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03-03-2013, 01:54 PM
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Could an intelligent HF poster become an NHL head coach?

I often come across GDT posts that contain criticism of coaching decisions, and there seem to be those posters who seem to know how to coach a hockey team.

So, if they are given the chance to work their way up in the hockey coaching world, are there posters who would, in a few years' time, become a head coach of a NHL team?

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No, not unless he (or she) had any previous coaching history.

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It's true, there's few to no new head coaches in the past 5 years without extensive experience and training

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Based upon the merits of his/her HF posts? Absolutely not.

Is it possible that someone who is qualified to be a coach could post on HF? Yes, I don't see why not. However generally those who are coaching at any kind of a significant level don't spend their down time debating random people about the finer points of coaching strategy.

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As long as its the Hawks they are coaching. I hate em but they are so good a monkey could coach them.

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Unlike how I said yes in the GM topic, I'm going to say "Absolutely not," to this one.

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Intelligent HF poster?
Like that guy who predicted where Dennis Wideman was going to sign. He got a job in an NHL front office for being so right.

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Working one's way up in coaching means that one would begin by coaching kids' hockey...

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Yes, just like every movie critic would make an Oscar-winning director.

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I often come across GDT posts that contain criticism of coaching decisions, and there seem to be those posters who seem to know how to coach a hockey team.

So, if they are given the chance to work their way up in the hockey coaching world, are there posters who would, in a few years' time, become a head coach of a NHL team?
Coaches move up the ranks through their hockey achievements, not through posting on internet message boards.

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In which we talk about the differences between hobby vs profession.

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Yes, just like every movie critic would make an Oscar-winning director.
This sums it all.

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Intelligent HF poster?

Does not compute.

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I know I would be a horrible coach but perhaps some people here would be better off coaching a real hockey team (if only some low-level kid's team) than posting here...

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I often come across GDT posts that contain criticism of coaching decisions, and there seem to be those posters who seem to know how to coach a hockey team.

So, if they are given the chance to work their way up in the hockey coaching world, are there posters who would, in a few years' time, become a head coach of a NHL team?
HF posters are human you know this?

EDIT: yes I think a person with the experience and knowledge required to coach could do it, even if they posted on HF.

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Yes, providing that coach (and only under that scenario) has coaching experience that isn't in minor hockey.

I'm talking they've coached junior hockey or better.

No, a regular HF poster who never played hockey or never coached anything other than minor hockey house league could be a good NHL coach.

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At this point, I think they would do a better job than Babcock.

Guess who has been playing winger for Pavel Datsyuk the past few bunch of games.

Justin Abdelkader. And he's been on a tear too. 1 point in 36 games going back to last year. Meanwhile, Daniel 'All-star Sniper' Cleary is the other winger. And Tomas Tatar, the kid who had a couple goals on the NHL network's highlight reels already in less games than both players, is playing 8 minutes a night on the third line.

Apparently someone asked Babcock if he ever considered pairing Tatar with Datsyuk today. "No."

Okay Mike.

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Did you find one? Who is it?

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There is probably a HF poster who is a NHL coach. But intelligence is not all, you need to be a leader and all what comes with it. If you got that you need to take a course in coaching and then you need to grind your way there, you simply can't become a coach without experience.

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I have coached atom, pee wee and midget (they all did quite well). However, I also coached a men's senior team to a terrible record for two straight years, so I doubt it would be me.

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There is probably a HF poster who is a NHL coach. But intelligence is not all, you need to be a leader and all what comes with it. If you got that you need to take a course in coaching and then you need to grind your way there, you simply can't become a coach without experience.
Not all coaches are leaders. Look at Alain Vigneault for example. He has even admitted he doesnt vocally pump his team or anything like that. Sounds like he just lets them play within his system.

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Not all coaches are leaders. Look at Alain Vigneault for example. He has even admitted he doesnt vocally pump his team or anything like that. Sounds like he just lets them play within his system.
Being a leader doesn't mean being all gung-ho cheerleader.

Giving the team a system to play within, instructing the players what to do, etc. *is* being a leader.

It's one thing to haven idea of a good system, it's another to be able to implement it successfully among some of the most determined individuals on the planet. Anyone who has ever coached at an elite level has been at least a good chunk of leadership.

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I don't think a poster could make for a coach, but I do think there are many posters on this site would be better than a lot of current GM's.

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Being a leader doesn't mean being all gung-ho cheerleader.

Giving the team a system to play within, instructing the players what to do, etc. *is* being a leader.

It's one thing to haven idea of a good system, it's another to be able to implement it successfully among some of the most determined individuals on the planet. Anyone who has ever coached at an elite level has been at least a good chunk of leadership.
I agree but what you mentioned in the bolded is called coaching. EVERY coach has a system.

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If this is your way to set up "you can't criticize because you're not a coach" then let me inform you that is an appeal to authority.

If the penalty kill is struggling because there's absolutely no pressure on the pointmen, just guys collapsing on the net, whether or not the person who makes that observation is an NHL coach does not refute the observation. If the team struggles with odd man rushes because stretch passes are part of the system, you don't have to be an NHL coach to notice it and comment.

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