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02-02-2013, 10:15 AM
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I would say that rehab would help you!

Kessel isn't worth Price OR Patches
An argument can be made about Price, but Pacioretty? Come on. Kessel is worth Patches +

A 4 season 30g scorer > 1 season 30g scorer any day of the week.
I'm sure Patches has all those intagibles for you, but Kessel is just far more dynamically skilled than Pacioretty is

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02-02-2013, 10:16 AM
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I would say that Kessel is worth at least Price, Pacioretty and a late 1st / early 2nd.
I am lost for words with this one.

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02-02-2013, 10:27 AM
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habs would never trade Galchenyuk for Kessel.NEVER

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02-02-2013, 10:39 AM
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habs would never trade Galchenyuk for Kessel.NEVER
Apparently not even Subban or Pacioretty.

That makes it /thread.

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02-02-2013, 10:51 AM
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The only way Kessel is traded if its an over-payment or the young roster player/prospect (forward/center) coming back is equally good as Kessel. You don't trade a elite sniper, consistent 30+ goal scorer for scraps especially not after the price Leafs paid to get Kessel.

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02-02-2013, 10:52 AM
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Absolutely terrible

Subban +
Galchenyuk +
Or
Price straight up.

Won't happen else wise.
Thanks for this. I needed the laugh.

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02-02-2013, 10:54 AM
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The only way Kessel is traded if its an over-payment or the young roster player/prospect (forward/center) coming back is equally good as Kessel. You don't trade a elite sniper, consistent 30+ goal scorer for scraps especially not after the price Leafs paid to get Kessel.
Not until he refuses to talk about a contract extension...

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02-02-2013, 10:55 AM
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Thanks for this. I needed the laugh.
He was 2 for 3, not bad considering

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02-02-2013, 10:58 AM
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I suggest you wait for Brian Burke to land on his feet in another GM position. He's the only one who thinks Kessel helps you win the cup.

In my eyes he's one of those players that will have great stats but I don't want him anywhere near my team. There's a reason Boston traded him.

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02-02-2013, 11:14 AM
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Not until he refuses to talk about a contract extension...
Which they can"t do until July 2013....see you then.

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I suggest you wait for Brian Burke to land on his feet in another GM position. He's the only one who thinks Kessel helps you win the cup.

In my eyes he's one of those players that will have great stats but I don't want him anywhere near my team. There's a reason Boston traded him.
Yeah they didn't have enough cap. Wow that was easy. Derp.

This thread is a joke. Kessel is the most pointlessly crapped on player on this board. "He has a loser aura" "hurr durr you don't win games with Kessel" "Kessel will never be a go-to guy on a championship team." Do you guys realize how utterly retarded and nonsensical you sound? "Not a winner." What does that even mean? Can you quantify winning-ness? Throw that on the heap of ridiculous terms like "poise," "clutch," and "team X just wants it more."

27 of his 37 goals were scored when Toronto was tied or trailing last year, versus 10 when they were up, with only one ENG. Oh right but he's not a winner and doesn't show up when the game is on the line. Give me a ****ing break. Whatever fits your narrative.

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02-02-2013, 11:27 AM
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Don't even know why are people even thinking of trading Kessel, He hasn't asked for a trade or publicly said that he's unhappy in Toronto, besides Leafs have enough time to work out a contract extension with Phil which will most likely happen in the summer.

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02-02-2013, 11:32 AM
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What? Kessel is a top tier winger. He won't be traded to the Canadiens. And if he were, it wouldn't be for that mediocre package.

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02-02-2013, 11:34 AM
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This trade cannot happen as simple as that.

If kessel ends up with the habs one day it will be as a UFA.

Oh and lol at Price Paciorretty 1st that's the kind of offer that could lend 95% of the players in the league maybe more.

Top 10 goalie not even in his prime 30 goals power forward plus 1st. That's a lot more valuable than a 30-40 goals sniper.

I like Kessel but a trade for him cannot happen.

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02-02-2013, 12:22 PM
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Kessel


for


Gionta
Beaulieu
1st in 2013
Counter offer

Pacioretty

for

Macarthur
Percy
1st in 2013

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02-02-2013, 12:38 PM
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Counter offer

Pacioretty

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Macarthur
Percy
1st in 2013
I'd pass on that too. Maybe Macarthur, Blacker and a 2nd(if generous)/3rd but not a first.

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02-02-2013, 01:00 PM
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i wouldn't do it as a Hab fan - because that first scares me, and I still believe Beaulieu will be something special

That being said, the value is there so long as it's not a top3-5 pick.

I like Kessel and he's better than Pacioretty right now, but from habs pov that's not the point. Kessel would do well with a galchenyuk or Plekanecs but he's not very big and he pays soft. Habs have enough small wingers with gionta and Gallagher and two small centers in pleks and desharnais. so he wouldn't fit into what habs are trying to do in top 6 - unless we were able to unload a Gio or desharnais.

he's very good but needs a strong winger or center to dig out the pucks and feed him off the rush or on the cycle

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02-02-2013, 05:33 PM
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Why do the Leafs need another defensive prospect? And why would we want to take Gionta off your hands, at the expense of Kessel, no less? Start with Galchenyuk and a first, and then let's see where that goes. Probably not far. But that would be where the discussion would head from a Leafs perspective if you are fishing for Kessel.
I agree that this proposal is going nowhere, but I actually think adding Gionta (not at the expense of Kessel obviously) would really benefit the Leafs.

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02-02-2013, 05:37 PM
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Thanks for this. I needed the laugh.
It's not laughable, and I'm a Habs fan.

Why else would the Leafs trade him to the Habs? I agree that none of those would fly from a Habs perspective, but nothing else would fly from a Leafs perspective either.

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02-02-2013, 06:00 PM
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All things considered, I'm pretty confident that Kessel has more value than Galchenyuk or Subban. He wouldn't be worth significantly more, I'm thinkin a mid-level player or prospect, or maybe a 2nd or 3rd round pick.

Price, on the other hand, for sure is worth more than Kessel.
Subban or Galchenyuk>> 1.5 years of Kessel.

Not a chance Kessel has that kind of value until he is extended and for a reasonable amount....

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02-02-2013, 06:05 PM
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Absolutely no interest in Kessel. He's streaky, soft and a bit of a loaner. I just don't see him as a fit. He'll probably break the bank when he re-signs and will probably end up a cap burden. I'd rather he remains a Leaf. Love watching Subban abuse him and easily shut him down.

I can understand why Leaf fans would want to trade him!

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02-02-2013, 07:24 PM
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Habs dont want the softest player in the league

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Great deal for the leafs IMO. Kessel would look sickk beside Gally.

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02-02-2013, 08:17 PM
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No trade would make sense from these teams, but a Gallagher/Galchenyuk/Kessel line would be beautiful to watch.

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i wouldn't do it as a Hab fan - because that first scares me, and I still believe Beaulieu will be something special

That being said, the value is there so long as it's not a top3-5 pick.

I like Kessel and he's better than Pacioretty right now, but from habs pov that's not the point. Kessel would do well with a galchenyuk or Plekanecs but he's not very big and he pays soft. Habs have enough small wingers with gionta and Gallagher and two small centers in pleks and desharnais. so he wouldn't fit into what habs are trying to do in top 6 - unless we were able to unload a Gio or desharnais.

he's very good but needs a strong winger or center to dig out the pucks and feed him off the rush or on the cycle
Kessel would do well with Desharnais.

Maybe Desharnais + Thrower

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Kulemin + Finn

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