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02-03-2013, 12:44 AM
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Clowe/Murray/2nd

No secret that the Sharks defense is stacked with guys that are good 2nd/3rd pairing defensemen, and the forward class is a little slow. This is not a fast team, we don't get by on speed, and that sometimes costs us. Murray and Clowe are 2 issues here, Murray because we already have 7 defensemen that are NHL-caliber WITHOUT him, and Clowe because we need more speedy forwards, and Clowe's production has gone downhill a bit, and he just doesn't have much chemistry with the top-6 right now. Ideally, there would be two top-6 forwards coming back, or a first line forward coming back. Thoughts?

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02-03-2013, 12:51 AM
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There is no way we get two 2nd line forwards or a first line forward.

Ideally we get a forward like Carl Hagelin for this package. But I wouldn't count on it.

Also, this thread has already been done.

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Kennedy + Tangradi + 3rd

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Murray + Clowe

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Defense would be harder to say...but Murray would be excellent depth.

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Kennedy + Tangradi + 3rd

for

Murray + Clowe

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Boychuk-Malkin-Neal
Cooke-Sutter-Duper
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Defense would be harder to say...but Murray would be excellent depth.
No thanks. I think Clowe can help us win the Cup more than Kennedy and Tangradi can. We don't really have a need anymore on the 3rd line, unless that player can score 15-20 goals.

If we do deal Murray and Clowe, I'm guessing they'll be dealt separately.

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02-03-2013, 02:58 PM
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There is no way we get two 2nd line forwards or a first line forward.

Ideally we get a forward like Carl Hagelin for this package. But I wouldn't count on it.

Also, this thread has already been done.
I wouldn't mind a couple of tweeners for that package, maybe plus a D/G prospect from the sharks end. Don't know where from, but

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No thanks. I think Clowe can help us win the Cup more than Kennedy and Tangradi can. We don't really have a need anymore on the 3rd line, unless that player can score 15-20 goals.

If we do deal Murray and Clowe, I'm guessing they'll be dealt separately.
I dunno, to be honest I would be interested to see what would happen if TK was put with Couture. For some reason I see that working...

I think TK would work better on our third line than Dupuis but you guys need a quicker winger and we need a stop gap. Give some to get some I guess.

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Kennedy + Tangradi + 3rd

for

Murray + Clowe

Kunitz-Sid-Clowe
Boychuk-Malkin-Neal
Cooke-Sutter-Duper
GVA

Defense would be harder to say...but Murray would be excellent depth.
man oh man, looks like you didn't get the joke. the Sharks aren't trading Clowe for Kennedy+

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Murray and Clowe would be perfect in Detroit. My question is would it be possible? We have plenty of fast skilled forwards. If Murray was right handed I'd overpay for it

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if colborne was brought in and they liked what he was providing I would move bozak and macarthur to the sharks.

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Kennedy + Tangradi + 3rd

for

Murray + Clowe

Kunitz-Sid-Clowe
Boychuk-Malkin-Neal
Cooke-Sutter-Duper
GVA

Defense would be harder to say...but Murray would be excellent depth.
So, you don't value Clowe at all based on this offer. He would be a very good fit in Pittsburgh. Murray, we don't need.

Kennedy is worth a fourth round pick at best; Tangradi has - value and a third round pick?

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I'd trade for Murray and Clowe in Montreal not the second round pick though.

I'd be willing to send Lars Eller and one of the Habs second round draft picks (Montreal's own).

Close?

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What about convincing Moore to come out of retirement?

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What about convincing Moore to come out of retirement?
His wife died. I don't think he's interested in playing hockey.

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I'd trade for Murray and Clowe in Montreal not the second round pick though.

I'd be willing to send Lars Eller and one of the Habs second round draft picks (Montreal's own).

Close?
So, one of your whipping boys and a second? That doesn't get you Clowe.

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Hemsky, MPS, Lander for Clowe, Murray, 2nd?

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His wife died. I don't think he's interested in playing hockey.
I'm aware his wife died which is tragic. However, he has been a hockey player his entire life and in the right situation might still want to play.

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Hemsky, MPS, Lander for Clowe, Murray, 2nd?

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Same recycled names from Edmonton fan ... Hemsky, MPV and Lander. Lander and MPS don't even get you Murray and a second.

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I'm aware his wife died which is tragic. However, he has been a hockey player his entire life and in the right situation might still want to play.
His wife died literally two weeks before the season started. I'd assume he's not playing this year.

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Hemsky, MPS, Lander for Clowe, Murray, 2nd?

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What use do we have of Lander? We don't have cap room for Hemsky.

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Don't need Gunnarson at all.

Hemsky might be a good fit, but injuries are a concern.

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So, one of your whipping boys and a second? That doesn't get you Clowe.
Okay, what else would you be looking for?

BTW Eller isn't a whipping boy, he sat a couple of games under a new coach and played great upon returning. Therrien is making everyone accountable. I know San Jose is looking for forwards, what else would it take?

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I'm aware his wife died which is tragic. However, he has been a hockey player his entire life and in the right situation might still want to play.
Maybe in the future, not this year, almost guaranteed.

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