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02-03-2013, 07:59 PM
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Another guy who is Klesla in Phoenix. I think he could do the job for awhile.

One way or the other the biggest hole on this roster is a left handed defensive defenseman.
I don't know who this player is or how we get them onto our team, but that's the biggest hole on the roster right now.

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02-03-2013, 08:08 PM
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So if the Jets want Smid, I have no doubt it won't be money the reason he doesn't come here. But there is many other factors, and I can't see Winnipeg being appealing to a player playing for Edmonton (our current is barely better, our future is not considered as bright, VERY similiar cities), he may as well re-sign in EDM.
Because of good friend and former teammate Ondrej Pavalec?

Honestly I have no idea if they are friends but they played together during the lockout and the '06 Czech junior team. Dare to dream.

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02-03-2013, 11:41 PM
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Random thought:

I had no idea that Myers has been struggling so badly. I'd love to see what Huddy could do with him but it probably wouldn't be worth the price tag given the risk involved and I doubt that the Sabres are ready to give up on him this early.

His rookie year was amazing. I thought he would end up as Chara 2.0 (and he still may).
He'll never, ever be Chara 2.0. he just doesn't have that mean play in his game.

That being said I still think he ends up a great defenseman, I just don't think you'll see him wiping guys out along the boards ala Chara.

I also think he's actually a better puck mover than Chara. He can actually lead a rush up the ice and has better passing. I like Chara's shot better though.

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02-04-2013, 12:13 AM
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Seto is apparently on the block again, not sure if the Jets and Wild match up well in a trade but he would look excellent in the 2nd line RW spot.

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02-04-2013, 12:31 AM
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Dont shoot me, quick overhaul, any of these feasible?

To PHX
Kyle Wellwood
Al Montoya

To WPG
Rusty Klesla

===

To BUF
Alex Burmistrov
Chicago 2013 2nd
Winnipeg 2013 2nd

To WPG
Tyler Myers
Buffalo 2013 4th
Buffalo 2014 3rd

===

To MIN
Paul Postma
Carl Klingberg

To WPG
Devin Setoguchi

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To LA
Ron Hainsey

To WPG
Andrei Loktionov

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Kane - Jokinen - Wheeler
Ladd - Scheifele - Setoguchi
Lokitionov - Antropov - Little
Thorburn - Slater - Wright

Byfuglien - Enstrom
Myers - Klesla (Bogosian)
Redmond - Clitsome (Klesla)

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02-04-2013, 12:45 AM
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Two 2nd rounders and a very good defensive forward who does not produce offensively does not net you Tyler Myers. Just my opinion.

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02-04-2013, 04:14 AM
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Dont shoot me, quick overhaul, any of these feasible?

To PHX
Kyle Wellwood
Al Montoya

To WPG
Rusty Klesla

===

To BUF
Alex Burmistrov
Chicago 2013 2nd
Winnipeg 2013 2nd

To WPG
Tyler Myers
Buffalo 2013 4th
Buffalo 2014 3rd

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To MIN
Paul Postma
Carl Klingberg

To WPG
Devin Setoguchi

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To LA
Ron Hainsey

To WPG
Andrei Loktionov

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Kane - Jokinen - Wheeler
Ladd - Scheifele - Setoguchi
Lokitionov - Antropov - Little
Thorburn - Slater - Wright

Byfuglien - Enstrom
Myers - Klesla (Bogosian)
Redmond - Clitsome (Klesla)

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Well, yes, if we managed to rip off almost every team in the league then of course we'd have a better lineup.

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02-04-2013, 04:29 AM
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Well, yes, if we managed to rip off almost every team in the league then of course we'd have a better lineup.
Are we Toronto level yet?

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02-04-2013, 09:07 AM
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Seto is apparently on the block again, not sure if the Jets and Wild match up well in a trade but he would look excellent in the 2nd line RW spot.
I'd have to think they'd be looking for a 2nd line RW to replace him and Wellwood isn't an upgrade for them.

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He'll never, ever be Chara 2.0. he just doesn't have that mean play in his game.
To be fair, Chara doesn't really have that mean play in his game anymore.

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02-04-2013, 09:41 AM
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Well, yes, if we managed to rip off almost every team in the league then of course we'd have a better lineup.
What are you talkin about?? Most teams would love to pick up some average pending UFA players or later round picks for one of their roster players.

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02-04-2013, 10:07 AM
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Seto is apparently on the block again, not sure if the Jets and Wild match up well in a trade but he would look excellent in the 2nd line RW spot.
What is wrong with Bryan Little in that spot? I like him there.

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02-04-2013, 10:40 AM
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What is wrong with Bryan Little in that spot? I like him there.
I like Little more than Setoguchi for sure.

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02-04-2013, 11:01 AM
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To be fair, Chara doesn't really have that mean play in his game anymore.
Err, I think pretty much every forward in the league would disagree with that statement.

Chara may be a bit more selective, especially in the regular season, but he still has a mean streak a mile wide.

These are all either this season or last:






He is still a huge man with a pretty bad temper and little patience for people hitting him.


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02-04-2013, 12:30 PM
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Just ask Burmi

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02-04-2013, 12:59 PM
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To be fair Chara is part of a very small () group of high results performers...
I'd say these are the 25 best tough match-ups defensemen when looking at results.
Chara has the best possession stats for out-chancing their opponents on the list the 6th best point production



Off topic but random:
I've realized I never really have mentioned the difference between "raw Corsi" (aka Corsi or CorsiOn) vs "relative Corsi" (aka RelCorsi)...
CorsiOn as most here now know is basically +/- but is shots, goals, blocked shots and missed attempts (divided by TOI) while that player is on the ice.
CorsiOff is the team's Corsi for when the player is off the ice (so measures how the team does Corsi-wise without the player).
RelCorsi is the difference between the two, which is (IMHO somewhat loose but works to a degree) way to reduce "team affects"...

Examples:
Chara out chances his opponents by 17.54 Corsi, but he's on a stronger team who has a Corsi of 4.54 when he's not on the ice, so his RelCorsi is 13.0
Enstrom out chances his opponents by 11.18 Corsi, but he's on a weaker team who has a Corsi of -3.36 when he's not on the ice, so his RelCorsi is 14.5
For a huge swing: Weber is out-chanced by -0.90 Corsi, but his team is very weak possession wise without him (they do well thanks to Rinne and Weber/Suter) -12.06 Corsi, so his ReCorsi is 11.2

It doesn't take in case usage, like how tough of minutes they face, OZS, etc...


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02-04-2013, 07:27 PM
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We need a big number 1 centre, how about Ryan Johansen, he has the Potential to become that.

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Bryan Little
2nd round pick this year(the highest one we have in this years draft in the 2nd round).

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02-04-2013, 07:32 PM
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2nd round pick this year(the highest one we have in this years draft in the 2nd round).
#59...

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02-04-2013, 07:42 PM
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We need a big number 1 centre, how about Ryan Johansen, he has the Potential to become that.

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Ryan Johansen


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Bryan Little
2nd round pick this year(the highest one we have in this years draft in the 2nd round).
I don't see him as a sure thing.

I also don't understand what is in that nove for CBJ.

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02-04-2013, 09:27 PM
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We need a big number 1 centre, how about Ryan Johansen, he has the Potential to become that.

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Ryan Johansen


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Bryan Little
2nd round pick this year(the highest one we have in this years draft in the 2nd round).
Can't see what motivation Columbus has to do this. Not only do they not have a #1 Center either, they never have had one ever...

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02-05-2013, 08:39 AM
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Can't see what motivation Columbus has to do this. Not only do they not have a #1 Center either, they never have had one ever...
Little played first-line center last year

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#59...

That is the lowest , that is the third of three second round picks , presuming Chicago or Winnipeg doesn't finish right at the top of the standings.

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Jets waive Aaron Gagnon. Link

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Wicked. Maybe we'll get lucky and someone will claim him.

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He has to clear waivers before being assigned to St John's.

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02-07-2013, 12:57 AM
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Wicked. Maybe we'll get lucky and someone will claim him.
Nobody's that stupid. He probably won't even crack St. John's lineup on a regular basis, that's how bad he has been this season...

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