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02-03-2013, 04:12 PM
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02-03-2013, 04:17 PM
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So everyones plan revolves around the hope/wish/prayer that a Miracle UFA will join the team and rescue us from all our problems.

Sounds fool proof!


I guess its an improvement over trading 1sts/Top Prospects for Temporary Help ... but C'mon.

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I would guess Weiss will be moved soon...

Edit: Looks like it was posted; oh well... here it is again
Weiss is hurt, its pretty doubtful he is the one being scouted.

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So everyones plan revolves around the hope/wish/prayer that a Miracle UFA will join the team and rescue us from all our problems.

Sounds fool proof!


I guess its an improvement over trading 1sts/Top Prospects for Temporary Help ... but C'mon.
You have a better and realistic solution?

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02-03-2013, 04:23 PM
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Weiss is hurt, its pretty doubtful he is the one being scouted.
He's playing.

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So everyones plan revolves around the hope/wish/prayer that a Miracle UFA will join the team and rescue us from all our problems.

Sounds fool proof!


I guess its an improvement over trading 1sts/Top Prospects for Temporary Help ... but C'mon.
No the plan is to IMPROVE THE TEAM. Which signing specific UFAs would do. What's your plan? Sucking every year until we get as lucky as Pittsburgh? Yea, that's a much better alternative.

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He's playing.
Well I guess that means he was hurt.......

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No the plan is to IMPROVE THE TEAM. Which signing specific UFAs would do. What's your plan? Sucking every year until we get as lucky as Pittsburgh? Yea, that's a much better alternative.
Exactly.
A full tear down and rebuild doesn't seem like an option. Even if we wanted them to do it the team doesn't seem willing. And once you accept that it isnt gonna happen at this point looking at the UFAs that might be willing to come here only makes sense.

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02-03-2013, 05:11 PM
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Weiss would be an enormous upgrade over Bozak.

If available at a very fair price I'd be interested in him.

Much prefer ROR though.

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Van riems/kulemin for ROR? Then some prospect+ pick for neiderriter?

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02-03-2013, 05:29 PM
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we need to rebuild around, kadri,jvr, gardiner, rielly, riemer and lupul as the leader
kessel, phaneuf, have fetch us some young top prospects, 22 years old or younger.
than try and sign one of perry or getzlaf.
i'm sure lupul has already talked to them.

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02-03-2013, 05:53 PM
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I hope Nonis can sign Getzlaf in the offseason

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02-03-2013, 05:54 PM
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Van riems/kulemin for ROR? Then some prospect+ pick for neiderriter?
We cry for years about not having size in the lineup and you want to trade the two closest things to powerforwards we have?

Bravo.

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02-03-2013, 06:03 PM
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i can see colo trading stastny and using the money saved to sign o'reilly

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02-03-2013, 06:46 PM
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The one player who interests me that everyone has forgotten about is Derek Roy.

He could be a great buy low candidate as I don't think he'll try to only do a 1 or 2 year deal and come in at less then Weiss. Probably somewhere in the 4 to 5 million range.

He isn't the ideal 1st line center with size but he could end up being the best bang for buck free agent that signs somewhere this summer. And the downside is he is only here short term and can be traded/waived.

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02-03-2013, 06:57 PM
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So everyones plan revolves around the hope/wish/prayer that a Miracle UFA will join the team and rescue us from all our problems.

Sounds fool proof!


I guess its an improvement over trading 1sts/Top Prospects for Temporary Help ... but C'mon.
Because no UFA's will want to sign in Toronto, right?

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02-03-2013, 06:58 PM
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Weiss would be an enormous upgrade over Bozak.

If available at a very fair price I'd be interested in him.

Much prefer ROR though.
But who is he going to take minutes from? Kadr and Grabs need to play?

Weiss is a #2 centre. He is not the answer.

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02-03-2013, 07:19 PM
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But who is he going to take minutes from? Kadr and Grabs need to play?

Weiss is a #2 centre. He is not the answer.
Same as any other team that has 3 quality options at center like LA, Boston and Pittsburgh.

Whoever is our 4th line center can loss minutes which would be McClement but luckily for him he also does well on the wing.

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02-03-2013, 07:24 PM
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So everyones plan revolves around the hope/wish/prayer that a Miracle UFA will join the team and rescue us from all our problems.

Sounds fool proof!


I guess its an improvement over trading 1sts/Top Prospects for Temporary Help ... but C'mon.
Out of the 3 options of drafting, signing or trading for one it is the most realistic to have a player who can make an impact in the next season or two.

Even if we draft first overall which is unlikely even a guy like Mackinnon probably wouldn't be ready for even 2nd line minutes next season.

Trading for a 1st line center would involve giving packaging our top young assets like Gardiner, Reilly, 1st round picks, Kadri which doesn't seem appealing as we're not at the point where our cupboards are bursting with top prospects/young players yet. Although we've got the potential to not be that far off.

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02-03-2013, 08:49 PM
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is cammalleri worth a chance?
if calgary paid for part of his salary)

this is how we got lupul
an overpaid cash dump at the time

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02-04-2013, 01:06 AM
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Isn't Getzlaf's wife from Anaheim and isn't it his preferred choice?

Sounds like we will have more chance at Perry and man do we need Getzlaf but someone I don't see it.

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02-04-2013, 01:26 AM
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Out of the 3 options of drafting, signing or trading for one it is the most realistic to have a player who can make an impact in the next season or two.

Even if we draft first overall which is unlikely even a guy like Mackinnon probably wouldn't be ready for even 2nd line minutes next season.

Trading for a 1st line center would involve giving packaging our top young assets like Gardiner, Reilly, 1st round picks, Kadri which doesn't seem appealing as we're not at the point where our cupboards are bursting with top prospects/young players yet. Although we've got the potential to not be that far off.
I'd be ok with Draftng that coveted 1C - giving him 2 years to develop. Were not winning a stanley cup next year lets not kid ourselves.

We have problems throughout the roster that far exceed a 1C - If we traded for a !C we'd still have questionable Defence + Questionable D-Core. And chances are we'd have lost whatever Secondary Scoring we've been able to muster up - I don't even want to think about the potential draft picks involved in Trading for a 1C - what 1C's would ever be available anyway?

Regardless The days of Trading Kadri/Frattin/Gardner/Reilly/1sts are over. That was the last 15 years. Look where we are?

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02-04-2013, 01:30 AM
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Isn't Getzlaf's wife from Anaheim and isn't it his preferred choice?

Sounds like we will have more chance at Perry and man do we need Getzlaf but someone I don't see it.
hasnt been much of a story too it yet, but from the few things I've read, Getzlaf wants to stay because of his family, Perry is thinking about coming to Canada to be closer to home.(He's from around Toronto).

However you'd think they'd go together, but really i doubt they both get to free agency, at least one will be traded or resigned, it's just franchise suicide.

Losing Schultz, Getz and Perry for NOTHING is a disaster.

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he may be traded sure but that's no barring on if they will go to free agency or not.

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You have a better and realistic solution?
It's called drafting. Do it often and do it well.

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