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Panthers attract big crowds, despite rough start

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01-28-2013, 10:53 PM
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Panthers attract big crowds, despite rough start

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The Florida Panthers have had two sellout games and the team is seeing an average of 18,211 fans per home game, according to Sunrise Sports & Entertainment.

http://www.bizjournals.com/southflor...s-despite.html

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Posted this earlier, but by capacity%, they are 2nd in the league.
http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance/_/sort/homePct

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Good for them, though we'll be seeing the usual "herp, ticket prices" post in 3...2...1...

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Fill the seats and ticket prices will come.

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Good for them, though we'll be seeing the usual "herp, ticket prices" post in 3...2...1...
Because it's the reason. Have you seen their deals???? I'd bet that 7-8k for the Habs gets more money than 18k for Panths.

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Because it's the reason. Have you seen their deals???? I'd bet that 7-8k for the Habs gets more money than 18k for Panths.
because comparing a growing (and note of it, it's GROWING) market to one with 100+ years of established history/tradition with ZERO competition locally is a smart business proposition.

http://business.time.com/2013/01/14/...are-1-or-free/

the cheapest ticket at BB&T center is $16.50 according to ticketmaster.

guess half the nba teams should fold/move, too huh?

learn about how sports business works, then maybe you could join discussions like this one. MOD


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because comparing a growing (and note of it, it's GROWING) market to one with 100+ years of established history/tradition with ZERO competition locally is a smart business proposition.

http://business.time.com/2013/01/14/...are-1-or-free/

the cheapest ticket at BB&T center is $16.50 according to ticketmaster.

guess half the nba teams should fold/move, too huh?

learn about how sports business works, then maybe you could join discussions like this one. MOD
Wtf am i reading??? I was responding to a guy that said "herp, ticket prices" and you are pitching me all this ********? . I'm not denying that it's great for the Panthers and infact it's good marketing. So stop being so [mod]


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Very impressive start.

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I remember the crowds for the second half of the 11-12 season were quite strong. Glad to see the positive momentum is continuing.

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Wtf am i reading??? I was responding to a guy that said "herp, ticket prices" and you are pitching me all this ********? . I'm not denying that it's great for the Panthers and infact it's good marketing. So stop being so [mod]
you said "it's the reason" for their improved crowd, when it isn't.

the reason for the improvement is pretty damn simple. the panthers, for the first time in TEN SEASONS, made the postseason. THAT'S the reason. they put a good team on the ice, and fans are showing up. two of the three games they have played have been played well over capacity (19,250)

comparing them to a team like montreal is completely laughable and pointless. get off your high horse.

more teams than not have low ticket prices with the economy the way it is, so trying to negate the positive momentum the panthers have created by citing their low prices is idiotic. for those wondering, the give-aways the panthers used to be well known for are a thing of the distant past. they don't even give ticket vouchers to season ticket holders anymore (which were the last give-aways they were offering) and haven't for the last two years. (source: i'm a full season ticket holder). so the numbers you see are numbers earned.

all this being said, this momentum with the fans is going to hit a huge, fat brick wall if their putrid play continues, because we've been an ungodly disgrace so far this season. i can't even put into words how bad this team has been so far this year. it'd be a damn shame if they can't capitalize on what they did last season.


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good for Sunrise and good for the NHL

how much are lower bowl tickets?

here in Vancouver i paid ticketmaster $337 each for the CHI game and $244 each for the SJ game...it might be cheaper for me to drive to Cali and watch some games there

vs Blackhawks
Full Price Ticket
Section 104, Row 18, Seats 1 - 2*
Seating Chart (opens in a new window)
CA $337.00 x2
CA $674.00
Tickets / Items Total CA $674.00

vs Sharks
Section 104, Row 3, Seats 107 - 108*
Seating Chart (opens in a new window)
CA $244.00 x2
CA $488.00
Tickets / Items Total CA $488.00


funny how hawks game are worth more then sharks games...i wanted to see the kings(love carter/richards) and tickets were $408 each for sec 118 each...screw that

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good for Sunrise and good for the NHL

how much are lower bowl tickets?

here in Vancouver i paid ticketmaster $337 each for the CHI game and $244 each for the SJ game...it might be cheaper for me to drive to Cali and watch some games there

vs Blackhawks
Full Price Ticket
Section 104, Row 18, Seats 1 - 2*
Seating Chart (opens in a new window)
CA $337.00 x2
CA $674.00
Tickets / Items Total CA $674.00

vs Sharks
Section 104, Row 3, Seats 107 - 108*
Seating Chart (opens in a new window)
CA $244.00 x2
CA $488.00
Tickets / Items Total CA $488.00


funny how hawks game are worth more then sharks games...i wanted to see the kings(love carter/richards) and tickets were $408 each for sec 118 each...screw that
if cheaper prices get people in the seats, that's all that matters, getting concession, parking, and merchandise money is as important, if not moreso, you just need to get them in the arena

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Good for Panthers. Making playoffs last year was big for them.

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Do the Panthers still curtain off their top level?

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So I won't be able to buy $9 tickets like I did last year when I went down there last year? Noooooo!!

Good on them, hopefully they can keep it up.
Any news on there TV ratings or even how much they are being talked about in local news?

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Do the Panthers still curtain off their top level?
(Not intended to be a jab) Apparently not

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So I won't be able to buy $9 tickets like I did last year when I went down there last year? Noooooo!!
No, they are still quite cheap...
http://panthers.nhl.com/

TERRACE LEVEL SEATING
US $9.00
US $9.00 Ticket + US $7.50 Fees =
US $16.50

Plenty available and operators are standing by to take your order.

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(Not intended to be a jab) Apparently not

http://twitpic.com/bxz4eb
well, the ESPN percentage number seems to indicate 'official capacity' is ~17000, and it was 19,250 before the renovations. Did they really remove 2,250 seats?

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going back in the espn reports, it seems
2013 capacity: 17030
2011-12 capacity: 18,720
2010-11 capacity: 19,245


does anyone have details on exactly how many seats were removed in the renovations?


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People likely bought tickets thinking that perhaps the Panthers would continue their competitive play from last Season, but so far the Panthers have let them down. But it just goes to show though, that in certain places it's just a matter of entertaining the fans by being competitive, and the fans will come. Let's see how long it lasts if the Panthers continue to flounder again as the Season rolls along.

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My understanding Danishh is they were not removed but rather previously tarped off... thus reducing the number of available seats when tarped.

Also, there may have been some actual seat reductions towards the lower levels with Loge's and the addition of Club Red this past offseason. Someone, perhaps flapanthersfan, jol, or PantherHockey1 could better provide details on that.

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No, they are still quite cheap...
http://panthers.nhl.com/

TERRACE LEVEL SEATING
US $9.00
US $9.00 Ticket + US $7.50 Fees =
US $16.50

Plenty available and operators are standing by to take your order.
I paid $9, no fees from a mall within 5 minute walk of the building.
They had a kiosk set up, we were just killing time and ended up buying tickets.
Cheaper than lunch in a foot court.

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How does their arena compare to American Airlines Arena? Can a hockey rink fit inside AAA?

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It looked pretty empty to me last week against the Senators, but I might be wrong!

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Just goes to show, again, that winning is the most important ingredient at the highest of professional levels. Fan experience and loyalty can be improved over time as fans continue to support the team.

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It looked pretty empty to me last week against the Senators, but I might be wrong!
nhl reported it as 15,634, which seems about right. Maybe a bit high from what i saw, but close enough.

carolina game (home opener) was 19,688
philly game was 19,311


btw, this means they're still tarping (didnt notice in the ottawa game, but i wasnt looking for it and the cameras dont go there much. ESPN is using their tarped capacity as 100%, which is blatant attendance number juicing.

that's not to say that 18211 average isnt impressive, because it is, but the 106% is ********, and you have to consider that the two games that they did draw well were saturday nights, including the home opener.

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