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02-03-2013, 06:29 PM
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"The Shannon Leak" claimed Luongo was well on his way to Toronto once the lockout ended. What happened?
Well... the Leafs general manager was fired, for beginners.

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Well... the Leafs general manager was fired, for beginners.
Why is Shannon so reliable though? Because he told you what you preferred to hear?

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"The Shannon Leak" claimed Luongo was well on his way to Toronto once the lockout ended. What happened?
A change in management.


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02-03-2013, 06:38 PM
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Why is Shannon so reliable though? Because he told you what you preferred to hear?

Shannon not being reliable doesn't mean Mckenzie now is. Both are TOR based. Both are guessing. They have no insider info on the Canucks.


McKenzie started out wrong, has continually played catch up, and is likely to end wrong if the Canucks don't take on a soft deal with marginal value. He's set himself up perfectly to be ridiculed. Like I said, TOR fans are perfectly well within their rights to follow his misinformed opinion. The same with Shannon.

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02-03-2013, 06:55 PM
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Shannon not being reliable doesn't mean Mckenzie now is. Both are TOR based. Both are guessing. They have no insider info on the Canucks.


McKenzie started out wrong, has continually played catch up, and is likely to end wrong if the Canucks don't take on a soft deal with marginal value. He's set himself up perfectly to be ridiculed. Like I said, TOR fans are perfectly well within their rights to follow his misinformed opinion. The same with Shannon.
In June Bob said not many teams are interested in Luongo. What's wrong with that? There's still no deal!

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02-03-2013, 07:26 PM
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In June Bob said not many teams are interested in Luongo. What's wrong with that? There's still no deal!
Bob has never been in on Canucks rumors, not really sure what you are trying to prove here? If it is what I am thinking it is pretty obvious, good to see there is a long leash with it too.

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02-03-2013, 07:34 PM
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In June Bob said not many teams are interested in Luongo. What's wrong with that? There's still no deal!

So no deal means not team are not interested? Could teams being interested in the player but not be willing to meet a hefty price? Is that an option? Not to McKenzie it seems. This is the problem with McKenzie editorializing on something he doesn't know. He doesn't just say he doesn't know, he infers things based on the little non-VAN information he does have, which is still guessing.


- They are going to have to take a soft deal (He would have been gone by now if that was the case)

- FLA and TOR not interested (Explicitly proven wrong later, by his own admission)

- No market for Luongo (Flat out BS. You think GMs are going to tell him what they're planning to do or their exact conversations with Gillis? PHI also proved this wrong)


He just needs to stop. He's making himself look suspect to many VAN fans. Everyone knows he doesn't have an inside scoop to VAN's goings on. He gets nothing from this side. Yet, I understand his difficult position. He must talk about Luongo, especially when TOR is/was a possibility. But he can't help himself from speculating further than he should, which makes him look suspect.

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02-03-2013, 07:41 PM
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So no deal means not team are not interested? Could teams being interested in the player but not be willing to meet a hefty price? Is that an option? Not to McKenzie it seems. This is the problem with McKenzie editorializing on something he doesn't know. He doesn't just say he doesn't know, he infers things based on the little non-VAN information he does have, which is still guessing.


- They are going to have to take a soft deal (He would have been gone by now if that was the case)

- FLA and TOR not interested (Explicitly proven wrong later, by his own admission)

- No market for Luongo (Flat out BS. You think GMs are going to tell him what they're planning to do or their exact conversations with Gillis? PHI also proved this wrong)


He just needs to stop. He's making himself look suspect to many VAN fans. Everyone knows he doesn't have an inside scoop to VAN's goings on. He gets nothing from this side. Yet, I understand his difficult position. He must talk about Luongo, especially when TOR is/was a possibility. But he can't help himself from speculating further than he should, which makes him look suspect.
You're using his words from June on what was happening against him now. Things change. You're being unfair to him.

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02-03-2013, 07:44 PM
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You're using his words from June on what was happening against him now. Things change. You're being unfair to him.
Um....who's picking on him?

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02-03-2013, 07:48 PM
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Um....who's picking on him?
It's just a strange argument to quote his words from 8 months ago, and say how he's changed his tune. He was commenting about what was happening at that time.

And in the end, we're into February and there's still no deal. Was he that out to lunch?

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It's just a strange argument to quote his words from 8 months ago, and say how he's changed his tune. He was commenting about what was happening at that time.

And in the end, we're into February and there's still no deal. Was he that out to lunch?
Who knows? And does it really matter? If he is dealt he will be dealt. He has a history of knowing absolutely nothing about the canucks, he may be great for toronto rumors, but he is out to lunch on our team. We don't generally use him for solid rumors.

Really, what does this have to do with the trade at the moment when it came up our GM is at a game scouting other then to put some negative spin?

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Luongo for Ovechkin would work for both sides, restart for both of them. This is definitely going to happen in the next few weeks.

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Luongo for Ovechkin would work for both sides, restart for both of them. This is definitely going to happen in the next few weeks.
Nah can't afford OVie's contract, or I should say Cap hit the money doesn't matter.

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It's just a strange argument to quote his words from 8 months ago, and say how he's changed his tune. He was commenting about what was happening at that time.

And in the end, we're into February and there's still no deal. Was he that out to lunch?

Is he still saying there's no market for Lu? I haven't been paying attention to him.


It's not unfair to say that someone that is editorializing is going to far with it. He did.


No market, soft deal, no interest? He doesn't know. I'll ask you this: What changed in the market for him to say the Leafs weren't interested at all in the offseason to them offering up Kadri (to which you confirmed)? Or FLA renewing interest by Tallon stating that talks were ongoing? Further, how does he know that VAN had to take a soft deal then or now? How does he possibly know that?

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Leafs do not have to make playoffs this year. In fact with the top picks in the draft being pretty solid, one could say that it benefits the Leafs not to make a play for Luongo. Also Reimer has looked pretty good this far in the season, taking pressure off of Nonis to make a deal for a goaltender. No matter what you might think, Gillis is the one on the hot seat here. Schnieder has not played well and Gillis has committed large coin to him. Luongo should be the number 1 based on his play so far this year. If the Canucks hope to win this year, they will need Lu to play for them. I expect him to be dealt in the off season, but Vancouver will have to absorb some of the cap hit for the remainder of his contract if they expect value back for him.

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Leafs do not have to make playoffs this year. In fact with the top picks in the draft being pretty solid, one could say that it benefits the Leafs not to make a play for Luongo. Also Reimer has looked pretty good this far in the season, taking pressure off of Nonis to make a deal for a goaltender. No matter what you might think, Gillis is the one on the hot seat here. Schnieder has not played well and Gillis has committed large coin to him. Luongo should be the number 1 based on his play so far this year. If the Canucks hope to win this year, they will need Lu to play for them. I expect him to be dealt in the off season, but Vancouver will have to absorb some of the cap hit for the remainder of his contract if they expect value back for him.
I think we have moved on from him to TO to be honest, it seems the only ones who want to say anything about TO and Lu is toronto fans.

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Leafs do not have to make playoffs this year. In fact with the top picks in the draft being pretty solid, one could say that it benefits the Leafs not to make a play for Luongo. Also Reimer has looked pretty good this far in the season, taking pressure off of Nonis to make a deal for a goaltender. No matter what you might think, Gillis is the one on the hot seat here. Schnieder has not played well and Gillis has committed large coin to him. Luongo should be the number 1 based on his play so far this year. If the Canucks hope to win this year, they will need Lu to play for them. I expect him to be dealt in the off season, but Vancouver will have to absorb some of the cap hit for the remainder of his contract if they expect value back for him.


The Canucks will not have to absorb cap, nor is Gillis on the hot seat. How does the GM with two great goalies, one of which who is playing he usually does to start the year, feel pressure to deal? It makes no sense.


Make no mistake, some teams out there will fail due to goaltending, but it won't be the Canucks who have two of the best.

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Whatever dude. You certainly are a homer!

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Whatever dude. You certainly are a homer!
What a witty and intelligent post, bravo sir.

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Whatever dude. You certainly are a homer!

Enjoy tanking.

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Leafs do not have to make playoffs this year. In fact with the top picks in the draft being pretty solid, one could say that it benefits the Leafs not to make a play for Luongo. Also Reimer has looked pretty good this far in the season, taking pressure off of Nonis to make a deal for a goaltender. No matter what you might think, Gillis is the one on the hot seat here. Schnieder has not played well and Gillis has committed large coin to him. Luongo should be the number 1 based on his play so far this year. If the Canucks hope to win this year, they will need Lu to play for them. I expect him to be dealt in the off season, but Vancouver will have to absorb some of the cap hit for the remainder of his contract if they expect value back for him.
Yeah, the Canucks are going to have to absorb cap for the guy that has the 2nd best GAA and save % in the league this season.

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Who is looking for a goalie then? Ans why isnt every team lining up to get him?

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Who is looking for a goalie then? Ans why isnt every team lining up to get him?
No one knows which teams are and aren't looking for goaltending. We can only guess.

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No one knows which teams are and aren't looking for goaltending. We can only guess.
Think you are wasting your time replying to him.

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Who is looking for a goalie then? Ans why isnt every team lining up to get him?

Isn't it clear by now you don't know what you are talking about?


Gillis on the hot seat: Laughable.


Gillis will have to absorb cap: Hahaha.


If the Canucks hope to win this year, they need Lu: Schneider ain't bad either.


Who is looking for goalie: Call up the GMs.


Why aren't people lining up to get him?: TOR was in line, Lu balked or Gillis didn't like their assets. Don't know who else is in line but we know TOR is out. So no need to comment on them further.


I think you should seriously re-evaluate your stance.

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