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01-29-2013, 08:50 PM
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Gretzky could probably even find something nice to say about most of us.

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01-29-2013, 09:01 PM
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Great player but sucks ate everything else.
That pretty much what I was going to say. I think Ron White said it best. "Next time you've got a thought. Just let it go." I hope Brett Hull reads this because he's another one that could benefit from less talky talky.

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Gretzky could probably even find something nice to say about most of us.
Not if he spent any time here

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01-29-2013, 09:33 PM
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He's too politically correct for me to take anything he says seriously.

Don Cherry says some stupid stuff but at least he means it.

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01-29-2013, 09:39 PM
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Those were not Greatzky's top 5 at all. It was EJ Hradek's top 5 segment or whatever silly name they give it, which he does quite often. It consisted of 5 random players currently playing born in January. I don't think they were in any real order. He had Petro as first (or last in the segment) because he wanted to talk to Gretzky about the Blues since the theme from the fantasy camp is the '67 Blues.
Are you sure about that? I wasn't paying a whole lot of attention, but it definitely looked to me like Gretzky was analyzing and talking about the players and spots as if it were his own list.

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01-29-2013, 09:40 PM
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Not tackling the "Swede" part, but I challenge you guys to bring up a list of players Zetterberg's age who are legitimately better.

I can think of a handful of high end players whose names would pop up in discussion, but none better than Z.

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01-29-2013, 09:51 PM
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What's confusing though is he just got done saying in the paragraph before it. So Crosby is the best player, but Zetterberg is the best player for his age. I guess that's like the Senior Hart Trophy or something. You get that as an old guy.
It means Zetterberg is the best of his generation. Crosby is a generation or 2 younger.

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01-29-2013, 09:56 PM
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I never heard Gretzky criticize another player. He always has nice words for them and is full of praise. I'm not so sure that it is meant to be accurate.
Does this mean he won't be supplying charts and graphs and an assortment of other visuals in order to prove this obviously definitive theory?

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01-29-2013, 10:06 PM
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It means Zetterberg is the best of his generation. Crosby is a generation or 2 younger.
Do you know how long a generation is?

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01-29-2013, 11:52 PM
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It's not a big deal it's just an opinion. Like if I were to say that Orr was the greatest player of all time followed by Howe and then Gretzky that would be my opinion, a correct opinion, but an opinion none the less

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01-29-2013, 11:57 PM
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I almost think Gretzky is joking when he says things like that. Like as soon as the reporter leaves the room, Wayne is gonna burst out laughing. The guy's just got a very subtle sense of humor, that's all it is.

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01-29-2013, 11:57 PM
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Gretzky doesn't even think he himself is greatest player of all time. He still to this day maintains its Howe.

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01-30-2013, 02:40 AM
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hes not even close.

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01-30-2013, 02:56 AM
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Gretzky might even say that jags6868 is the best poster here or something like that. Everybody is the best player when asked from mr. Gretzky

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01-30-2013, 03:09 AM
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And now we know why Phoenix was so bad with him there

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01-30-2013, 03:13 AM
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It means Zetterberg is the best of his generation. Crosby is a generation or 2 younger.
His grandchildren will be 2 generations younger.

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01-30-2013, 03:38 AM
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Let me preface this by saying I don't believe Gretzky to be the best player ever (Orr) or the most talented player ever (Lemieux). I'm not a fanboy of his.

I think it's important to look at what his qualifiers are: Swede; Favourite

Realistically, the OP pointed out the two possible question marks in Forsberg and Lidstrom, Gretzky stated Salming, and I think people could make a case for Sundin.

But then you think out of all those guys who played a lot like Gretzky himself? Or I guess out of the Swedish players, who played more like Gretzky than anyone else? I think it's fair to look at that considering, naturally, people respond to the players that a) played like them or b) played hockey the way they enjoyed it to be played.

So realistically, who out of those guys, or others, would you expect Gretzky to say? I think it's relatively obvious that Zetterberg plays the most like he did, on a team that achieved like he did (in some respects in this day and age), so I don't really think it's crazy for him to think the way he does. Just my opinion.

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01-30-2013, 03:40 AM
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Also said Zetterberg was the best Swedish player ever. Better than Lidstrom, Forsberg, ect.
Yes, quite a surprise to all. I mentioned This Gretzky opinion in an old but sometimes reappering thread about Most talented Swede ever to play hockey? . It might be of interest for those who reacted on the best Swedish player thing.

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01-30-2013, 03:49 AM
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He also said Ales Hemsky was the best passer in the NHL with the best vision in the NHL

http://video.oilers.nhl.com/videocen...nsole?id=33833
I think a better chirp would be saying that Enver Lisin was the "faster player to ever lace up skates".

Hemmer is a lot like Kovalev and the like (IMO). He should've/could've been dominant.

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01-30-2013, 04:00 AM
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Man some of you guys are critical over nothing.

The guy is basically a politician. He's Wayne Gretzky. He can't say anything bad about anyone, and he has to praise a bunch of players from all over the world.

Some of you slamming him for being a great player but nothing else....yeah you wish you had a millionth of what he has. Of anything.

I'm on this train... Calling him stupid... ? Rly ?

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01-30-2013, 04:20 AM
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Calling gretzky stupid and marginal at judging talent. One poor olympic showing really clouds judgement around here, I suppose.

Gretzky is brilliant, one of the most articulate players/ex-players in all of professional sports. I don't have a problem with him thinking Zets is the best player in the game for generation, in fact, I agree with him. He does everything, all of the time. Great, great player.

These opinions are all subjective, but I have no problem with what he said here. It wasn't near as bad as Scotty Bowman's best of all-time list. When your put on the spot you you might say things you some what agree with, but haven't had proper time to think it through.

Wayne Gretzky has forgotten more about hockey and recognizing talent than any of us ever knew.

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01-30-2013, 04:27 AM
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Wayne Gretzky did what no one else could do. He owned NHL records with ease, hes a champion, he's a winner.

Until I see an NHL player come close, Gretz is owner.

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01-30-2013, 04:49 AM
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Z is a great player, and it's understandable people like him but Gretzky exaggerate here. I think Gretzky like to throw praise around, he have received so much love and admiration during his years that he want to give something back.

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01-30-2013, 05:15 AM
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Gretzky has stated many, many players to be better than him or to be "best" at something that i can't really take his word too seriously. He probably knows that he himself is widely considered as the best ever and probably even thinks so himself.

But there is no way he could say those things out loud so he just says something.

I remember him making a claim that Selanne/Kariya duo would have broken his records if they played in the 80's.

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01-30-2013, 06:00 AM
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about 5 years ago, gretzky said peter forsberg was 1 of the 5 best players in history. http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...d.php?t=441896

thus zetterberg is now at least top 10 all time.

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