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03-12-2005, 10:13 AM
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1-Roy and heres why. He stood alone against a faster bigger set of forwards. He did not have the big three standing guard before him or Doug Harvey. Roy stopped the puck for the habs with at best an average set of defencemen before him.
His stlye of goaltending is virtualy been adopted by every good goaler since.
Only Plante had the same effect on goaltending but plante had better defencmen throughout his carrer. Only Tretiack has been as good in my opinion. Tretiack had the best set of reflexes of all and his extreme conditioning give him the edge.
I am very hard pressed to say Roy or Tretiack was best. If both had played against each other in a 7 game playoff while in their prime, this would have been the something to see.

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03-12-2005, 11:21 AM
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Of course, the definition of "best" is hard to pin down, since Jacques Plante in his prime probably couldn't play in the ECHL these days, but who knows. (That is a hyperbolic prelude only!). So basically, here's my "best" list of guys who I lived and died with:

1. Hackett
2. Thibault
3. Wamsley
4. Dryden
5. Theodore
6. Roy (Hon. Mention for his sheer success, but on personality alone he wouldn't make my list)
7. Garon
8. Penney
9. Larocque
10. Hayward
(Hon. Mention: Soetart, Sevigny)
Man, where are Tugnutt and Moog?
These are 2 fellas I really appreciated.

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03-12-2005, 01:55 PM
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Are we including best goalies that played at one time (including out of their prime) for Habs?

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03-12-2005, 02:11 PM
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I place Dryden fifth because he had a packed team playing in front of him and he retired early. Gerry McNeil was a good goaltender but nothing more. He isn't even in the Hall of Fame.
Dryden played in front of a great team but look how hard that team fell when Dryden retired?

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03-12-2005, 03:13 PM
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1.Plante
2.Roy
3.Dryden
4.Durnam
5.Worsley
6.Theodore
7.Vezina
8.Vachon
9.Hainsworth
10.McNeil

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03-12-2005, 04:29 PM
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Of course, the definition of "best" is hard to pin down, since Jacques Plante in his prime probably couldn't play in the ECHL these days, but who knows. (That is a hyperbolic prelude only!). So basically, here's my "best" list of guys who I lived and died with:

1. Hackett
2. Thibault
3. Wamsley
4. Dryden
5. Theodore
6. Roy (Hon. Mention for his sheer success, but on personality alone he wouldn't make my list)
7. Garon
8. Penney
9. Larocque
10. Hayward
(Hon. Mention: Soetart, Sevigny)
LOL... hacket and thibault as top 2... what can I say... you're a funny guy!!! :lol

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03-13-2005, 08:46 PM
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are we talking rick wamsley?

I never knew he even played in montreal.... My first memories of hockey remind me of wamsley as a flame

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03-14-2005, 07:56 AM
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are we talking rick wamsley?

I never knew he even played in montreal.... My first memories of hockey remind me of wamsley as a flame
A guy I worked with went to the same parenting or child birth [forget what they were called] with the Wamsley's. I can cram a lot of meaningless stuff into a day can't I ? Hackett, what in tarnation does 'crunk' mean ? I've asked a few teenagers and they just tilt their heads a bit and give me that look that I give my father.

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03-14-2005, 09:21 AM
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Richard Sevigny ? Must be a relative or neighbour. Rchard Sevigny ? Not in my top 30.

Top 3 of Roy,Dryden and Plante. You can argue Plante and Dryden's percentage of cups against active season's or argue Roy winning with what some consider average teams. I don't really buy that as those teams deserve more credit nor do I buy the arguement that the other 2 were propped up by great teams. Pick 'em out of a hat, no answer is conclusive. I prefer Dryden, but that's more the guy than the goalie.

Hainsworth,Vezina,McNeil and Durnan would have to be there though only Gros Bill actually saw these guys.

8,9, and 10. Worsley. Hmmn, 2 spots for Theo,Hodge,Vachon, Hackett,Thibault,Larocque,Hayward,Wamsley, Penney.

OK, I'd go with Worsley,Theo, and Hodge.

I always liked Larocque. Even then, we had the syndrome of the 'give the backup a chance. It's Dryden's fault we lost 8 games last year. I just don't think he ever had to carry the team. H emay have been good but we'll never know.
Not only did I see Ken Dryden play, I even remember it. What about you, McPhee, don't you remember '71 ?

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03-14-2005, 09:28 AM
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Not only did I see Ken Dryden play, I even remember it. What about you, McPhee, don't you remember '71 ?
Dryden was every bit the story in 71 that Roy was in 86. I didn't mean that Dryden never carried the team, I meant that Larocque never had that chance so we''ll never know how good he was. I meant that even in the best days of the 70's teams, if the team lost, rare as it was, there were fans who would blame Dryden and want Bunny in the nets. Even at their peak, in 76-79, the team would often start slowly and Dryden would invariably keep them in the game until talent took over.

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Dryden was every bit the story in 71 that Roy was in 86. I didn't mean that Dryden never carried the team, I meant that Larocque never had that chance so we''ll never know how good he was. I meant that even in the best days of the 70's teams, if the team lost, rare as it was, there were fans who would blame Dryden and want Bunny in the nets. Even at their peak, in 76-79, the team would often start slowly and Dryden would invariably keep them in the game until talent took over.
I stand corrected, though it was never my intention to impugn your hockey knowledge or your reputation.

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03-14-2005, 09:54 AM
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I stand corrected, though it was never my intention to impugn your hockey knowledge or your reputation.
I impugn my reputation every time I open my mouth.

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Hackett, what in tarnation does 'crunk' mean ? I've asked a few teenagers and they just tilt their heads a bit and give me that look that I give my father.
Past tense of crank?

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Man, where are Tugnutt and Moog?
These are 2 fellas I really appreciated.
Could Tugnutt really be said to have played for us? I dunno. I appreciated him in Ottawa especially, but I don't think he played enough for us to qualify. Maybe some of the others on my list didn't either, I dunno. I never even think of Moog either. I think he was just so massively overshadowed by Thibault that he might as well not have been there.

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Past tense of crank?
Maybe. Every day I wake up and find there's more I don't know.

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Top ten....

1. Plante
2. Roy
3. Dryden
4. Durnan
5. Hainsworth
6. Worsley
7. Theodore
8. Vezina
9. Hodge
10. McNeil



please let us never refer to Richard Sevigny when discussing the habs best ANYTHING again....unless it a list of best porno mustaches.

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Roy
Plante
Durnan
Dryden
Hainsworth
Vezina
Worsley
Theodore
Mcneil
Hodge

Laroque, Vachon, Wamsley, Sevigny, Hayward were all good guys, but as goalies for the Habs they don't measure up to the 10 listed. Laroque is appearing on way too many lists. He quite simply was the weak link on the Habs of the late 70's. He built up his record against the likes of the Rockies, Barons, Seals, Caps and Scouts.

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A guy I worked with went to the same parenting or child birth [forget what they were called] with the Wamsley's. I can cram a lot of meaningless stuff into a day can't I ? Hackett, what in tarnation does 'crunk' mean ? I've asked a few teenagers and they just tilt their heads a bit and give me that look that I give my father.
McPhee, what the crunk does "tarnation" mean?

Edit: Anyhow, I didn't know either... But here ya go:
http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~wrader/slang/recent.html .


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If I rank goalies according to their influence and impact on Cup-winning teams, Roy, then Plante, then Dryden, would be quite a margin above the others.

I don't know much about the goalies who preceded Plante, and none of those between Dryden and Roy, and since Roy, are worth ranking on that scale. I like Theo, and I think that the team can win a Cup with him, but his personal trophies don't way much compared to a Stanley Cup.

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McPhee, what the crunk does "tarnation" mean?

Edit: Anyhow, I didn't know either... But here ya go:
http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~wrader/slang/recent.html .
Thanks. These boards are crunk at playoff time. I'll mix it into conversation at supper tonight, see how it goes. No idea where tarnation comes from or what it means. I suspect I got it from Yosemite Sam in an old cartoon. Says a lot for my cultural standing.

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Thanks. These boards are crunk at playoff time. I'll mix it into conversation at supper tonight, see how it goes. No idea where tarnation comes from or what it means. I suspect I got it from Yosemite Sam in an old cartoon. Says a lot for my cultural standing.
I think it's really far out and groovy that you're finally picking up the new lingo all us cool kids and hep cats are using. I really dig it.

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I think it's really far out and groovy that you're finally picking up the new lingo all us cool kids and hep cats are using. I really dig it.
Thank YOU Bill, you are the cat's meow. I think I'll spend the afternoon kicking the gong around.

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Thank YOU Bill, you are the cat's meow. I think I'll spend the afternoon kicking the gong around.
Neat-o, Daddy-o.

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If I rank goalies according to their influence and impact on Cup-winning teams, Roy, then Plante, then Dryden, would be quite a margin above the others.

I don't know much about the goalies who preceded Plante, and none of those between Dryden and Roy, and since Roy, are worth ranking on that scale. I like Theo, and I think that the team can win a Cup with him, but his personal trophies don't way much compared to a Stanley Cup.
Bill Durnan doesn't get enough praise as one of the Habs best. He won 6 Vezinas in 7 years in the 40's.


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Bill Durnan doesn't get enough praise as one of the Habs best. He won 6 Vezinas in 7 years in the 40's.
Well thats because were talking the 40's. That a very long time ago, and way before many of us here were even born. I honestly have never even heard of him.

I mean im sure Gros Bill, Darz, and Mcphee remember watching them in their teens, but as for the rest of us, well......

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