 seasons. Always thought Suter was overrated.

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02-08-2013, 05:08 PM
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The Wild are struggling you say?

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02-08-2013, 05:16 PM
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It's the root of an underlying problem around the league right now.
Within fanbases and, even more dangerously, within organizations.

This belief that 1 (or even 2) superstars or an elite rookie can turn a bad team into a good team.

Some misconception that a bunch of great individuals will make a great team.

If you don't have a good coach to make all the parts sing harmoniously or a good GM to help surround your great talent with great role players... you're going to go nowhere.

There are plenty of perennial bottom feeders around the league that have held onto their world class talent while sputtering for years ... and they still haven't dug themselves out now.

It's part of why a team like the Devils, who understand not only what but who makes a great team, is always underrated.

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02-08-2013, 05:19 PM
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Best of all is that Suter's underlying numbers have been garbage while Weber, even with just 1 assist so far, has been great possession-wise. The Wild just aren't a well-built team and the idea that they would compete after how bad they were last year is hi-LAR-ious.

This would have been the time for a franchise to look for improvement and work on becoming a contender while probably enduring some hard years. Instead they're mad that they're not leaps and bounds better than last year and the whole thing's crashing down. Idiots, all of them.
This is what I been saying all along. Parise, and Suter make the Wild PLAYOFF contenders. not CHAMPIONSHIP contenders. I said last season when I shot down Parise to the Wild (I was wrong there, but perhaps I gave Zach too much credit. Way too much) that they still aren't even a lock to make the playoffs if you add him to their team.

I even got a nice private message weeks after Zach signed in Minnesota. Some pompous Wild fan picking one of my quotes where I said ''Parise would never go to the Wild'' and him saying ''Thanks for the laugh!'' I'm sure some of you who also said that got a message from this jerk off too.

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02-08-2013, 05:36 PM
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This is what I been saying all along. Parise, and Suter make the Wild PLAYOFF contenders. not CHAMPIONSHIP contenders. I said last season when I shot down Parise to the Wild (I was wrong there, but perhaps I gave Zach too much credit. Way too much) that they still aren't even a lock to make the playoffs if you add him to their team.

I even got a nice private message weeks after Zach signed in Minnesota. Some pompous Wild fan picking one of my quotes where I said ''Parise would never go to the Wild'' and him saying ''Thanks for the laugh!'' I'm sure some of you who also said that got a message from this jerk off too.
We all laughed at it because it was the dumbest place for him to go if you took his "I want to win" crap at face value. I mean at least you could respect him a bit if he took a bit less then Suter and the two of them went to Detroit.

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We all laughed at it because it was the dumbest place for him to go if you took his "I want to win" crap at face value. I mean at least you could respect him a bit if he took a bit less then Suter and the two of them went to Detroit.
I was positive they were both going to Detroit. Unlike the Wild, they really WOULD have turned the Wings into a contender, and with everything Parise said about winning, I was all set to hear about how he took a discount to go play with Detroit with Ryan Suter to try and win a cup. But nope. Must've been about the money. We should've taken a hint with everything his dad said.

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I was positive they were both going to Detroit. Unlike the Wild, they really WOULD have turned the Wings into a contender, and with everything Parise said about winning, I was all set to hear about how he took a discount to go play with Detroit with Ryan Suter to try and win a cup. But nope. Must've been about the money. We should've taken a hint with everything his dad said.
Well I specifically read somewhere that Detroit did match Minn's offer on Suter, but wouldn't pay Zach the same. The best buddies wanted to make the same crazy high amount of money and that is why they turned the Wings down. Detroit isn't stupid though, they weren't going to overpay for Zach and lose cap flexibility to put a team around them.

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We all laughed at it because it was the dumbest place for him to go if you took his "I want to win" crap at face value. I mean at least you could respect him a bit if he took a bit less then Suter and the two of them went to Detroit.
Yeah I would have respected him more if he went there after his winning garbage. And if he hadn't led everyone on about wanting to come back after the SCF ended. He was giving subtle hints too like when he said ''You work hard your whole career to be able to make it to UFA'' this was mid season sometime too. Then after that he wouldn't answer anymore questions about free agency until after the SCF had ended.

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Granlund has already been a healthy scratch and has been on the fourth line for a while. And now the reporters and fans are saying "maybe it wasn't such a good idea for management to cement a rookie into our 2C position before he plays a game in the NHL"

Who could have called that before the season? . . . . oh.
I'm pretty sure I had a few posts making that point too. Granlund is a hell of a talent, but the Wild fans were definitely putting the cart before the horse.

But we'll see. It's a short season, but there's still 3/4s of it to go.

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I'm pretty sure I had a few posts making that point too. Granlund is a hell of a talent, but the Wild fans were definitely putting the cart before the horse.

But we'll see. It's a short season, but there's still 3/4s of it to go.
It is just unheard of as a Devils fan to think about. Can anyone imagine Lou saying "We've got this 20 year old kid who has never played in the NHL, but he is our 2C"

The funny thing is a lot of Minny fans that describe him talk about his small size and the fact he is not a fast or even good skater. Going to be a hard transition no matter how many points you put up overseas if you are slow and undersized, in the NHL.

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It is just unheard of as a Devils fan to think about. Can anyone imagine Lou saying "We've got this 20 year old kid who has never played in the NHL, but he is our 2C"

The funny thing is a lot of Minny fans that describe him talk about his small size and the fact he is not a fast or even good skater. Going to be a hard transition no matter how many points you put up overseas if you are slow and undersized, in the NHL.
We did it with Gomez, but that's more of an anomaly than anything. Most players and teams can't do that.

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We did it with Gomez, but that's more of an anomaly than anything. Most players and teams can't do that.
Did Gomez earn it, or did Lou just guarantee him the position before he had played an NHL game and announce it to the media?

Honest question, I wasn't around then.

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I'm pretty sure Gomez earned it. No way they just handed the role to him. The only time I can recall a prospect getting handed the spot was Bergfors being guaranteed a top 6 spot, and even that was after he'd already spent four years in the AHL.

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