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02-09-2013, 10:51 AM
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I think it would be Burmi +
I'd be good with that too.

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I'd be good with that too.
Yea me too.

It doesn't sound like McPhee plans on making any ground breaking moves.

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Yea me too.

It doesn't sound like McPhee plans on making any ground breaking moves.
I sense Leonsis is the hands on type and George has limitations but I might be wrong

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If Washington decides to blow it up (i know George said he wasn't going to do that), how do guys feel about Backstrom? Is that someone that the Jets should trade for, and if so, what would it take? Little+2nd (Chi)+???
A 25 year old ppg #1 center signed at a good cap hit until his 33rd birthday? Think Kane and then add.

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A 25 year old ppg #1 center signed at a good cap hit until his 33rd birthday? Think Kane and then add.
I would consider that depending on how much we have to add with Kane.....I am a very big fan of Backy And there are not may PPG centres in this league any more. Caps would not touch this IMHO unless our plus was big.

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A 25 year old ppg #1 center signed at a good cap hit until his 33rd birthday? Think Kane and then add.
Agree. He is exactly what we need, but we don't have nearly the depth to deal for him. Also, that long absence last year with the concussion adds a risk premium to what would already be a prohibitively expensive deal.
But, maybe if David Thompson agreed to take on Ovie's bloated contract they'd throw Backstrom in as a freebee.

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The plus would probably be Scheifele/Trouba/Burmistrov and then a non first round pick.

To scelaton - last year even with the concussion he put up 44 points in 40 games. He's been above a ppg in every year except two. One of those as a rookie where he put up 69 points.

Lets be honest, he's not gonna be available and If he was wed be outbid by a team with better depth.

He's the guy Washington should build around. Trading him makes no sense imo

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02-09-2013, 12:19 PM
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Backstrom would cost a fortune and from the few times I've seen him
this season it looks like he's more a part of the problem there, than the solution.

Basically, not a guy I'd like to see them pay the price for.

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02-09-2013, 12:21 PM
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The plus would probably be Scheifele/Trouba/Burmistrov and then a non first round pick.

To scelaton - last year even with the concussion he put up 44 points in 40 games. He's been above a ppg in every year except two. One of those as a rookie where he put up 69 points.

Lets be honest, he's not gonna be available and If he was wed be outbid by a team with better depth.

He's the guy Washington should build around. Trading him makes no sense imo
Count me out big time on trading Kane and one of those 3 for Backstrom.

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Backstrom would cost a fortune and from the few times I've seen him
this season it looks like he's more a part of the problem there, than the solution.

Basically, not a guy I'd like to see them pay the price for.
I agree.

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I'm not sure if its wise to look at his last 11 games on a 2-8-1 Washington team, as opposed to his other 365 NHL games ( in which he has 367 points)

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I'm not sure if its wise to look at his last 11 games on a 2-8-1 Washington team, as opposed to his other 365 NHL games ( in which he has 367 points)
I'm not basing my opinion of him on just this season. He's a talented player no doubt, but not anywhere close to the type of guy I would give up multiple high end pieces to get.

Some people like him, and that's fine. I'm not saying they're wrong, but I don't like him enough to gut the team for him.

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I'd give up a significant amount to get Backstrom. We have a lot of guys on this team that are good, but aren't game changers. Backstrom can be a game changer. I think he needs to get away from that Washington gongshow.

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The plus would probably be Scheifele/Trouba/Burmistrov and then a non first round pick.

To scelaton - last year even with the concussion he put up 44 points in 40 games. He's been above a ppg in every year except two. One of those as a rookie where he put up 69 points.

Lets be honest, he's not gonna be available and If he was wed be outbid by a team with better depth.

He's the guy Washington should build around. Trading him makes no sense imo
My point about added risk was that he put up all or most of those points before his concussion. Don't get me wrong, I think Backstrom is immensely talented and, injury free, he would be just what we needed. But, we are all familiar with great players who have had serious concussions from which they have never fully recovered or, at least, have cut short brilliant careers.

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Capitals are not going to trade Backstrom. At the rate we're going, we can draft another Backstrom type in Elias Lindholm.

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There is no way the Hawks give up Hammer he is way to valuable to them. If the Jets were going to target anyone from the Hawks it would be Leddy. The Hawks also have some contracts that need to come off the books and the Jets can help there, taking back a guy like Frolik or Olesz to ether lower the cost of acquiring Leddy or adding an additional prospect from Chicago's deep system could be a win, win for both sides.

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I sense Leonsis is the hands on type and George has limitations but I might be wrong
Either way, I doubt that they will blow it up just yet.

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It looks to me that Backstrom's point production has already peeked but he still produces at low end 1C (not looking at TOI factors).

YEARG/60A1/60P/60OnIceSh%
2007 0.52 1.04 2.18 9.68
2008 0.40 1.11 2.22 9.80
2009 1.03 1.17 3.03 12.45
2010 0.57 0.82 2.01 8.72
2011 0.99 0.50 2.08 8.61
2012 0.39 0.79 1.96 8.70

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There is no way the Hawks give up Hammer he is way to valuable to them. If the Jets were going to target anyone from the Hawks it would be Leddy. The Hawks also have some contracts that need to come off the books and the Jets can help there, taking back a guy like Frolik or Olesz to ether lower the cost of acquiring Leddy or adding an additional prospect from Chicago's deep system could be a win, win for both sides.
That could be reality, but more than likely in the off season though.

I want nothing to do with Olesz though. Frolik could be okay. Maybe Dylan Olsen can be had. He is a lefty.

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That could be reality, but more than likely in the off season though.

I want nothing to do with Olesz though. Frolik could be okay. Maybe Dylan Olsen can be had. He is a lefty.
I want nothing to do with them ether but taking one of them off Chicago's hands has got to be worth something. The Jets can then buyout or bury the player.

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Burrying a player doesn't have the same effect under the new CBA. Player salary still counts against cap (or most of it).

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Burrying a player doesn't have the same effect under the new CBA. Player salary still counts against cap (or most of it).
Yes but the Jets have the cap space to do that if it gets them a better return.

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02-09-2013, 02:45 PM
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Hope Jets put a claim in for TB FWD Dana Tyrell. Got good wheels and size, solid 4th line player, gives them a legitmate 13th forward.

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Hope Jets put a claim in for TB FWD Dana Tyrell. Got good wheels and size, solid 4th line player, gives them a legitmate 13th forward.
Haven't watched the kid myself much so have to fall a lot on stats...
Here's him lined up against Thorburn:
http://www.behindthenet.ca/nhl_stati...67+17+18+19+20

Looks like more offense (although this season has been a tad lucky) and usually better defensively, except for this season...
It would be worth a shot as he could very well be the 4th line piece to fit better with Wright and Slater.

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We're not in a position to trade for a guy like Backstrom. Teams that are are ones that are playoff teams with some depth and can afford to give up youth, prospects, and picks. Think like the Rags trading for Nash.

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Haven't watched the kid myself much so have to fall a lot on stats...
Here's him lined up against Thorburn:
http://www.behindthenet.ca/nhl_stati...67+17+18+19+20

Looks like more offense (although this season has been a tad lucky) and usually better defensively, except for this season...
It would be worth a shot as he could very well be the 4th line piece to fit better with Wright and Slater.
The best thing about that chart is how little ice Thorburn has been getting.

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