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01-31-2013, 12:08 AM
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Avs-canes

To Colorado
Jordan Staal

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Matt Duchene

Value Wise, what do you think about this trade?

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01-31-2013, 12:09 AM
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To Colorado
Jordan Staal

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Matt Duchene

Value Wise, what do you think about this trade?
Duchene needs to establish himself again. Right now I'd take Staal over Duchene, personally.

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01-31-2013, 12:10 AM
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No from Colorado. No interest whatsoever.

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01-31-2013, 12:17 AM
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Don't see a reason either side does this.

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Don't see a reason either side does this.
is the value there though?

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Colorado has to add. J. Staal > Duchene

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01-31-2013, 12:21 AM
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Colorado has to add. J. Staal > Duchene
And we would certainly not be adding so we can forget about this. Seems a pointless thread. Don't have a clue why OP made this.

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01-31-2013, 12:25 AM
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lol is this a joke?

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And we would certainly not be adding so we can forget about this. Seems a pointless thread. Don't have a clue why OP made this.
its a proposal thread?

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01-31-2013, 12:26 AM
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is the value there though?
not even anywhere near.

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01-31-2013, 12:26 AM
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As a Canes fan, I have no idea why we would trade Staal for Duchene. Staal is so much better all around.

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01-31-2013, 12:36 AM
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its a proposal thread?
So you decided to make a proposal neither team would do and that makes zero sense? Good work.



The point is to make proposals that actually make sense and help both teams. Not just make random proposals for the fun of it.

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Pointless. Both teams say no.

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As a Canes fan, I have no idea why we would trade Staal for Duchene. Staal is so much better all around.
First post on this?

And hell no to the Avs. Duchene will be better, too bad it'll be years before it means anything

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So you decided to make a proposal neither team would do and that makes zero sense? Good work.



The point is to make proposals that actually make sense and help both teams. Not just make random proposals for the fun of it.
havent seen many that fill that need to be honest.

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01-31-2013, 12:55 AM
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havent seen many that fill that need to be honest.
Most have a bit of thought in them, and the people creating them usually don't know beforehand the trade is completely pointless. You knew this makes no sense, but still went ahead and posted it.

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No way I would do this. Plus it'd be a major dick move by JR to send Jordan packing before his 10 yr contract kicks in. It's pretty clear that the brothers (at least Jordan and Eric) want to play together, and I can't imagine how mad Eric would be about this.

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Doesn't do anything but make each team worse.

Every team needs a duchene type player and a staal type player.

Colorado has Ryan O'Reilly. (hopefully) Canes have Jeff Skinner.

Duchene on the canes would add too much risk to their forwards while taking away a great 2 way player while doing the opposite for the Avs.

Plus Duchene simply isn't going anywhere. The kid has proved he can be an absolute star. He's a fan favorite and the best player on the avs. No way they trade him. Especially when his value is higher to Colorado than any other team in a trade.

The same can likely be said for Staal.

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01-31-2013, 06:59 AM
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There's no reason for either team to do this. Carolina don't trade someone they just signed for ten years and Colorado don't trade their best forward who just signed a short, cheap, prove yourself deal.

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01-31-2013, 07:01 AM
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Hell no, Duchy is one of the only players on our team right now.

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01-31-2013, 08:17 AM
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Value wise the Avs would add. Pick or D prospect (basing this on what Carolina surrendered to obtain Staal from the Penguins).

Beyond that the trade would garner zero interest from either team.

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01-31-2013, 08:39 AM
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Doesn't do anything but make each team worse.

Every team needs a duchene type player and a staal type player.

Colorado has Ryan O'Reilly. (hopefully) Canes have Jeff Skinner.

Duchene on the canes would add too much risk to their forwards while taking away a great 2 way player while doing the opposite for the Avs.

Plus Duchene simply isn't going anywhere. The kid has proved he can be an absolute star. He's a fan favorite and the best player on the avs. No way they trade him. Especially when his value is higher to Colorado than any other team in a trade.

The same can likely be said for Staal.
I would argue that Landeskog is their best player.

As to the OP, it makes less than zero sense for Carolina to trade Jordan after they JUST acquired him to play with his brother. Rutherford would be blacklisting himself among any high profile free agent for years to come if he made this trade.

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01-31-2013, 09:31 AM
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I would argue that Landeskog is their best player.

As to the OP, it makes less than zero sense for Carolina to trade Jordan after they JUST acquired him to play with his brother. Rutherford would be blacklisting himself among any high profile free agent for years to come if he made this trade.
Landeskog might turn into their best player, but Duchene is currently the guy. This year, Duchene has looked like a different player. He's stronger on his skates, more responsible defensively, and has had some flashes of brilliance on offense.

Landeskog is good, but he will never have the pure skills of Duchene.

However, if Landeskog ends up as an Iginla type player, and Duchene ends up more like Sakic/Yzerman/etc, it's going to be tough to determine who is better down the line.

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I would argue that Landeskog is their best player.

As to the OP, it makes less than zero sense for Carolina to trade Jordan after they JUST acquired him to play with his brother. Rutherford would be blacklisting himself among any high profile free agent for years to come if he made this trade.
Everyone has a right to argue, but Matt Duchene is Colorado's best player. After him it's a huge tie between EJ, Lando, Staz and Parenteau who is suprising me with some good play. O'Reilly is right in there with those guys if he comes back.

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