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02-02-2013, 07:14 PM
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Rank our defensemen so far

Considering how poorly almost all of them have played, rank our defensemen (all nine) from best to worst overall at this point early into the season. Where does everyone fall currently? For me:

Best

1. Christian Ehrhoff
2. Robyn Regehr
3. Andrej Sekera
4. Alexander Sulzer
5. Mike Weber
6. Tyler Myers
7. Jordan Leopold
8. T.J. Brennan (I know, small sample size but work with me. He's likely the least best on the roster currently.)

Worst

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1. Christian Ehrhoff
2. Andrej Sekera
3. Mike Weber
4. Alexander Sulzer
5. Robyn Regehr
6. Jordan Leopold
7. Tyler Myers

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02-02-2013, 07:24 PM
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Here is Lindy's rankings based on ice time.

1. Christian Ehrhoff
2. Jordan Leopold
3. Tyler Myers
4. Mike Weber
5. Andrej Sekera
6. Robyn Regehr
7. Alexander Sulzer - Also a healthy scratch one game

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02-02-2013, 07:29 PM
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1. Christian Ehrhoff





2. Andrej Sekera
3. Alexander Sulzer
4. Robyn Regehr
5. Mike Weber
6. Jordan Leopold
7. Tyler Myers

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02-02-2013, 07:35 PM
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This is easier said than done imo, due to the small sample size of games by the team in general and Regehr and Weber in specific, but I'll give it a stab:

1.) Ehrhoff
2.) Sekera
3.) Regehr
4.) Weber
5.) Sulzer
6.) Myers
7.) Leopold
8.) Brennan

Ehrhoff continues to be very solid. That guy can handle as many minutes as you give him. He might not give you elite performance in those minutes but he will eat them up and do a good job.

Sekera is #2 more because no one else really stands out. He's had bad shifts. Could easily switch Regehr and Sekera, considering Regehr-Myers was a drastically better (though still underwhelming) pairing. Regehr's a great PK defenseman and the team clearly misses him, even if I have my reservations about him being a big minutes ES defenseman at this point (still better than Leopold).

Sulzer has done a solid job while paired with Ehrhoff but it's important not to confuse that with him having great performances. That's why he's not higher. The team's defense would be stronger if Ehrhoff's partner were a more legitimate top 4 guy, but they work together to form what's been our best pair on the whole of the season. Weber's simply looked stronger in a more limited amount of games and has rekindled his chemistry with Sekera.

Brennan simply hasn't had an opportunity to show anything one way or another and didn't play very well in his single game. Leopold is playing way more than he should be, something that has happened consistently under Ruff, though last season injuries had a lot to do with it and overall weak D the year before.

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02-02-2013, 07:38 PM
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Ehrhoff, Sekera, and Weber have met or exceeded expectations

Sulzer has been up and down as expected

Leo has been awful trash as expected

Regehr has fully regressed to pylon

Brennan is a waste of cap space

Tyler Myers career is careening way off the path

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if weber keeps it up he can stay on my team all day everyday...only one blocking shots on purpose it seems. Takes the body while Myers, Leo, Christian, sekera all play the stick...hes been a breath of fresh air

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can we get some Adam Pardy up in here already...

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1. Ehrhoff
2. Sulzer
3. Sekera
4. Weber
5. Regehr
6. a) Leopold b) Myers

Our D situation is pretty bad right now... McNabb's sudden regression even hurts our pool of D prospects. Free agent options after this season aren't great either.

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can we get some Adam Pardy up in here already...
Would love to replace Leopold in the line-up with Pardy but it's never going to happen. Now's the time to do it with Regehr on IR and Sekera possibly missing the next game.

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Ehrhoff

Sekera
Sulzer
Weber



Regehr

Myers



Leopold

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can we get some Adam Pardy up in here already...
Pardy has looked good in the AHL. I'd like to see this if they could make room.

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Ehrhoff
Sekera
Weber
Regehr
Sulzer






Myers


Leopold

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Ehrhoff




Sekera
Regehr
Weber
Sulzer








Myers













Leopold








Brennan

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I don't think Sekera's been as good as he was past year. He's only behind Stafford and Myers for giveaways this season with 5.

I'd say Ehrhoff is the one who has been most consistent/producing at both ends. Our 12 million dollar dman has 1 point in 8 games

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I don't think Sekera's been as good as he was past year.
You're right, IMO. He hasn't.


Yet, he's still one of our better performing Dmen this year.




Which says a LOT as to how bad our D has been

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Sabres should've done what Habs did with Subban..give him a bridge contract like 2 years or something before dishing out all that cash.

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I don't think Sekera's been as good as he was past year. He's only behind Stafford and Myers for giveaways this season with 5.

I'd say Ehrhoff is the one who has been most consistent/producing at both ends. Our 12 million dollar dman has 1 point in 8 games
I won't go as far as to say I don't care about production, but that's a very minor concern with Myers for me right now. It's his own end I'm worried about. Offensively my biggest problem with him is the nature of his giveaways in the offensive zone as some have been pretty weak. I don't mind giveaways now and then when they're the result of smart, aggressive plays that have a high payoff. One thing is that the offense does look much better when Myers, Sekera, or someone else pinches in deep, whether it results in a d-man getting points or not -- and I'd like to see it done more but smarter.

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Pardy has looked good in the AHL. I'd like to see this if they could make room.
the players have made the room for him

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Ehrhoff

Sekera
Sulzer
Weber



Regehr

Myers



Leopold
This, I can't wait for next season when Weber can take over a starting job and Leopold can be gone. There's nobody to step up and make it better but who cares...I like Mike Weber.

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If Myers doesn't turn it around, Regier will have MAJOR offseason moves to make to defense.

1) Myers
2) Erhroff
3) Sekera
4) Weber

Only four guys under contract next year, and one of them currently stinks. I figured Regier would resign Leopold, but Jordan has been garbage this season. He may resign Sulzer and rely on McNabb being ready (who has looked better as of late). Still, that's a blueline that NEEDS a premier defenseman. Not a great UFA market for them either.

It's bad when you go from "We need a No. 1 center" to "We need a No. 1 center and a No. 1 defenseman."

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Pardy has looked good in the AHL. I'd like to see this if they could make room.
They'd have room if they placed Kaleta on IR (Leino and Regehr are already on there).
The cap isn't an issue and re-entry waivers are now gone, so getting under the roster limit is the only issue.

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Ehrhoff is the only one that has played like he belongs on a good NHL team. Ranking the rest is an exercise in deciding who has made the least mistakes, which is a task I don't feel remotely qualified for, seeing as how brutal they have all been. Considering the train wreck on defense in Rochester relative to talent, and what is going on here relative to talent, you can't help but think that there is some deep fundamental flaw in coaching going on in this organization.

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1. Ehrhoff
2. Sekera
3. Weber
4. Regehr
5. Sulzer
6. Myers
7. Leopold
8. Brennan

Hopefully, the Sabres bring up Pardy because I think I'm going to end up having an aneurysm if I have to watch Jordan Leopold play defense much longer.

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I'll say this about Myers, he's pretty articulate and glib for a guy his age. He handled himself very well in the post-game interviews....so much so, that you really feel bad for they guy that he's struggling the way he is.

Eventually he'll work his way through these tough times and be a better player down the road. Franchise defenseman is not off the table. He just needs more time. Chara at Myer's age was not the Chara he is now. Takes time.

Also, do not discount the style of play that works best for Myers vs. the style of play he's being coached to execute.

I know it's apples and oranges, but Michael Jordan was not a standout player under Dean Smith an UNC.

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