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03-22-2013, 11:02 AM
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I must say that read the first pages in the 2011 Wild's 10th pick overall and then basically checking every 5th page was very funny although time consuming.

I've been unconvinced up until now that he could be considered for the Calder (due to his point production) but I have to say that I really do think that he should be considered top 3 in terms of Calder. I'd even go further and say that IMO he should be considered the guy to beat. I've been a fan of his since way back when he was playing in Sweden and always thought he'd be able to break right into a NHL lineup, but what he has done here has still exceeded my most "over-the-top positive" expectations.

Anyway, I know it will probably not go down that way, but I think he's been the most impressive rookie so far.

PS. Full disclosure, I'm an Edmonton fan so I guess I should be hoping for him to slow down so that our guys can move up... But in the end I can't make myself wish that anything goes bad for this kid.
This is pretty high praise, and I definitely thank you for it.

As Wild fans, we do not often hear nice things, especially from Edmonton fans.

Thank you! And may your team grow and start using that ridiculous amount of talent that they have.

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Been fun to watch Brodin get more involved in the attack the last 5 games or so. He is really putting that skating to good use when he gets a chance.

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Pitbull is 32 and thus past his draft eligibility.

The good news is we can approach him and sign him as a free agent.
The bad news is so can 29 other teams.

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Jonas Brodin: The Calder candidate more people should be talking about


Jonas Brodin: The Calder candidate more people should be talking about

By Adam Gretz | Hockey writer
March 23, 2013 4:35 pm ET


Jonas Brodin is playing a huge role for the Minnesota Wild. (USATSI) Jonas Brodin is playing a huge role for the Minnesota Wild. (USATSI)

Thanks to their 2-0 win over the San Jose Sharks on Saturday afternoon the Minnesota Wild continued their quest to not only end a four-year playoff drought, but perhaps even win the Northwest Division title.

A lot of the credit has gone to their two big free agent signings over the summer, Zach Parise and Ryan Suter. And for good reason. Both have been great additions and are having the type of seasons that were expected when they signed their 13-year contracts back in July.

But even with the additions of the two best free agents on the market the Wild, a team that was among the worst in the NHL last season, still needed more (a lot more) if it wanted to get back to the playoffs for the first time since the 2007-08 season. And that's where a guy like Jonas Brodin comes in, the 19-year-old defenseman that's spent most of the season playing as Suter's partner on Minnesota's top defensive pairing.

...article continued via provided link up top.

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03-24-2013, 10:09 AM
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Jonas Brodin: The Calder candidate more people should be talking about


Jonas Brodin: The Calder candidate more people should be talking about

By Adam Gretz | Hockey writer
March 23, 2013 4:35 pm ET


Jonas Brodin is playing a huge role for the Minnesota Wild. (USATSI) Jonas Brodin is playing a huge role for the Minnesota Wild. (USATSI)

Thanks to their 2-0 win over the San Jose Sharks on Saturday afternoon the Minnesota Wild continued their quest to not only end a four-year playoff drought, but perhaps even win the Northwest Division title.

A lot of the credit has gone to their two big free agent signings over the summer, Zach Parise and Ryan Suter. And for good reason. Both have been great additions and are having the type of seasons that were expected when they signed their 13-year contracts back in July.

But even with the additions of the two best free agents on the market the Wild, a team that was among the worst in the NHL last season, still needed more (a lot more) if it wanted to get back to the playoffs for the first time since the 2007-08 season. And that's where a guy like Jonas Brodin comes in, the 19-year-old defenseman that's spent most of the season playing as Suter's partner on Minnesota's top defensive pairing.

...article continued via provided link up top.
Great find...I just posted this out on the "Brodin for Calder" thread on the main board.

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Great find...I just posted this out on the "Brodin for Calder" thread on the main board.
Hadn't seen that thread. Will have to go check it out.

I don't know that he can catch those other guys on points, but if he continues to really progress offensively (and I think he will) I believe people will really start to take notice of the kid. Every new team we play there are writers and scouts that get the pleasure of seeing his talent. Should only help his case.

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Jonas Brodin: The Calder candidate more people should be talking about


Jonas Brodin: The Calder candidate more people should be talking about

By Adam Gretz | Hockey writer
March 23, 2013 4:35 pm ET


Jonas Brodin is playing a huge role for the Minnesota Wild. (USATSI) Jonas Brodin is playing a huge role for the Minnesota Wild. (USATSI)

Thanks to their 2-0 win over the San Jose Sharks on Saturday afternoon the Minnesota Wild continued their quest to not only end a four-year playoff drought, but perhaps even win the Northwest Division title.

A lot of the credit has gone to their two big free agent signings over the summer, Zach Parise and Ryan Suter. And for good reason. Both have been great additions and are having the type of seasons that were expected when they signed their 13-year contracts back in July.

But even with the additions of the two best free agents on the market the Wild, a team that was among the worst in the NHL last season, still needed more (a lot more) if it wanted to get back to the playoffs for the first time since the 2007-08 season. And that's where a guy like Jonas Brodin comes in, the 19-year-old defenseman that's spent most of the season playing as Suter's partner on Minnesota's top defensive pairing.

...article continued via provided link up top.

It's kind of funny he wrote that, although it's nice to see someone who actually doesn't have blinders on. He wrote this earlier this year saying MN won't even make the playoffs and 8-10 teams are better than them.
http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/blog/ey...ns-award-picks

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has it ever happened where a d pairing won the norris and calder?

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Jonas Brodin: The Calder candidate more people should be talking about


Jonas Brodin: The Calder candidate more people should be talking about

By Adam Gretz | Hockey writer
March 23, 2013 4:35 pm ET


Jonas Brodin is playing a huge role for the Minnesota Wild. (USATSI) Jonas Brodin is playing a huge role for the Minnesota Wild. (USATSI)

Thanks to their 2-0 win over the San Jose Sharks on Saturday afternoon the Minnesota Wild continued their quest to not only end a four-year playoff drought, but perhaps even win the Northwest Division title.

A lot of the credit has gone to their two big free agent signings over the summer, Zach Parise and Ryan Suter. And for good reason. Both have been great additions and are having the type of seasons that were expected when they signed their 13-year contracts back in July.

But even with the additions of the two best free agents on the market the Wild, a team that was among the worst in the NHL last season, still needed more (a lot more) if it wanted to get back to the playoffs for the first time since the 2007-08 season. And that's where a guy like Jonas Brodin comes in, the 19-year-old defenseman that's spent most of the season playing as Suter's partner on Minnesota's top defensive pairing.

...article continued via provided link up top.
Spurgon's so small on that chart I can't even see him. Par for the course I'd say.

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has it ever happened where a d pairing won the norris and calder?
That's a pretty good question. Not sure. I can't find anything online that says yes/no. Might be something to tweet Russo about. I'm sure he could come up with that answer.

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has it ever happened where a d pairing won the norris and calder?
No. There hasn't even been an instance where both trophies went to defenseman on the same team. The Wild potentially could be the first to accomplish this feat.


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RE: Brodin and Calder...

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@a_schmidt28 right now I will vote him No. 1. Not sure I have faith in my compatriots, who typically look at stats
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You would think that NHL writers would look beyond stat lines, since after all, they are considered the professionals.

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You would think that NHL writers would look beyond stat lines, since after all, they are considered the professionals.
See Russo's opinion of Spurgeon and then realize that alot of these "Professionals" dont really know all that much about hockey.

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Spurgon's so small on that chart I can't even see him. Par for the course I'd say.
He is bigger on the chart then on the ice. Its really scary when you look at Brodin and how good he really is. It would be one thing if he's shutting down 3rd lines, but he's going up against the best, Yeo can just throw him out there and not worry.

Loving this pick even more then I did, I think we owe Todd Richards a letter of thanks for his role in securing that pick.

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Well the big thing working in Brodin's favor for the Calder is that it's a pretty weak rookie class. The guys you expected to run away with it (Yakupov, Tarasenko, Granlund) did not do well as hoped and the guys leading the pack (especially Conacher and Gallagher) are kind of out of nowhere. And the biggest name high up on the points chart is Huberdeau, but his team's awful play might hurt him.

On the down side, unless he starts picking up points, he's going to be well behind Justin Schultz for defensemen in points and they aren't far apart in ice time either. I think it's clear to anyone who watches that Brodin is the better all around defenseman and of course is three years younger (!!!)...but still working against him.

Great to see him get props though.

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See Russo's opinion of Spurgeon and then realize that alot of these "Professionals" dont really know all that much about hockey.
Yeah, well, that's just like your opinion, man. Spurgeon is exactly the offensive D-man we need. Oh, a 5'1" offensive D-man isn't a defensive stalwart who strikes fear into the hearts of the opposing forwards?

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I'd say Huberdeau is the leader for Calder at this point. I'm not sure if team success will come into the discussion.

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Yeah, well, that's just like your opinion, man. Spurgeon is exactly the offensive D-man we need. Oh, a 5'1" offensive D-man isn't a defensive stalwart who strikes fear into the hearts of the opposing forwards? Tell me something new, genius.
I dont really have a problem with Spurge, other than the fact that he seems to have taken a step back this year.

Having said that, anybody who thinks that Spurgeon has been this teams 3rd best Dman this year, needs to have is "hockey IQ" checked.

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I dont really have a problem with Spurge, other than the fact that he seems to have taken a step back this year.

Having said that, anybody who thinks that Spurgeon has been this teams 3rd best Dman this year, needs to have is "hockey IQ" checked.
And for the record, I think he has definitely looked like a top-3 D-man in our team at times.


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I dont really have a problem with Spurge, other than the fact that he seems to have taken a step back this year.

Having said that, anybody who thinks that Spurgeon has been this teams 3rd best Dman this year, needs to have is "hockey IQ" checked.
I don't think Spurgeon took a step back - I think the team's defense took a huge step forward which is bumping him down the depth chart.

He was a little streaky towards the beginning of the season, but who wasn't?

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How about running your test through a spell check next time before posting? You just made yourself look like an idiot.

And for the record, I think he has definitely looked like a top-3 D-man in our team at times.
Spurgeon has definitely had his moments, especially on the PP, I just cant agree with anybody who thinks he has been this teams 3rd best Dman this year.


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I don't think Spurgeon took a step back - I think the team's defense took a huge step forward which is bumping him down the depth chart.

He was a little streaky towards the beginning of the season, but who wasn't?
Answering my own question: Brodin.

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See Russo's opinion of Spurgeon and then realize that alot of these "Professionals" dont really know all that much about hockey.
There GMs who don't know a lot about hockey.

Professional sports, in general, are completely isolated and controlled market. Infinite competition if you are on the outside, almost none once you are in the inside. That means smarts doesn't get rewarded and stupidity punished as much as they would in other industries. If you are a terrible coach, terrible manager, you'll get another job somewhere, maybe in a slightly lower league, and you just have to wait your turn again for the "call-up".

Unless you were a decent enough player to make it far enough to make connections in the business, you are outside of that industry. And there are a lot of people who were crappy players, but still have a good mind for the game, that would make excellent coaches or managers, but they will never get a chance.

While the Riser's of the hockey world will keep on keeping on.

There is a similiar problem with the hockey media, which have very limited jobs and people protect them the best they can once they have them.

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There GMs who don't know a lot about hockey.

Professional sports, in general, are completely isolated and controlled market. Infinite competition if you are on the outside, almost none once you are in the inside. That means smarts doesn't get rewarded and stupidity punished as much as they would in other industries. If you are a terrible coach, terrible manager, you'll get another job somewhere, maybe in a slightly lower league, and you just have to wait your turn again for the "call-up".

Unless you were a decent enough player to make it far enough to make connections in the business, you are outside of that industry. And there are a lot of people who were crappy players, but still have a good mind for the game, that would make excellent coaches or managers, but they will never get a chance.

While the Riser's of the hockey world will keep on keeping on.

There is a similiar problem with the hockey media, which have very limited jobs and people protect them the best they can once they have them.
Agree and Disagree...I agree that good players have an easier time getting the jobs, but that doesn't mean they keep them (ie Gretzky).

Some of the best coaches were so-called "crappy" players or guys who haven't played at all. The most obvious one that comes to mind is Scotty Bowman. Barry Trotz as well. Ken Hitchcock has never even played the game.

I think the best coaches are the guys who were the 3rd and 4th line grinders in their playing days...Nothing ever came easy for these guys and they really had to bust their tail and "learn" how to play the game.

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