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02-08-2013, 04:38 PM
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Crazy thought here. Apparently Maloney and Tippet's deals expire after this season, and there's a pretty good chance the team could end up in Quebec next year. In which case, you know who could end up as GM/Coach.

What if Sherman and PL have already talked with Roy about an O'Reilly for Yandle swap, and that's what Sherman is waiting for? He's holding out for Yandle, and tanking the season, because Maloney is asking for too much, and there's no one else out there for Sherm to get.

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If Maloney and Tippet aren't retained and the team moves we should be all over hiring those guys. But we won't.

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Crazy thought here. Apparently Maloney and Tippet's deals expire after this season, and there's a pretty good chance the team could end up in Quebec next year. In which case, you know who could end up as GM/Coach.

What if Sherman and PL have already talked with Roy about an O'Reilly for Yandle swap, and that's what Sherman is waiting for? He's holding out for Yandle, and tanking the season, because Maloney is asking for too much, and there's no one else out there for Sherm to get.

I think there is a better chance GoDaddy calls me up and asks me to be in their next commercial with Bar Rafaeli.

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I think there is a better chance GoDaddy calls me up and asks me to be in their next commercial with Bar Rafaeli.
So hot. We should send her to Ryans house with 3.8 million dollars and a pen and piece of paper.

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02-08-2013, 04:49 PM
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I think there is a better chance GoDaddy calls me up and asks me to be in their next commercial with Bar Rafaeli.
That wasn't you in the recent one with her?

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02-08-2013, 04:51 PM
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The Ryan O’Reilly situation is devolving into embarrassment

Ryan O'Reilly is one of the 10 best centers on the planet?

Reading that article makes me sad.

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I think there is a better chance GoDaddy calls me up and asks me to be in their next commercial with Bar Rafaeli.
..............soooo you're saying there's a chance?

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The Ryan O’Reilly situation is devolving into embarrassment

Ryan O'Reilly is one of the 10 best centers on the planet?

Reading that article makes me sad.
You and the rest of the sour grapes crowd can grouse all you want, but O'Reilly really IS that good.

http://www.hockeyprospectus.com/arti...articleid=1423

Those of you still clinging onto the point totals argument are just being silly. His importance to this team cannot be understated.

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02-08-2013, 04:59 PM
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The Ryan O’Reilly situation is devolving into embarrassment

Ryan O'Reilly is one of the 10 best centers on the planet?

Reading that article makes me sad.


What a ridiculous picture.

This guy's a tool. He thinks all the Avalanche fans that follow the team and know O'Reilly are wrong to think he's not worth $5M, and he's right. Then he goes on to make the same classic mistake of comparing Jones and PAP's deal to O'Reilly. Then says Duchene was never better than O'Reilly is now, ignoring the 67 point season he had while O'Reilly was piling up 26 for the second straight season. Oh at least not at both ends of the ice he says. I must be following a different league instead of the one where defense pays more than offense, and Duchene hasn't been filling in nicely in a more defensive role.

How do people lacking analytical skills get jobs writing and analyzing hockey? I don't get it. Their job is to inform the uninformed, and they are giving bad information.


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Crazy thought here. Apparently Maloney and Tippet's deals expire after this season, and there's a pretty good chance the team could end up in Quebec next year. In which case, you know who could end up as GM/Coach.

What if Sherman and PL have already talked with Roy about an O'Reilly for Yandle swap, and that's what Sherman is waiting for? He's holding out for Yandle, and tanking the season, because Maloney is asking for too much, and there's no one else out there for Sherm to get.
There is a chance that they are waiting on O'Reilly to be given a clean bill of health before trading him. Phoenix was trying to acquire a young forward at the beginning of the season as well, and that is rumored to be exactly what they want for Yandle.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for Yandle, even if it costs us Sgarbossa along with O'Reilly. Yandle and EJ would be fun to watch as a pairing on the Avs and team USA for a very long time.

Both are less than 2 years apart in age as well. Yandle will be 27 in September and EJ 25 in March. I also think Yandle needs a change, he can't be happy about being subbplanted by OEL. He obviously has not fallen that far off but all the trade rumors and being replaced on the top pair can't exactly be a motivational factor. I also think behind OEL, Yandle was phenominal in last years playoff run for Phoenix. 9 points and a +5 in 16 games...

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You and the rest of the sour grapes crowd can grouse all you want, but O'Reilly really IS that good.

http://www.hockeyprospectus.com/arti...articleid=1423

Those of you still clinging onto the point totals argument are just being silly. His importance to this team cannot be understated.
You do realize he has an O'Reilly avatar headlined with pay him?

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The Ryan O’Reilly situation is devolving into embarrassment

Ryan O'Reilly is one of the 10 best centers on the planet?

Reading that article makes me sad.
It makes me sad, too, but mostly because 'puck daddy' gets paid to write **** like that.

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You and the rest of the sour grapes crowd can grouse all you want, but O'Reilly really IS that good.

http://www.hockeyprospectus.com/arti...articleid=1423

Those of you still clinging onto the point totals argument are just being silly. His importance to this team cannot be understated.
"Sour grapes crowd"? Look at my previous posts in this thread and every other thread where O'Reilly is mentioned. I'm far from that. I ***** and complain about management every day because they won't pay O'Reilly. I'm not a part of the group that thinks he should be traded ASAP because he's arrogant or selfish.

However, he is NOT a top 10 center. He's one of my favourite players but that's ridiculous.

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You do realize he has an O'Reilly avatar headlined with pay him?
Exactly!

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The Ryan O’Reilly situation is devolving into embarrassment

Ryan O'Reilly is one of the 10 best centers on the planet?

Reading that article makes me sad.
IMO, just pay the man. $4 - 4.5M per is probably good enough to get a deal done, and quite frankly, squabbling over $600K - $1M per with the cap space this franchise has is in a word, stupid.

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IMO, just pay the man. $4 - 4.5M per is probably good enough to get a deal done, and quite frankly, squabbling over $600K - $1M per with the cap space this franchise has is in a word, stupid.
I doubt it. At least if it's long-term.
Any short term deal of over 3.5 would be almost as harmful for the organization in the long-run.

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I like O'Reilly more than most, but anyone thinking he is among the top 10 centers in the world is deranged.

He's not among the top ten Canadian centers. He might be eventually if he, you know, decides he wants to play in the NHL.

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IMO, just pay the man. $4 - 4.5M per is probably good enough to get a deal done, and quite frankly, squabbling over $600K - $1M per with the cap space this franchise has is in a word, stupid.
Agreed. I think $5M is too much and they shouldn't pay him that but if he accepts $4-4.5M, just do it.

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Agreed. I think $5M is too much and they shouldn't pay him that but if he accepts $4-4.5M, just do it.
I agree completely.

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If Maloney and Tippet aren't retained and the team moves we should be all over hiring those guys. But we won't.
AMEN!!! I'd pitch in to a "Help Overpay Tippet" Fund if he'd come to Colorado.
Start the HOT fund now!

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You could even make arguments for J. Staal, zajac, Briere, Duchene etc

I still want O'Reilly to be signed ASAP but he's not Malkin.

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I doubt it. At least if it's long-term.
Any short term deal of over 3.5 would be almost as harmful for the organization in the long-run.
No it wouldn't be. This isn't a max contract we're talking about. If Sherman's half the bean counter he wants everyone to think he is, he'll find a way not to get into huge cap trouble.

The teams you see in big cap trouble are the ones who keep throwing money around every year like drunken frat boys at the strip club. The Avs have never, ever done this, so I don't see them getting into huge cap trouble because they chose to pay Ryan O'Reilly $1-1.5 million more than they'd like to.

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IMO, just pay the man. $4 - 4.5M per is probably good enough to get a deal done, and quite frankly, squabbling over $600K - $1M per with the cap space this franchise has is in a word, stupid.
So you want to give future RFA's precedent to use as leverage to raise all 2nd contracts? No thanks from me. His 2 year offer is generous already for only one breakout year.

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I wonder if the Stastny contract has spooked Avs so they're deathly afraid of any long contract possibly being a problem in the future.

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The Ryan O’Reilly situation is devolving into embarrassment

Ryan O'Reilly is one of the 10 best centers on the planet?

Reading that article makes me sad.
Soon they'll combine the hype and say he's one of the top 10 Centers of the last 25 years.

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