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02-01-2013, 11:00 PM
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Is Joe Thornton the most underrated current NHL player career wise?

I was just looking through his stats and they are pretty amazing.

He has played 1,084 games and has 1,092 points.

Career wise he sits #57 overall on the all time points list.

Only Jagr and Selanne are currently playing in the NHL and have more points than he does.

His rookie year at the age of 18 he only had 7 points in 55 games. Followed that season up with 41 points in 81 games. They lower his PPG numbers significantly and he is still over PPG in his career.

His career PPG is 1.007.

He is only 34 years old and could have numerous playing years left.

He is only 61 points away from getting into the top fifty players for career points.

Currently he is this many points away from passing these players:
Glenn Anderson 7
Frank Mahovolich 11
Darryl Sittler 29
Joe Niewendyk 34
Mike Bossy 34
Bernie Federko 38
Niklas Lidstrom 50
Michel Goulet 50

All of those players could be potentially passed this year.

Currently #37 all time on the assists list.


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02-01-2013, 11:01 PM
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02-01-2013, 11:01 PM
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He needs to win a Stanley Cup, or else he will never get the recognition that his statistics deserve.

He is like Yzerman, pre-1997, right now.

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Nobody disputes his stats, but he won't be known for any more than a stat guy, unless he can get a cup. That's the only difference in perception between him and Jagr/Selanne

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Disappears in playoffs, diver, whiner, choker, cheap shot artist, etc.

Just doing everyone a favor and getting those out of the way early.

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Ray Whitney is I think.

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Thornton played his first 2 seasons on the 3rd and 4th lines so yes that does hurt his career ppg.

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Nobody disputes his stats, but he won't be known for any more than a stat guy, unless he can get a cup. That's the only difference in perception between him and Jagr/Selanne
He will be known for one of the best players of his era not a stat guy.

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You'd be hard pressed to find a guy who has more pure love of the game than Joe Thornton.

In all honesty if I'm picking a team from scratch, he's number one....and he's not even my favorite player.

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Nobody disputes his stats, but he won't be known for any more than a stat guy, unless he can get a cup. That's the only difference in perception between him and Jagr/Selanne
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Thornton played his first 2 seasons on the 3rd and 4th lines so yes that does hurt his career ppg.
He had 7 points in 55 games, playing very limited minutes as an 18-year-old.

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You'd be hard pressed to find a guy who has more pure love of the game than Joe Thornton.

In all honesty if I'm picking a team from scratch, he's number one....and he's not even my favorite player.
Number 1 currently? You would take Thornton ahead of Crosby or Malkin?

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He's a hall of famer regardless of what he does between now and the end of his career. He's a hall of famer regardless of what criticisms people may have of him. He may be underrated currently but, in the end, only two things matter for a player of his great talent. Cups and the Hall of Fame. He's got the latter locked.

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The stats are not disputable, but I can't reconcile your stance with the fact that Mike O'Connell saw more value in a then-sophomore Patrice Bergeron than Joe Thornton.


As for who I would consider underrated career-wise among current NHLers, I will say that Ray Whitney (473 points in 536 games since 2005) is the most underrated NHL player, and he turns 41 in May.


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No player in the NHL, save for maybe Crosby, can come even close to Thornton's playmaking skill. The guy makes the neatest passes I've ever seen.

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Number 1 currently? You would take Thornton ahead of Crosby or Malkin?
He never mentioend Crosby or Malkin.

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He's a locked HOF. 100% sure. Probably the best pure passer after Adam Oates (excepted the exceptions like Gretzky, Lemieux).

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he's actually good defensively too

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The stats are not disputable, but I can't reconcile your stance with the fact that Mike O'Connell saw more value in a then-sophomore Patrice Bergeron than Joe Thornton
He didnt.

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Why would he be underrated, the man is a crap playoff performer. Shows absolutely no heart or determination on the ice. I'd probably rate him amongst some of the worst centers in the NHL.

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No player in the NHL, save for maybe Crosby, can come even close to Thornton's playmaking skill. The guy makes the neatest passes I've ever seen.
You misspelled "Datsyuk"

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he's actually good defensively too
He didn't used to be. He's become a much better overall player than he used to be. He'll never get the recognition, but I hold him near the same regard I do Datsyuk. He controls a game like no other and just seems so fluid and dynamic with everything he does, and of course he's huge. He's had a truly remarkable career and it's a shame it can be so easily tarnished by all the labels everyone loves to throw his way.

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No player in the NHL, save for maybe Crosby, can come even close to Thornton's playmaking skill. The guy makes the neatest passes I've ever seen.
Well actually ... NVM. I guess this is a feel good thread for Sharks fans. Thornton is indeed one of the most elite passers in the league. It kind of sucks because playmakers will never acheive the level of fame goal scorers like OV will.

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