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[MTL] P.K. Subban re-signed (2 years, $2.875M per)

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01-28-2013, 07:32 PM
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Good contract. Players salaries really need to come down. They don´t need hundreds of millions.

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01-28-2013, 07:33 PM
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Cause every player is like Cosby and Stamkos. Look at Phaneuf. "The next Pronger!" How'd that turn out?
That's a great comparison. The new Canadiens Front office is not too familiar with Subban. I think the last thing they wanted to do was sign him to a long term big money deal. P.K is a great personality but part of him thinks he's arrived and is big man on campus.

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01-28-2013, 07:33 PM
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Cause every player is like Cosby and Stamkos. Look at Phaneuf. "The next Pronger!" How'd that turn out?
Phaneuf was always overrated and never as good as people claimed he was. If you think Subban is going to forgot this whole incident and that lowball offer that he didnt have much choice in accepting you're dreaming buddy. You treat your players with respect and they will for the most part do the same. You low ball players or try to screw them in arbitration then they do things like sign offer sheets: Weber, play when they feel like it: to many players to mention, request to be traded or leave the second they hit the UFA market.

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01-28-2013, 07:34 PM
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Come on guys... Subban has always been a Habs fan ever since he was young. His whole family grew up watching the Montréal Canadiens. This is the place he wanted to play more than all. Now he's here and he gets the crowd to go crazy when he's on the ice. Why would he even want to leave ?

If he was that angry with this signing right now, he'd have asked to be traded before. The deal isn't all that horrible. 2m for the first year, 3,75m for the second year. He surely knows that in 2 years, if he plays greatly like he has yet, he's going to cash big.

He had to go through that contract, Pacioretty and Price both went through the same deals and now Price has a big contract, nothing to complain about.

It's a fair deal for both parties. Now it's up to PK to prove he's worth a 6 years 36 million contract in 2 years.

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01-28-2013, 07:34 PM
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In Price's case. He had all the leverage in the world. "Fine, don't pay me nearly seven million. I'll sign elsewhere and leave you with no goalie."

Guess what Subban could do.
Explain how Price could sign elsewhere.

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Whatever, the qual offers had an impact. Well, not much, since the Cup was had.
"Whatever": Fixing factual errors in arguments since...never.

The qualifying offers gaffe was before their cup winning season, i.e. summer of 2009.

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And the Hawks roster is so awful right now that they are 6-0.
Yeahhhhhhhh....because 2010-11 (almost missing the playoffs) and 2011-12 (pretty poor defensive performance during the season and early playoff exit) never happened?

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I wish this never happens to Montreal. That would suck immensely. Having to part ways with Ryan White and Francis Bouillon will kill us bro.
Of course. As would I with Dallas. However, will a time come when we cannot keep all of Benn, Eriksson, Kari, _________, __________? Very likely.

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01-28-2013, 07:34 PM
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Phenomenal deal for Montreal. I expected double, or close to it, for twice as many years or more.

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01-28-2013, 07:35 PM
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Interesting. Not sure why you wouldn't lock up Subban cheaper now... but okay.

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01-28-2013, 07:35 PM
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Most of the posters whining that Subban got lowballed are likely the same ones that complained he was a locker room cancer...and suddenly they care?


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01-28-2013, 07:35 PM
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Price and Pacioretty did not receive lowball offers after their bridge contract. They are both long term on the Habs.
in fact Bergevin broke into Pacioretty's second year of his bridge deal and signed him for 6 more years - 7 total

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01-28-2013, 07:36 PM
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How do you say "suck it haters" in French?

Seriously, I bet this isn't the only time a RFA is unhappy with a bridge contract, but thats how you build a winner. Not by overpaying your homegrown talent.

Well done MB

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Phaneuf was always overrated and never as good as people claimed he was. If you think Subban is going to forgot this whole incident and that lowball offer that he didnt have much choice in accepting you're dreaming buddy. You treat your players with respect and they will for the most part do the same. You low ball players or try to screw them in arbitration then they do things like sign offer sheets: Weber, play when they feel like it: to many players to mention, request to be traded or leave the second they hit the UFA market.
Subban loves montreal and he demonstrated this by signing the contract. The bonus isvthat he is a RFA at the end of it.

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01-28-2013, 07:37 PM
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Pk is a good guy. Pay your dues and cash in in 2 years.

THis guy will be a Hab for a very very long time.

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01-28-2013, 07:38 PM
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So he will ask for $6M. What of it?
Oh, just a difference between paying thirty million and possibly forty, with a higher cap hit to boot.

6ys/30M vs. 2ys/5.75M and 5ys/32.5-35M

Not hard to see which is a better cap hit down the road.

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Umm no. Not in the slightest. I know it's a great deal for Montreal. Once again, why is reading comprehension so difficult?
Great deal is an understatement! Laughing at all those who claimed that Subban had the leverage.

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01-28-2013, 07:39 PM
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Oh, just a difference between paying thirty million and possibly forty, with a higher cap hit to boot.

6ys/30M vs. 2ys/5.75M and 5ys/32.5-35M

Not hard to see which is a better cap hit down the road.
Oh I forgot you had a crystal ball and a microphone in the discussion room. Your numbers are meaningless.

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01-28-2013, 07:39 PM
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Subban is dumb as bricks, He could have easily gotten a huge deal in the 4.5m+ range from another team long term.

He gave in, and caved.

What if he gets a huge injury in the next year, say goodbye to at least 20M guaranteed.

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01-28-2013, 07:40 PM
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Wish we didn't have to wait til summer to buy out Kaberle

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for those trying to argue that Subban looks foolish now and that he held out only to sign what was originally offered/less money than he wanted, it is quite likely that Montreal would have prefered to sign him to a middling contract for longer term. Subban likely wanted shorter term while not giving up too much cash.

In the end Subban conceded cash (somewhat) and Bergevin conceded term and everyone is happy.

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01-28-2013, 07:41 PM
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Oh, just a difference between paying thirty million and possibly forty, with a higher cap hit to boot.

6ys/30M vs. 2ys/5.75M and 5ys/32.5-35M

Not hard to see which is a better cap hit down the road.
Except there is no risk eith the bridge contract! Markov and kabby come off the books soon. Subban now has to play hard and earn the next contract. Ball is in his court!

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01-28-2013, 07:41 PM
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Subban is dumb as bricks, He could have easily gotten a huge deal in the 4.5m+ range from another team long germ.

He gave in, and caved.

What if he gets a huge injury in the next year, say goodbye to at least 20M guaranteed.
You can´t think like that. I mean Subban could get hit by a car tomorrow and die = no money for him.
He is never gonna be a poor man in his life.

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01-28-2013, 07:42 PM
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Subban is still very young, still learning and maturing.

Kids in today's society want everything right now. The worst thing you can do as a parent, a mentor or a boss, is to bend over and give him everything he want's right now. Glad to see Bergevin and Co. not bending over to please the kid. You gotta learn to earn. Giving all that money right now to Subban COULD have killed the fire inside of him.

Some good old-school teaching right here by the Canadiens brass.


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Oh, just a difference between paying thirty million and possibly forty, with a higher cap hit to boot.

6ys/30M vs. 2ys/5.75M and 5ys/32.5-35M

Not hard to see which is a better cap hit down the road.
Your argument is based on "if"s. You got a crystal ball there in your pocket?

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for those trying to argue that Subban looks foolish now and that he held out only to sign what was originally offered/less money than he wanted, it is quite likely that Montreal would have prefered to sign him to a middling contract for longer term. Subban likely wanted shorter term while not giving up too much cash.

In the end Subban conceded cash (somewhat) and Bergevin conceded term and everyone is happy.
I am sorry but you have to kid yourself at thinking Subban is happy with the contract he just got, He accepted it because he is a ***** and pressure got 2 him.

That's the only reason. Subban is worth 4m+ easily right now, maybe even 5m+

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Subban is dumb as bricks, He could have easily gotten a huge deal in the 4.5m+ range from another team long germ.

He gave in, and caved.

What if he gets a huge injury in the next year, say goodbye to at least 20M guaranteed.
Why is he dumb as bricks? Because he put his childhood team ahead of himself? It's not always about the money.

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