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09-22-2003, 09:08 AM
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McKeen's updated Habs depth chart

Here's McKeen's updated depth chart for the Habs roster. Maybe this can spark some discussion about where our players currently stand within the organization. Do you agree? Disagree? Find it unrealistic?

OFFENSE

Jan Bulis - Saku Koivu - Richard Zednik
Donald Audette - Mike Ribeiro - Michael Ryder
Niklas Sundstrom - Yanic Perreault - Jason Ward
Marcel Hossa - Joe Juneau - Alexander Perezhogin
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Chris Higgins - Benoit Gratton - Andreas Dackell
Chad Kilger - Tomas Plekanec - Joseph Balej
Pierre Dagenais - Jonathan Ferland - Duncan Milroy
Gordie Dwyer - Christian Larivee - Marc-Andre Thinel
Sylvain Blouin
Jerome Marois

DEFENSE

Andrei Markov - Craig Rivet
Sheldon Souray - Patrice Brisebois
Stephane Quintal - Mike Komisarek
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Karl Dykhuis - Francis Bouillon
Ron Hainsey - Francois Beauchemin
Martti Jarventie - Patrick Traverse
Matt Shasby - Andrew Archer

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I want Bouillon to play for the HABS this year. He deserves it. He plays like he`s 6foot3. The isnt afraid of anything. i`d take him over Rivet any day.

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I would like to say that I'm very happy to see Traverse so low. It seems we're not the only ones thinking this guy is not NHL caliber.

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It looks good but I don't think!!

Hossa, Perhezogin win the job in big club, unless management really believes on those guys.

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I would like to say that I'm very happy to see Traverse so low. It seems we're not the only ones thinking this guy is not NHL caliber.
Personally, I think he`s not even AHL caliber.

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Kilger just signed new cheap contract and management

likes him so he'll probably keep his spot on big club.

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likes him so he'll probably keep his spot on big club.
I think it's likely they put him there because of his injury. He would normally be higher and they migh update it again if we learn it's nothing serious.

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Hainsey below Dykhuis???

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A few thoughts I had on the McKeen roster.

I don't think Audette ever played left wing.

Kilger as #6 LW??? No way.

Perezhogin probably won't be in the Canadiens starting lineup, but he might come in mid-season, IMO.

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I don't think Audette ever played left wing.
That's right. But Ryder did in Hamilton, so he could likely do it here again (although for that we'd have to agree he's 2nd line material first).

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Kilger as #6 LW??? No way.
Like I said above, McKeen's usually take into account injuries and the likeliness of any given player to start the season with the team so I beleive he's unusually low on their depth chart as a result of the serious injury he had. If we learn he didn't lose vision and could come back early, maybe with a protector, then I think they might update it again (which they usually do).

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Perezhogin probably won't be in the Canadiens starting lineup, but he might come in mid-season, IMO.
I agree. I don't think either there's a chance for him to start in Montreal. And it wouldn't be a great thing to play him on the 4th either.

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I have a few problems with it. I'm gonna explain them by doing one myself... as of this moment (injuries aside)...

LW ----- C ------ RW
Zednik - Koivu - Sundstrom
Bulis - Perreault - Ward
Hossa - Ribeiro - Audette
Kilger - Juneau - Ryder
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Dwyer - Higgins - Dackell
Dagenais - Gratton - Perezhogin
Blouin - Plekanec - Balej
Marois - Larivee - Ferland
Milroy

LD ------ RD
Markov - Rivet
Souray - Brisebois
Hainsey - Komisarek
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Dykhuis - Quintal
Bouillon - Archer
Beauchemin
Traverse

Slight change... Sundstrom IS normally a RW, so I put him there on my depth chart.

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09-22-2003, 09:58 AM
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Yes, Dykhuis ahead of Hainsey. In the game against Boston, Dykhuis was excellent, Hainsey was not. In the Ottawa game, Hainsey was paired with Komisarek, and they didn't click, mostly because of Hainsey. He should spend time in Hamilton and learn defense from Doug Jarvis.

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Bulis - Perreault - Audette
I would hate having to cope with Perreault and Audette on the same line. I think I would look away every time they would jump on the ice. Two little soft, inconsistent one-dimensional snipers together and nobody to feed them (Bulis isn't exactly an elite level passer)? That would make for a long season. I'd rather switch Perreault and Ribeiro on your lines. The rest of your lines looks fine.

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Yes, Dykhuis ahead of Hainsey. In the game against Boston, Dykhuis was excellent, Hainsey was not. In the Ottawa game, Hainsey was paired with Komisarek, and they didn't click, mostly because of Hainsey. He should spend time in Hamilton and learn defense from Doug Jarvis.
I would question your comment about Hainsey and Komo not clicking. They played together in Hamilton and were a force, complementing each other very nicely.

On the other hand, I would agree that a guy like Jarvis is the best thing that could happen to Hainsey at this stage of his developement (much more than CJ who appears to be a softer coach). Jarvis is the man of the situation when it comes to learning defense, humbleing down a bit and starting working your butt off every night.

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I'm very happy to read that bot Ryder and Ward are on the first 3 lines...
Two player who deserve to be in the NHL THIS YEAR...

Even if I prefer Ward instead of Ryder, I think that Ryder deserve to be higher than Ward in the depth chart cause of his OUTSTANDING camp so far.. For be, he is the revelation of camp..

Not that Ward is not showing great things in camp, but Ryder is showing more right now than J.Ward..

But both deserve to be in the NHL... I think that Ward have good camp so far. But I dunno if he is gonna plays on the 3rd or 4th...

I would like to see Ryder-Ward and Higgins, all three on te habs roster..

and why not together on the 3rd???

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I would hate having to cope with Perreault and Audette on the same line. I think I would look away every time they would jump on the ice. Two little soft, inconsistent one-dimensional snipers together and nobody to feed them (Bulis isn't exactly an elite level passer)? That would make for a long season. I'd rather switch Perreault and Ribeiro on your lines. The rest of your lines looks fine.
I hear ya, but these are not my lines... it's a depth chart. I simply put the players in order of their on-ice value to the team and position. My lines...

Bulis/Hossa - Koivu - Audette
Hossa/Bulis - Ribeiro - Zednik
Sundstrom - Perreault - Ward
Kilger - Juneau - Ryder

Dackell, Dwyer

Markov - Komisarek
Souray - Rivet
Quintal - Brisebois

Dykhuis

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I hear ya, but these are not my lines... it's a depth chart. I simply put the players in order of their on-ice value to the team and position. My lines...

Bulis/Hossa - Koivu - Audette
Hossa/Bulis - Ribeiro - Zednik
Sundstrom - Perreault - Ward
Kilger - Juneau - Ryder

Dackell, Dwyer

Markov - Komisarek
Souray - Rivet
Quintal - Brisebois

Dykhuis
Yes, makes more sense, although I don't think Hossa has earned a spot on the top 2 lines just yet with the average camp he's having so far. But it works (Although Komisarek on the first D pairing is risky stuff).

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Yes, makes more sense, although I don't think Hossa has earned a spot on the top 2 lines just yet with the average camp he's having so far. But it works (Although Komisarek on the first D pairing is risky stuff).
Hossa? I just think he'd be the perfect fit for Koivu and Audette if he'd show some consistancy. Ribeiro and Audette haven't really "earned" top line duty either, but I'd give it to them anyway to showcase them if nothing else.

You're probably right about Komisarek. Try switching him and Rivet...

Markov - Rivet
Souray - Komisarek
Quintal - Brisebois

Dykhuis

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I hear ya, but these are not my lines... it's a depth chart. I simply put the players in order of their on-ice value to the team and position. My lines...

Bulis/Hossa - Koivu - Audette
Hossa/Bulis - Ribeiro - Zednik
Sundstrom - Perreault - Ward
Kilger - Juneau - Ryder

Dackell, Dwyer

Markov - Komisarek
Souray - Rivet
Quintal - Brisebois

Dykhuis
i like your lines but i would like ryder being on the 3rd line

Bulis/Hossa - Koivu - Audette
Hossa/Bulis - Ribeiro - Zednik
Ryder- Perreault - Sundstrom
Juneau - Kilger - Ward

Dackell, Dwyer

Markov - Rivet
Souray - Komisarek
Quintal - Brisebois

Edit: the only player i am not sure about i Hossa, i havent seen him play but i have heard he is not playing well?

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Yes, Dykhuis ahead of Hainsey. In the game against Boston, Dykhuis was excellent, Hainsey was not. In the Ottawa game, Hainsey was paired with Komisarek, and they didn't click, mostly because of Hainsey. He should spend time in Hamilton and learn defense from Doug Jarvis.
Hainsey and Komisarek not doing well together against Ottawa? First, have you even seen this game? I watched it, and I can tell he was among the team's three best skaters Saturday night. He was everywhere on the ice, and contributed in every aspect of the game (yes, including defensive coverage). I feel he did a pretty good job on the powerplay as he did have his chances, and was outstanding for first passes all night long.

Definatly, I can't see how you can make such a comment without explaining or bringing any facts to the table.

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Where's Dagenais?


This list doesn't mean squat to me.....but it does show how weak we are at LW.

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Anybody remember with how Perreault played inhis 1st season in MTL. Noby complain agaist him that time if I remember correctly.

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Where's Dagenais?
Jan Bulis - Saku Koivu - Richard Zednik
Donald Audette - Mike Ribeiro - Michael Ryder
Niklas Sundstrom - Yanic Perreault - Jason Ward
Marcel Hossa - Joe Juneau - Alexander Perezhogin
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Chris Higgins - Benoit Gratton - Andreas Dackell
Chad Kilger - Tomas Plekanec - Joseph Balej
Pierre Dagenais - Jonathan Ferland - Duncan Milroy
Gordie Dwyer - Christian Larivee - Marc-Andre Thinel
Sylvain Blouin
Jerome Marois

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Jan Bulis - Saku Koivu - Richard Zednik
Donald Audette - Mike Ribeiro - Michael Ryder
Niklas Sundstrom - Yanic Perreault - Jason Ward
Marcel Hossa - Joe Juneau - Alexander Perezhogin
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Chris Higgins - Benoit Gratton - Andreas Dackell
Chad Kilger - Tomas Plekanec - Joseph Balej
Pierre Dagenais - Jonathan Ferland - Duncan Milroy
Gordie Dwyer - Christian Larivee - Marc-Andre Thinel
Sylvain Blouin
Jerome Marois

THANKS!!!

didn't expect him to be sooooo low....I'm going blind with old age.

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I would like to say that I'm very happy to see Traverse so low. It seems we're not the only ones thinking this guy is not NHL caliber.

About what I was going to say

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