I think Brodeur often gets unfairly dismissed because he played on some great teams, but Roy was better in his prime IMO. I think all things considered throughout their careers that Brodeur is the 'greater' goalie though.
Roy. Played in a higher scoring era, didn't have Stevens, Neidermayer, the trap Devils, etc in front of him.
He almost single handedly won a Stanley Cup for the Habs, 86 wasn't his prime so I'm not including that in this thread.
There was a 5year stretch from 88-92 where Roy lead the league in Save % 4 times, and GAA twice.
I'm not trying to take anything away from Marty. But I just think Roy had less around him, and still managed to be the best.
To me it is Roy easily for prime. Roy did have a decent amount of support to work with though in 1986, 1989... even 1993. Chelios, Robinson, Gainey, Carboneau... and a lot of other vets and good players.
To me it is Roy easily for prime. Roy did have a decent amount of support to work with though in 1986, 1989... even 1993. Chelios, Robinson, Gainey, Carboneau... and a lot of other vets and good players.
Yeah good point. Still those Devil defenses in the late 90's and early 00's were nuts. Throw in the trap era, and the style the Dev's played. 2 way forwards like john madden, etc.
Roy. Brodeur is a legend and one of the best 10 goaltenders of all time. But Roy was on another level. A better poll would be Roy/Hasek IMO.
thats what i was gonna do next lol
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Originally Posted by Sens Rule
To me it is Roy easily for prime. Roy did have a decent amount of support to work with though in 1986, 1989... even 1993. Chelios, Robinson, Gainey, Carboneau... and a lot of other vets and good players.
yea. ppl keep neglecting the fact that roy had good defensemen. but yea martys defense was was arguably the best hockey has ever seen. not taking away anything from him. that defense wasnt always around for him. so he still has had a terrific career.
Have to go with Roy. In his prime he had more of an ability to steal games than Brodeur. However, Brodeur was the perfect goalie for the Devils trap at the time.
Refute his methodology. In what way does his avatar make his method or conclusion incorrect?
In my personal opinion, Roy and Hasek are the best two goaltenders to ever man the pipes. It's a coin-flip between the two. It's that close. You cannot simply rely on raw career totals when assessing two players from different eras.
maybe this poll shoulda been who is better? people going for roy because marty had amazing d back in the day. he hasnt always had it. hes also had to bail his team out alot of games. and roy had some good defensmen too.
I think i'd say prime Marty, peak Roy. Seems like a pointless semantic distinction but IMO Brodeur's "prime" was consistently high, while Roy's prime was a little less consistent. When Roy was really in the zone, his "peak" he was a unbeatable.
So at the very top of the game Roy over Brodeur, but for the usual definition of "prime" i.e. "prime years" Brodeur.
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I don't see how some people are saying Brodeur's whole career is his prime as a point in his favour. Roy won a Conn Smythe at 20 and was still among the elite goalies at age 37. From 21-37, they were both elite goaltenders. Roy retired at that age, and Brodeur's been average since then.
Depends if you are considering puck handling as a part of "being a goalie". Even if you don't think Brodeur was better at keeping the puck out of the net, you have to take into account how hard he made it for teams to enter the zone, and get good scoring opportunities, his ability to clear the puck, ect.
